[FNZ] Salem of Lies Return of the Throne (Unofficial)

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Fallen Prince

good lord
you are the one who says he isnt diplomatic not me
now you are saying his cautious .
I want you to explain why he came off as aggressive to you
why his reads were calculating
wtf?
Are you trolling ? :seriously:

I have given you the version of his play he was aggressive with me .

Do you plan to have anyother read or will this debate continue .

I have given account of him playing calculated play as well with the sus list.
 
Vote Reborn

Welcome back :cheers:
I would never spite lynch :goyea:
Well maybe on TAC :suresure:
This is a vote to make Reborn active in hunting scum
I don't like that you are taking jokes seriously. What's your alignment? :sus:

:kaidowhat:
I 'attacked' you because as far as I am concerned you took advantage of me going to bed to throw shade. It was entirely unwarranted as nothing of substance was happening when I left. Are you a contrarian for the sake of it? Any reasonable person would know people are in different timezones. Yet you continued to pus h a narrative that me leaving had any substance.
if I wanted to take advantage I would’ve tried to push for your lynch, I didn’t I just asked questions and wanted to wait till you woke up to answer them.
Most reads day 1 are not intricate investigative reports, they are built on gut feelings/ hunches and overall instinct.
That’s why they call them reads not proof.
Perhaps I had a bad taste from last game and it played into it. I am and was willing to just let you do your thing and it’s fine mate. You came out swinging, me voting you down was to let you know that I’m not gonna roll over at the first attack from anyone.

You say you’re bd? Then do your thing and Help.
 

AL sama

Red Haired
And, what makes you think holding " solid reads" to yourself would do any good to twon????


You already got reactions based on your reads so why not sharing it with town
stating them might ruin chances of seeing some changes

mind giving a somewhat detailed read on me and kiwi??
 
Are you trolling ? :seriously:

I have given you the version of his play he was aggressive with me .

Do you plan to have anyother read or will this debate continue .

I have given account of him playing calculated play as well with the sus list.
you havent given me anything mate
you dialed back and said he was cautious
safe to say your reason for jumping in was just blind defence and built off nothing substantial. you havent given a single quote of krog being aggressive in scum hunting.
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voting back is typical scum behaviour.

Try actually scum hunting instead of fluff like post liking and whether someone is online or offline.
Voting someone down because they have an inkling you may be shady is not?
I scum hunted more than most here.
Did you really read my posts or just stopped at the one I started sussing you with?
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
Beta: I think he's scum. He's trying to paint Krog and Al in the same light. Not saying they can't be buddies, but doing that is highly suspicious.
What a contradiction Flower chan. Back we are, flashbacks from the last game.

So you infer that they could be buddies yet you label me as scum just for postulating that much? Very hypocritical, or just scummy.

A forced read.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
stating them might ruin chances of seeing some changes

mind giving a somewhat detailed read on me and kiwi??
I don't like postponement when you already stated "you have solid reads"...

If you are BD then reserving solid reads are detrimental for town...


But I will wait and see what changes you are talking about.



I already made it clear that both and kiwi initial a bit heated arguments isn't suspicious but there are something about you guys that's striking me off.


Kiwi doesn't seem to be engaged in scum hunting. She seem a bit frustrated or tired idk...


You aren't giving me townie vibe either. The way you have played so far is inconsistent.

Your gameplay was aggresive in the beginning then switched to being mildly passive. Along with this, I don't find you cooperative. Yes you are trying to gain reactions but those efforts seem Hollow to me.
 
Sera didnt do much and then went to ''sleep'' early, could be seen as scum move as an excuse to not having participated much.
Flower did the same, came in screamed she was town, did a quick read on everyone then left to ''sleep''.
I asked her for her timezone before she left but she didnt answer.
So first he questions whether I actually went to sleep. Note the inverted commas. Then also says it can be a scum move.
Also after rereading, im clearing sera for now, he was joking with reborn and seemed helpfulll-ish.
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Not really, slips can happen.
Then he says he reread and is clearing me. Also I was helpful-ish
When i was saying that sera was liking kiwis stuff(even tho as i said im wrong about it since i reread and saw it was all jokes)
I used it in conjunction with kiwis actions and sera going inactive early.
Then he admits he was wrong and it was all jokes.
Thats all the usefulll stuff sera did today, before going to sleep. The rest was 3 posts joking around.

Sorrry it took a bit, haha
You get your conclusions from that, sera is kinda susu to me rn

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So when he first reread what I said I was cleared and helpful-ish. Now he goes back to rearead and it's a different conclusion. I went from cleared to sus without doing anything. Big flip flopping here. He can't even say it was based on rereading as he already did that and I came out cleared.
Ya sera was doing that same stuff last game and he was scum, but i dont let myself be biased like that, he is fine for now but if you look at my post he didnt provide anything usefull but asking for someone their alignment then he dipped.
Then I went to 'he is fine for now' while he still tries to justify his continued push.
So I went from 'cleared' to 'sus rn' to 'fine for now' to 'you are on 6th on my list of sus'. All without me doing anything.

Yeah this flip flopping when with no added info is sus af. Add in him getting scared and voting for me because I voted for him.
 
Flower is suspicious too if you cant tell

Let me explain again alright?
You formed your ''quick'' read off of cobra saying i cant trust anyone around me, based off his previous game where he got tricked and he was town. Thats a really thin/weak read but whatever.

Then when asked about it you said that you dont trust anyone when youre town and since cobra said the same then you trust him( here is your contradiction, if you dont trust anyone why are you trusting cobra on his weak claim)

Then when asked again about this, you say why we are sussing you all youre doing is your trying to confirm townies.

To which queen said that you cannot confirm townies day 1, what are you saying. Unless youre hiding things from us.

Thats why im still suspicious of you mate. Nothing else, either your the Fool, a weird town misplay from an experienced player like you, or scum slip.

So,again, prove to me youre good by your actions and were good. But for now youre super suspicious.
He sussed reborn, but as a joke i think, same as kiwi. Tho as i said. He came in said absolutely nothing of value then left.

Flower is weird tho, imo but to a lesser degree as me and i think others are saying, she didnt contribute much before sleeping.

Yeah, sunita came in an hour or so ago.
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to me not as me*
and more and those were from the past 10 pages @Seraphoenix, you saying i dont do actual scum hunting when youre stuck in the early pages and misdirecting me asking you to take your time and give us your opinion/reads is a little mean spirited dont you think?

I do hope we hear from you soon.
 
So first he questions whether I actually went to sleep. Note the inverted commas. Then also says it can be a scum move.

Then he says he reread and is clearing me. Also I was helpful-ish

Then he admits he was wrong and it was all jokes.

So when he first reread what I said I was cleared and helpful-ish. Now he goes back to rearead and it's a different conclusion. I went from cleared to sus without doing anything. Big flip flopping here. He can't even say it was based on rereading as he already did that and I came out cleared.

Then I went to 'he is fine for now' while he still tries to justify his continued push.
So I went from 'cleared' to 'sus rn' to 'fine for now' to 'you are on 6th on my list of sus'. All without me doing anything.

Yeah this flip flopping when with no added info is sus af. Add in him getting scared and voting for me because I voted for him.
I cleared your thing with kiwi and reborn cause i was wrong, doesnt mean im wrong with the rest.

I see what you are doing by the way. Anyone who was here today can see that i was just doing my job.

Again, i said that you came in and provided nothing of use then went to sleep, which i found sus but reborn was right in saying it wasnt that sus, which is why you were low with beta and kiwi.
 
yo sup guys?? missed me??

I don't like using meta but I've never seen krog aggressive and don't think I m saying he is ok or anything

@Queen its time you give your reads

@Marimo_420 any thoughts would be ok from you

@Kiwipom for real give some proper reads excluding me

@Reborn give me reads on me kiwi beta flower queen an sera

I believe we can find a scum among the people

I m including myself too

me
reborn
krog
queen
beta
kiwi
flower
sera

also reborn reads can be used to gain reactions too
i don't like giving reads on d1 that much, but since you asked me to do it...

finalbeta: felt personaly attacked when I asked him if he was a blue dragon. leaning blue dragon.
zara: neutral, too much fluff posts
seraphoenix: neutral, I don't really think liking posts and going to sleep make him suspicious.
krogothwolf: leans blue dragon. being a diplomatic player is his town meta, never seen him being aggressive, I don't know his scum meta, though.
kiwipom: leaning blue dragon because her discussion with al sama can't be bussing
fujishiro: town, though it's kinda funny how he is trying to get people who are sleeping lynched after last game
light d lamperouge: hot take: light is the neutral king who only needs to survive, he is only trying to "town lead" because he doesn't want to die, but he isn't trying to hurt town, that's the vibe I am getting from him. I think drago only mentioned good king/evil king in the signup thread though, I would like if appreciate if someone checked it for me
al sama: you are scum. playing the "town leader" by asking for reads and putting yourself in the scum list, I'm not buying it
lanji: leaning blue dragon, scum hunting like his usual meta
flower: neutral. like I said I don't think going to sleep makes someone suspicious, I have a trust trusting her after last game so I need to hear more from her
cobra: blue dragon, seemed confused by neutralwatcher behavior
fallen prince: blue dragon, i'm getting town vibes from and I didn't get that in any other game I played with him
sunita: neutral. inactive
melontonin: leaning blue dragon, too much fluff, but made some good posts
reborn: nothing much to say about this, reborn is scum hunting even harder than the other games. blue dragon
neutralwatcher: leans scum. I didn't think his was suspicious because of the cobra incident, but the way he defended himself: voting himself and begging town to unvote him without giving any info was scummy, I don't think he is the fool because it looks like no one was trollboxed so far (no weird outstanding posts) when it would be a great opportunity for him to use it to get lynched
marimo: leaning blue dragon, played like his usual town meta
 
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