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All main OP arc villains have gotten stronger after coming back. Smoker, Croc, Lucci. They'll just never be stronger than current Luffy. Don't let the forum's irrational hate for Luffy's opponents/anti-Zoro agenda cloud your expectations for Oda's repetitive predictable patterns.
I never said Katakuri would come back stronger then Luffy. And also the arc ended with them being on friendly-ish terms atleast respecting each other.

Karakuri has Big Moms genes so he has top tier potential and he has CoC and Awakening and Future sight.

Im just saying the base is here for him to become stronger.
 
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One Piece characters live for longer then real world characters so we shouldnt apply irl logic to them.

Like I said Akainu probably got stronger since pre skip so you can say that he is currently at his peak.
But we can already see WB youngest among old trio getting weak.

WB died at the age of 72
Ray and Garp current age is 78.

So 70 is the serious decline.
But ofc they remain near top tier...

Whereas Kaidou was oni

And for akainu I'm expecting Awakening , logia awakening to make up for that.
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It's confirmed to be a graded weapon, we just don't know it's rank
Yea that only.
We don't know the real rank.
 
But we can already see WB youngest among old trio getting weak.

WB died at the age of 72
Ray and Garp current age is 78.

So 70 is the serious decline.
But ofc they remain near top tier...

Whereas Kaidou was oni

And for akainu I'm expecting Awakening , logia awakening to make up for that.
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Yea that only.
We don't know the real rank.
2 years aren't a big gap
 
But we can already see WB youngest among old trio getting weak.

WB died at the age of 72
Ray and Garp current age is 78.

So 70 is the serious decline.
But ofc they remain near top tier...

Whereas Kaidou was oni

And for akainu I'm expecting Awakening , logia awakening to make up for that.
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Yea that only.
We don't know the real rank.
For whitebeard he got that weak because he was sick.

Rayleigh got weaker because he was rusty and didnt do much but drinking alcohol and fucking women.

Garp was also semi retired.

Im not saying age doesnt play an important part but all of them had other reasons for their decline.

And anyways like you said 70 is the number. And Katakuri is far from it lmao. So is Akainu,etc.

Aokiji is 50 something and you cant tell me hes declining.
2hp zoro vs 100hp Nusjuro

Wow zoro is so strong man :shocked:
Damn Lucci really did a number on him ☠️
 
Saturn was coughing blood when he was getting punched and then we dont see the after math when he crashes into that building. Safe to assume he was badly damaged afterwards but regenerated.

I mean unless you think Kuma and Brook have more AP then G5 Luffy in that case be my guest lol.

As for the irl punching I was refering to Saturn coming back after being Dawn Cymballed.
oda still sees all of that as 0 damage tbh
 
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For whitebeard he got that weak because he was sick
Aside from being sick , he claimed himself he has aged and Ofc he wouldn't WS forever.
Sickness was just a result of Aging.


Rayleigh got weaker because he was rusty and didnt do much but drinking alcohol and fucking women.

Garp was also semi retired.
Naah dude you're completely denying age doesn't bother them at all.


And anyways like you said 70 is the number. And Katakuri is far from it lmao. So is Akainu,etc.

Aokiji is 50 something and you cant tell me hes declining.
Yes because Akainu got Logia awakening of probably one of the strongest fruit.
What about kata? He already hit awakening and Haki ceiling.

Aokiji is already declining... you think after losing an leg and arm , you would keep growing strong?
Shanks might be an exception but he's an swordsman.
Aokiji if not throwing long ranged attacks , is a brawler.
 
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