You could say the complete opposite, you could say that showing how good your body look is a way to show how pride your are of it.
Lmao, Logiko, they're showing their pussy and dick to the internet and everyone can see it or, if you are an OF content creator, those subscribed to you. There's nothing proud in it. It shows "Look how easy I am and I don't value myself at all!". Please don't kid yourself.

Many of them suffer from severe depression because guess what, it does bring you massive mental struggle knowing the fact that you're exposed to many people and how you cannot have a normal daily life anymore. It also happen to celebrities but with sex workers, it's a lot, lot, lot worse.

A very, very, very, very small % of people.
So a very, very, very, very high % of people sell their private parts for a very small price.
Then you still try to advocate for this profession? Why? Your stance doesn't really make sense, unless you're a big customer of their services. People can show their pride and abilities with other means instead of degrading themselves to the public view.

I have elaborated it above.

Logical. If you consider that sex workers are not respectable, there is no reason why I should respect you.

I don't know why I should respect someone that consider that some people are not respectable just because they are doing their work.
Fine, I can live with that since I respect no one who views sex workers as "queens" - yes, I read your post in the politic thread. You're very pathetic in my eyes, far more than the actual sex workers. I didn't know we have our own Destiny here lmao. I mean, what the actual cuck...

Excuse me, should I have shouted "Slay queen!" just like you did?

If you lived on your own in the desert, no, indeed.

But you live in a society, and if we want everyone to live happily, we have to respect ourself when there is no reason to be disrespectful.
What's that supposed to mean???

You try to normalise this stuff as much as possible but I still remember how adam22 was completely dunked on all sides when his wife was getting her pipes filled by some pornstar in a porn. It seems society was on my side, huh? But let me guess, they all just lives in the deserts...

Words are weapons, never forget that.
I don't insult them, I don't mistreat them, I merely don't respect their work field.
Those things are not weapons.

Why should I respect a barman ? Because there is no reason to disrespect them and if I do not do that, I risk creating unvolontary tensions. So why do you do it with sex workers ?
You don't have to respect anything, that's the difference between us, Logiko. If you believe a barman is a low valued job, so be it. However, is he disrespecting his own body by doing this job? I don't think so. Does the internet know about all his shameful pictures? Would his parents disown him for pursuing such a job? Is it morally acceptable?

Btw, do you respect lawyers who openly defend criminals, knowing they are criminals but still do it because they get lots of money from it?

I think I'm the most openminded on the question here, thanks.
No, you are not, Logiko.

Because if you were, you would recognize people having different views on controversial moral standpoints. You are just being irrational antagonizing people for believing a morally corrupted job like sex workers isn't respectful.

Simpness isn't really a good intention...
Sanji simped dozens of times on panel and Nami didn't hit him for it.
Yet, he wanted to buy a slave, guess why? That's why this scene got changed because Toei had similar interpretations as we, lol.
 
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" I won't be a bad girl daddy "
Doesn't sound like consent to me.
Then this was rape and it must be brought to justice and punished. We are not talking about porn anymore.


respect is earned , you are not entitled to respect.
:lawsigh:
You owe respect to others as long as they are respectfull mate. Its not an option. If you do not agree, stop leaving in society and go create a town in the desert.
 
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Foul Legacy

If you do not agree, stop leaving in society and go create a town in the desert
People in desert deserve more respect than sex workers.
Middles eastern bro , where are you!.
Calling all autobots!!! Calling all Autobots!!!

Then this was rape and it must be brought to justice and punished. We are not talking about porn anymore
This was trending on top with 55M views
 
Lmao, Logiko, they're showing their pussy and dick to the internet and everyone can see it or,
And ? There is absolutely no rational reason that say that showing a private part of a body is a problem for society. This comes from only one place : religion.


There's nothing proud in it.
SOme people are proud of their body. I see no reason to bodyshame them.


Look how easy I am and I don't value myself at all!
THat's what you get wrong.

A person showing you their body is not yours (that rape culture). And it doesn't mean that she is less valuable. Its not up to you to say what is valuable and what is not.


Many of them suffer from severe depression because guess what, it does bring you massive mental struggle knowing the fact that you're exposed to many people and how you cannot have a normal daily life anymore.
Let me give you a spoiler, the depression doesn't come from doing the job, the dpression comes from the reception. Meaning the depression with the sex workers is the result of behaviors like yours who feel entitled to disrespect them you incel.


It also happen to celebrities but with sex workers
Again, the problem is not celebrity, its the disrespect.


Then you still try to advocate for this profession?
I'm not advocating for this profession, I would prefer for people to be paid more. I'm advocating for the RESPECTING THE CHOICE of people who choose to do what they want with their body.

Your stance doesn't really make sense
It makes perfect sence as long as you understand that respect is important in life.

People can show their pride and abilities with other means instead of degrading themselves to the public view.
People do what they want, its not your place to judge them. Those people are hurting noone so be respectfull.


I have elaborated it above.
No what you said is "I don't respect sexwork because showing bodypart is not respectfull", you didn't explain why showing body parts isn't respectfull with rationnal arguments.


Fine, I can live with that since I respect no one who views sex workers as "queens"
That girl was a queen not because of sex work but because she followed what she wanted to do without listening to toxic people.


Excuse me, should I have shouted "Slay queen!" just like you did?
You are really not helping yourself here Einstein...


What's that supposed to mean???
Its means that if you want to live in society and be respected, be respectfull of people who are not hurting you in any way.


ou try to normalise this stuff
YOU TRY to normalize incel stuff. I'm just taking you back to reality where respect is a primordial notion.

You are the bad duck here, not me dear incel.


adam22 was completely dunked on all sides when his wife was getting her pipes filled by some pornstar in a porno. It seems society was on my side, huh? But let me guess, they all just lives in the deserts...
Who is adam22 and what are you talking about ?


I don't insult them, I don't mistreat them,
Yes you do. By explaining that we should not respect sex worker, you are normalizing the oppression against that category of people and the harassment they are already facing.

Again, words have power.


You don't have to respect anything, that's the difference between us, Logiko.
Then, don't live in society or don't expect to be respected.


If you believe a barman is a low valued job, so be it.
There are no such thing as "low value jobs"


However, is he disrespecting his own body by doing this job? I don't think so.
Again, not a rationnal argument.



Does the internet know about all his shameful pictures?
I don't think showing your body part when you want them to be is shamefull, so I don't know what you are talking about here.


Would his parents disown him for pursuing such a job?
Parents who disown their kids because of their job are very bad parents. Period.

Is it morally acceptable?
Morality is relative. Bad argument.

tw, do you respect lawyers who openly defend criminals
Of course.


No, you are not, Logiko.
I'm not the one showing hatred here mate.


Because if you were, you would recognize people having different views on controversial moral standpoints.
Openmindness doesn't mean that we should be respectfull of intolerant people bra


Sanji simped dozens of times on panel and Nami didn't hit him for it.
Yet, he wanted to buy a slave, guess why? That's why this scene got changed because Toei had similar interpretations as we, lol.
You have a twisted mind...
 
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nah i listened to andrew tate and i changed my life. Alhamdullilah
Oh boi.. I think I have found the evolution of Bob here..

Its an electrik type


People in desert deserve more respect than sex workers.
Middles eastern bro , where are you!.
Calling all autobots!!! Calling all Autobots!!!
Talking about first degree here...


This was trending on top with 55M views
If there was no consent then this must be brought in front of justice and the rapist must be put in jail. Simple

:kayneshrug:

We are not talking about porn here, its illegal stuff. (I do not know what you are talking about)


i do not need your respect lmao. you are a porn addict and are in a intrernet forum, probably have a neckbeard to with cheetos
Porn addict ? Me ? Nah, I can't stop tomorrow if I want
 

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Yes, either they missinterpreted it like you guys and thought it was effy

Either they thought it would be potentially missinterepreted and removed it

Either way, it doesn't change the fact that this panel comes with a context. And he a continuation of the fact that the crew wants to save Caimie by buying her. Sanji is simply expressing simpness like he always does and ask to buy/save one more person, a girl. This act of simpness is immediately punished, end of the joke.

There is no such thing as Sanji asking to buy a sex slave, its simply stupid reasonning. And I'm facepalming myself when I see that people can think that Oda would say that.

You guys are taking the hate too far.

Oda project his sexism, he is not transforming Sanji into a slave trafficker, think a little guys.
wait so you think you know more about it than them?
Lmao i forgot i was talking to the local clown for a sec
 
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wait so you think you know more about it than them?
It would not be the first time the anim messes up

:kayneshrug:


Lmao i forgot i was talking to the loca clown for a sec
:funky:


The rot from the political thread is feasting and spreading to other threads... there is no hope... WG is slowly dying and rotting from the inside... maybe it is the time we give WG the emporers mercy... death :josad:
I'll make this forum my territory hehehe

 
My last post to this shit topic:

There is absolutely no rational reason that say that showing a private part of a body is a problem for society.
Well, you have no problem with it but as I brought up my arguments here, this is simply not the case.
There's no use feigning ignorance over it.

This comes from only one place : religion.
Lol, you portray this like only religious people give a fuck to it.
I have many non religious friends who have a similar stance like me.

SOme people are proud of their body.
So?
Your pictures are exposed, everyone can see it, masturbate to it or to mock you. You are just on high copium if you believe they are showing all their private parts because they are proud of their bodies, otherwise there wouldn't be many who are depressed af, lol.

A person showing you your body is not yours (that rape culture).
??????????????????

Let me give you a spoiler, the depression doesn't come from doing the job, the dpression comes from the reception. Meaning the depression with the sex workers is the result of behaviors like yours who feel entitled to disrespect them you incel.
You're spouting some random nonsense.
It's the fact their private parts actually know no privacy, once again their private parts are exposed to the internet forever, they struggle to make relationships, it's hard to find romantic partners because not every guy is a cuck like you (I don't even have to ask you, if you advocate for them so much, I'm sure you wouldn't even mind dating them since nothing of that is shameful or morally questionable to begin with) who dates someone who does OF or is a prostitute. The reception will be always there, there is a reason why sex worker jobs is rather controversial.

It's funny how you say I'm an incel when I'm the one with a job, having a social circle, an education and a gf while you're just a jobless bum writing essays of essays in a forum which you apparently don't even like. How about, instead of telling people to respect certain jobs, you look out for a job yourself?

Again, the problem is not celebrity, its the disrespect.
No shit.

I'm advocating for the RESPECTING THE CHOICE of people who choose to do what they want with their body.
Cool, so?

You're obviously malding with madness for failing to convince me otherwise, that's why you're starting to namecall me stuff.

Again, I don't respect this kind of job because it does not allign with my moral values. It doesn't mean I don't accept them as people.

It makes perfect sence as long as you understand that respect is important in life.
Yeah, just like I said to albino:
Secondly, I don't hate sex workers, it's their own lives and they are mature enough to know what is best to them. It's their own responsibility - as I said, it's a different story if people get forced to sell their bodies.
However, I don't have to respect it. They are selling their own bodies after all. I'm apathetic to it and I hold the view that every person can do whatever they want as long as it's not illegal. Yet, I have my own beliefs and I don't have to respect everything...

That's my stance to it.

People do what they want, its not your place to judge them.
Lol, did I tell you they shouldn't do it? Again, I said everybody can do whatever they want as long as they're not hurting others or their activities being legal but do I have to show respect to it? I don't think so and you don't have a say to it as well.

No what you said is "I don't respect sexwork because showing bodypart is not respectfull"
I brought way more arguments than that stuff you're nitpicking, lol.

That girl was a queen not because of sex work but because she followed what she wanted to do without listening to toxic people.
According to Foul Legacy, she was already rich af but wanted to earn even more money.
Your response to it: "queen".

Forget sex workers, I can't even respect you lol. Actually, I respect sex workers more than people like you.

Its means that if you want to live in society and be respected, be respectfull of people who are not hurting you in any way.
I'm treating people respectfully as long as they are respectful.
It is different if I do not respect "odd" jobs and blatantly being disrespectful to that person.

YOU TRY to normalize incel stuff.
Incels are woman-hating losers who can't get a single girl.
I criticised sex workers in general or rather, I show my lack of respect clearly to these kind of jobs.

It seems you are just dropping some random buzzwords around, lmao. Idk on which planet you live but it's a fact that sex workers do not have a good reputation in society, that's why they get rejected by many people. Are they all incels? Even fellow woman who don't appeal to these kind of jobs? Imagine kids proudly telling about their parents profession:

Kid 1: "My dad is a software developer"
Kid 2: "My mom is an engineer"
Kid 3: "My mom's doing OF!"

Dude, kids get bullied over it. That's the reality. Prejudice will be always there and well, what should I say? These people knew what being a sex worker means and if they willingly do this, why should I be mad about the fact that they're getting rejections?

Who is adam22 and what are you talking about ?
Afaik, adam22 was someone who did porn with his wife until he decided to let some dude doing porn with his wife.
It's an understatement that he got roasted on the internet and on various shows.

By explaining that we should not respect sex worker, you are normalizing the oppression against that category of people and the harassment they are already facing.
I said, I don't respect sex workers and I gave my reasons to it, whatever you do, Idegf.
You can respect them, date them, waste your money on nudes, it's your thing.

Listen, I don't respect their work but I wouldn't harass them over it. I wouldn't even say a thing to it if you weren't shouting your "totally-non-biased" opinion to respect them, no, that people should respect OF and these kind of jobs. Why you always gotta bring politics in OP threads? This was about Sanji apparently buying a slave and you somehow made it political again, lol.

Then, don't live in society or don't expect to be respected.
Uff, this sure hurt my feelings that a random stranger on the internet won't respect me.

There are no such thing as "low value jobs"
Aight.

Again, not a rationnal argument.
Lol...
Logiko, is he disrespecting his own body for doing some drinks? Yes or no? There is just one logical conclusion.

I don't think showing your body part when you want them to be is shamefull, so I don't know what you are talking about here.
Um, what?
You're completely delulu. So you're telling me it's usually not shameful for someone if their private parts either get leaked in the internet and everyone can see it? It wouldn't be shameful if your dick pic is suddenly hanging on the company board?

I'm just talking about nudes btw. Then there's actual sexual content where everyone can see, your parents, your friends, your potential partner, your potential kids, you screwing some randoms...

Parents who disown their kids because of their job are very bad parents.
Yeah, their job in question is being an "OF content creator". Although, disowning them is quite harsh but I get why parents get mentally scarred like that. You're trying to bring them moral values as much as possible to raise your children to be good successful people and the last thing you wanna see them is them doing some shady stuff or ending up as strippers.

Morality is relative.
Alright, so it's morally okay if you defend criminals knowing they are criminals because you're getting paid?

There's morality when you appear like a beggar in a high quality michelin star restaurant begging people for some cash although you would have all the money and time to care for basic hygiene and appearance?

There's morality if you film giving homeless people merely for clout and earning more money?

So you're respecting lawyers who would defend a sex offender bcoz of money? Do I understand this right?

Heck, unlike sex workers, I actually even hate lawyers like that.

I'm not the one showing hatred here mate.
Lol, alright dude.

Openmindness doesn't mean that we should be respectfull of intolerant people bra
You're demanding, get immediately rude and passively aggressive when someone doesn't agree with your moral values and you immediately drop some buzzwords.

Logiko, from what I've read from you so far, you're everything but open minded. I also had a conversation with albino and it went way more civil than ours. Do you guess why?

We all know how you lost your shit in the "Carrot for nakama" thread - something which came out to be wrong after all.

You have a twisted mind...
Sure... :suresure:
 
Yes, you have. If you want to live in society.

Either that or you live in the desert all alone.
option #3 : fake it
This is not a simple subject.
If you wanna ruin a country give them free access to porn or drugs
Yes more war on drugs :finally: Kill all drug users and cleanse the country :finally::finally:
Great that you show support for trans people !
nah i listened to andrew tate and i changed my life. Alhamdullilah
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This was trending on top with 55M views
WHERE was this trending? And how do you know about it??
 
That's a sin. Sex is for reproduction only.

''can we buy her too?'' no it wasn't camie who was being sold at that time
You know that Sanji wouldn't have treated her as a sex slave 🙄 he'd have rescued her and then kissed the ground before her like he does with Nami & Robin

That's why I have no pity to all the OF simps.
Like, they decide to waste their money to get some nude pics, so why should I feel pity towards them? Because they are lonely? Come on...
OF consumers may do it because they are lonely or developed a parasocial relationship with the creator. They need mental help, not shaming. Why are you so judgemental?

sanji is a perfect example of how you get treated as a porn addict
zoro focused onn the grind and look where he is now.
Still #2 after Goofy God Nika
 
you're assuming they messed up because your ego refuses to admit what sanji is doing
Nothing to to with ego, I'm just simply reading the panel and not overanalysing it

:kayneshrug:


My last post to this shit topic:
I hope so yeah


Well, you have no problem with it but as I brought up my arguments here, this is simply not the case.
There's no use feigning ignorance over it.
You still haven't given me a clear rationnal argument yet...


Lol, you portray this like only religious people give a fuck to it.
I have many non religious friends who have a similar stance like me.
Religion influenced culture. So when you here "this is immoral" when talking about people showing their body, its mostly due to a religious influence, not a rationnal argument.


Your pictures are exposed, everyone can see it, masturbate
If you consent to put them on the internet, what's the problem ?

:kayneshrug:Again, no rationnal argument.


otherwise there wouldn't be many who are depressed af
Again, depression is mainly due to people with your behavior, not because of the activity itself.


??????????????????
their body*


they struggle to make relationships
I don't think so no. Most people are not incels like you mate. I would have no problem dating or being friend with someone who does sex work. It guys like you who are simply intolerant.

not every guy is a cuck like you
Wow, talking about toxic masculinity.. lol


I'm sure you wouldn't even mind dating them since nothing of that is shameful or morally questionable to begin with
Contrary to you, I'm respectfull of people and I do not question women who want to do what they want with their body


who dates someone who does OF or is a prostitute
People with open minds


The reception will be always there, there is a reason why sex worker jobs is rather controversial.
Yes, its called sexism and patriarchy

when I'm the one with a job, having a social circle, an education and a gf
Incel has nothing to do with your professionnal situation. It has to do with your ideology.

Courage to your partner.

Why you always gotta bring politics in OP threads?
Because everything is political.
Stories are political
And this subject is political

Politic was present on this forum long before I came here. I'm only shading a light over it.

How about, instead of telling people to respect certain jobs, you look out for a job yourself?
You don't know me very well, do ya?


Do the same
:kayneshrug:


You're obviously malding with madness for failing to convince me otherwise
I'm not trying to convince you. I'm bored, frustrated and I need a political distraction right now. You are the perfect subject.


Again, I don't respect this kind of job because it does not allign with my moral values. It doesn't mean I don't accept them as people.
"they are not respectable" > Not accepting them as legitimate working people. Simple

:sanmoji:


Yeah, just like I said to albino:
Secondly, I don't hate sex workers, it's their own lives and they are mature enough to know what is best to them. It's their own responsibility - as I said, it's a different story if people get forced to sell their bodies.
However, I don't have to respect it. They are selling their own bodies after all. I'm apathetic to it and I hold the view that every person can do whatever they want as long as it's not illegal. Yet, I have my own beliefs and I don't have to respect everything...

That's my stance to it.
Yup. Your stance is disrespect. I got that.


Uff, this sure hurt my feelings that a random stranger on the internet won't respect me.
:goatasure:


I brought way more arguments than that stuff you're nitpicking, lol.
I used a shortcut. You are not the first with the argumentation, I know exactly what you think.


According to Foul Legacy, she was already rich af but wanted to earn even more money.
Your response to it: "queen".
Yup, Queen.
There is nothing wrong with making a bit more money with something a little bit spicy.


Forget sex workers, I can't even respect you lol. Actually, I respect sex workers more than people like you.
Well, that's a positive evolution


I'm treating people respectfully as long as they are respectful.
And there is nothing disrespectfull to you in being a sex worker. So you have no reason to be disrespectfull.


It is different if I do not respect "odd" jobs and blatantly being disrespectful to that person.
No lol


Incels are woman-hating losers who can't get a single girl.
I criticised sex workers in general or rather, I show my lack of respect clearly to these kind of jobs.
Which is one of the arguments of incels

:kappa:


but it's a fact that sex workers do not have a good reputation in society, that's why they get rejected by many people.
INdeed. Because of people like you.


Kid 1: "My dad is a software developer"
Kid 2: "My mom is an engineer"
Kid 3: "My mom's doing OF!"

Dude, kids get bullied over it. That's the reality. Prejudice will be always there and well, what should I say?
Again, the problem is not the activity.

The problem is the reception.

The problem do not come from sex workers but the people who bullies. Don't invert the responsability here.


These people knew what being a sex worker means and if they willingly do this, why should I be mad about the fact that they're getting rejections?
Women know that when they put a short dress, they will get harassed. Do this mean that they have to stop doing it ? What is the rationnal reason behind that.

Stop blaming the victims, blame the bullies.


Afaik, adam22 was someone who did porn with his wife until he decided to let some dude doing porn with his wife.
It's an understatement that he got roasted on the internet and on various shows.
Was this relationship a consent thing ? Was he aware ? Was he Ok with it ?

If so, there is absolutely no rationnal reasons to bully him because he let his wife have fun with someone else.


I said, I don't respect sex workers and I gave my reasons to it, whatever you do, Idegf.
:luuh:


Listen, I don't respect their work but I wouldn't harass them over it.
Yeah, its just normal, I will not applaud you for this. This would be a justice thing if you did...


Why you always gotta bring politics in OP threads? This was about Sanji apparently buying a slave and you somehow made it political again, lol.
Because the point of this thread is that Sanji support prostitution. Like if sex worker should be shamed.

I didn't not bring politic here, this thread WAS political.

Lol...
Logiko, is he disrespecting his own body for doing some drinks? Yes or no? There is just one logical conclusion.
If you manage to tell me with rationnal word why showing your nude body is immoral, then you might win the jackpot with me.

But the bodyshaming and overall shaming of sexworker is based on nothing but "showing your sex is disrespecting your body".. without EVER telling why with rationnal argument.

The reality is, there are none.

it's usually not shameful for someone if their private parts either get leaked in the internet and everyone can see it?
I think you have reading issues. I told you showing your body WHEN YOU WANT TO (hence, when there is consent) is NOT shamefull.


but I get why parents get mentally scarred like that
Nah, I don't get that.
Those are very bad parents.


Alright, so it's morally okay if you defend criminals knowing they are criminals because you're getting paid?
Everyone has the right of a defense. Its a human right.


There's morality when you appear like a beggar in a high quality michelin star restaurant begging people for some cash although you would have all the money and time to care for basic hygiene and appearance?
what ?


There's morality if you film giving homeless people merely for clout and earning more money?
Well, for me its immoral.

:sanjimeh:


So you're respecting lawyers who would defend a sex offender bcoz of money? Do I understand this right?
They are doing their job, so I see nothing wrong with that. Again, having a defense is a human right. No matter what you did.

I find it very odd that you are questionning that....

You're demanding, get immediately rude and passively aggressive when someone doesn't agree with your moral values and you immediately drop some buzzwords.
People like you will hide under "the right for an opinion" even tho you know very well that you are participating in the normalization of the hatred of sex workers.

So, no. I won't have any respect for you.


you're everything but open minded.
If you say so.

:sanmoji:


We all know how you lost your shit in the "Carrot for nakama" thread - something which came out to be wrong after all.
Lmao. That what people like you here don't get.

I
never
lose
my
sh*t

I'm always very in control of what I write. And I absolutely do not mind having intense discussions. If I'm disrespectfull to you, its not because I'm angry, its because you don't deserve my respect just yet.


Quite a bit yeah
 
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