Character Discussion Sengoku & Sakazuki - A Comparison Between The Two Fleet Admirals

God Buggy

God Buggy

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Sentinel said:
What morals? Killing off innocent pregnant women? Or ordering buster call to wipe out an entire island?

Akainu sure is an extremist of his beliefs and ideals but Sengoku sure is no saint.
That's what @SakazOuki's thread also means to demonstrate.

Yes, Akainu is more extreme but the navy did become stronger and better in his leadership, which makes Sakazuki a better leader overall.
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Minus Kuzan's Punk Hazard showings.
Yes, he is also a beast.
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Lowkey I'd almost be more interested to see a full on panel match from Aokiji then from Akainu. His fruit is amazing man. It matches the Magu, it's super lethal, it has an absolutely enormous AoE, it affects the climate etc. Facing an all out bloodlusted Aokiji is pretty much as much of a nightmare as facing Akainu.
 
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Foul Legacy

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Lee Ba Shou said:
Zoro fans think Sengoku who ordered the genocide of a generation of babies and built his reputation on not questioning the world government has morals
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Still better than Sakazuki.
I would Choose Sengoku as a leader over Akainu any time.

You all sick in mind if you believe Sakazuki is a better leader than Sengoku.

Sengoku is a better tactician. And That's a fact.
Nobody debating Powerscaling here clown.
I'm least interested in fodder Marines.

But if you're choosing sakazuki as a leader , you're indeed sick in mind.
 
Elder Lee Hung

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
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Foul Legacy said:
Still better than Sakazuki.
I would Choose Sengoku as a leader over Akainu any time.
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Is he? Sakazuki’s Navy is canonically stronger than Sengoku’s…lol

Do you mean Sengoku is more moral than Akainu? I can’t picture any more evil order to give than a baby genocide…lol

And keep in mind, the Celestial Dragons didn’t even order Sengoku to do that. Sengoku did that himself.

What has Sakazuki done that even remotely compares to the mass killing of babies?

Foul Legacy said:
Sengoku is a better tactician. And That's a fact.
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Then why is Sakazuki’s Navy stronger than Sengoku’s? This was directly attributed to Sakazuki’s leadership. Lol

Tactics don’t exist in One Piece. Oda is too much of a retard to comprehend simple tactics.
 
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Foul Legacy

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Sentinel said:
What morals? Killing off innocent pregnant women? Or ordering buster call to wipe out an entire island?

Akainu sure is an extremist of his beliefs and ideals but Sengoku sure is no saint.
That's what @SakazOuki's thread also means to demonstrate.

Yes, Akainu is more extreme but the navy did become stronger and better in his leadership, which makes Sakazuki a better leader overall
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Bruh , I never said he's an absolute saint.
I gave their leadership a score and Sengoku ain't as extreme as akainu.

Why does everything with Ya'll have to be an extreme left or right debate.

Garp would have never accompanied with anyone who was this morally low.
Sengoku used to follow WG blindly , Amd he did commited crimes but he was looking at a bigger picture here. Killing a pregnant woman ain't justified but if the child lives it will chaos all around and even more death.
Ohara crime was reading ponelglyphs , Sengoku doesn't know what they hold either , they are considered as crime and sengoku acted upon it , even he wouldn't have killed Innocents who were leaving my ships.

It's literally his character development that he was loosing trust in WG , arc after arc. He was furious to know WG covered up Impel down stuff just to protect the face. Sengoku wanted to go public with it.

Akainu follows the same extremeness as WG when it comes to saving the face.

Tell me a simple question , Morally you would choose sengoku as your leader or Sakazuki?
 
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Foul Legacy

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Lee Ba Shou said:
Is he? Sakazuki’s Navy is canonically stronger than Sengoku’s…lol

Do you mean Sengoku is more moral than Akainu? I can’t picture any more evil order to give than a baby genocide…lol

And keep in mind, the Celestial Dragons didn’t even order Sengoku to do that. Sengoku did that himself.

What has Sakazuki done that even remotely compares to the mass killing of babies?



Then why is Sakazuki’s Navy stronger than Sengoku’s? This was directly attributed to Sakazuki’s leadership. Lol

Tactics don’t exist in One Piece. Oda is too much of a retard to comprehend simple tactics.
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I just stated this ain't about power scaling.
Being stronger means a good leadership?
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Omg are all your marines fans clowns at this level?

And killing all the babies is a hoax.

They were permitted to kill only who were suspicious of it.
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Lee Ba Shou said:
Oh boy, Akainu haters are now justifying baby genocide
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Bruh I don't even care about akainu.
Omg I regretting the fact I defended admirals in other thread.
@Luffy is the mc bruh Kaidou solos all 4 admirals at once.
 
Elder Lee Hung

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
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#29
Foul Legacy said:
Being stronger means a good leadership?
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In the context of a military, and in the context of….literally everything, yes a stronger organization is indicative of superior leadership

Foul Legacy said:
They were permitted to kill only who were suspicious of it.
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Oh that changes everything. Thank god Sengoku only ordered the killing of a specific generation of babies instead of literally all babies. Now I see why you think he is morally superior to Akainu.


Foul Legacy said:
Bruh I don't even care about akainu.
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Which is why you commented this thread to begin with in spite of the fact that nobody asked for your opinion or tagged you?
 
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Dragon777

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Tbh, a different manga. Now the Gorosei turned out to be practically demons instead or machiavellian politicians.

Sengoku showed after what his morals were (and in fact why he Is a Marine, because all Marines are for Justice; different kinds, but Justice).
Akainu too showed to be much deeper in the post TS.

At Ohara there was the risk (said by the WG) that the world would have been destroyed by the Ancient Weapons, and they believed It.
 
Nidai_Kitetsu

Nidai_Kitetsu

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Lee Ba Shou said:
Then why is Akainu’s Navy stronger than Sengoku’s? And why is this attributed to Sakazuki’s leadership?
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Akainu might be a better leader in real life - in our materialistic world.
But it doesnt work like that in a Japanese fiction. There is a reason why subordinate marines supported Kuzan as the FA, not Akainu.
 
Elder Lee Hung

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
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Foul Legacy said:
A simple question.does america have the best leaders rn?
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I live in America. America is an absolute shithole. In part because yes, our leaders are dogshit.

Nidai_Kitetsu said:
Akainu might be a better leader in real life - in our materialistic world.
But it doesnt work like that in a Japanese fiction. There is a reason why subordinate marines supported Kuzan as the FA, not Akainu.
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Kuzan’s subordinates supported him, not the entirety of the Marines lol.

But again you really just ignored the question, how can Akainu be a worse leader than Sengoku if Akainu’s Navy is stronger than Sengoku’s? When Akainu arguably has weaker Admirals?
 
Nidai_Kitetsu

Nidai_Kitetsu

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Lee Ba Shou said:
Kuzan’s subordinates supported him, not the entirety of the Marines lol.
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Why didnt Akainu's subordinates support Akainu?


Lee Ba Shou said:
But again you really just ignored the question, how can Akainu be a worse leader than Sengoku if Akainu’s Navy is stronger than Sengoku’s? When Akainu arguably has weaker Admirals?
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I am not sure how they got stronger - IMO they should be weaker
 
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