General & Others Zoro s confirmed to be the deuteragonist.
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That would not change anything.
Once again :
The reality of a story ALWAYS prevails on the words of the authors on said story
You guys REALLY need to understand this golden rule, because if you don't, reading the story to analyse it will be rendered valueless. If Oda adds things that are NOT in the story, listen to him. But if Oda rewrite thing that are already in the story OUTSIDE of the story (which never happened in my memory), do NOT listen to him.
Always trust the story first.
Once again :
The reality of a story ALWAYS prevails on the words of the authors on said story
You guys REALLY need to understand this golden rule, because if you don't, reading the story to analyse it will be rendered valueless. If Oda adds things that are NOT in the story, listen to him. But if Oda rewrite thing that are already in the story OUTSIDE of the story (which never happened in my memory), do NOT listen to him.
Always trust the story first.
I don't believe you; your takes have been nothing but tears and shit so far lol.
LMAO, listen, I would get if Paperchampion started to get arrogant by all his W takes but you? When have you been completely right about One Piece related topics? You yap about some complete nonsense - I still remember when you vehemently tried to defend how G5 was implemented into the story - and your most popular debates about a bunny girl only ended in a huge L.
Theorists essentially have to analyse the story as well, especially when it comes to predicting future story elements. So yes, they also have to analyse the narrative as well.
You lot throw words like "narrative telling", "narrative purpose" but tell me one thing why the narrative doesn't portray Zoro to be the deuteragonist. Your idea of a deuteragonist is definitely different to Oda's, so it's irrelevant how much you wanna cope about it.
Guess what, this time, it's another L because it's clear you've been misinterpreting the story the entire time if you believe Zoro isn't a deuteragonist, even after Oda's statement.
Yeah, basic rule of storytelling... The difficulty is that each story follows their own kind of storytelling and it has its own narrative. You have both Genos and Sasuke as deuteragonists.
Sure:
Also, correction: No matter what YOU think.
What Oda thinks, however, truly matters as his words are the prime source when it comes to Zoro being a deuteragonist. Cry.
You're just spouting some fancy words again.
Nothing makes me ignorant nor a biased fan when citing Oda who wrote Zoro as the deuteragonist. I don't even understand why you're triggered this much. But let me explain Zoro's position in the story.
1.) Zoro was the first member who joined Luffy.
2.) Both Zoro and Luffy received comparable portrayal throughout the story and the bond between him and Luffy is very special, maybe even more than the other strawhats.
3.) Zoro is the inofficial Vice Captain of this crew and he strengthened his position when he sacrificed himself to rescue his Captain. The "Nothing happened" moment was crucial because it was that point when Zoro truly put Luffy's dream/his goal above his own.
4.) Rayleigh is essentially the Zoro to Roger which solidifies Zoro's stance in the crew even further.
5.) Zoro is the only strawhat member who is also a supernova in comparison to Luffy.
6.) He always takes out the Nr. 2.
LMAO, listen, I would get if Paperchampion started to get arrogant by all his W takes but you? When have you been completely right about One Piece related topics? You yap about some complete nonsense - I still remember when you vehemently tried to defend how G5 was implemented into the story - and your most popular debates about a bunny girl only ended in a huge L.
Theorists essentially have to analyse the story as well, especially when it comes to predicting future story elements. So yes, they also have to analyse the narrative as well.
You lot throw words like "narrative telling", "narrative purpose" but tell me one thing why the narrative doesn't portray Zoro to be the deuteragonist. Your idea of a deuteragonist is definitely different to Oda's, so it's irrelevant how much you wanna cope about it.
Guess what, this time, it's another L because it's clear you've been misinterpreting the story the entire time if you believe Zoro isn't a deuteragonist, even after Oda's statement.
Yeah, basic rule of storytelling... The difficulty is that each story follows their own kind of storytelling and it has its own narrative. You have both Genos and Sasuke as deuteragonists.
Sure:
Also, correction: No matter what YOU think.
What Oda thinks, however, truly matters as his words are the prime source when it comes to Zoro being a deuteragonist. Cry.
You're just spouting some fancy words again.
Nothing makes me ignorant nor a biased fan when citing Oda who wrote Zoro as the deuteragonist. I don't even understand why you're triggered this much. But let me explain Zoro's position in the story.
1.) Zoro was the first member who joined Luffy.
2.) Both Zoro and Luffy received comparable portrayal throughout the story and the bond between him and Luffy is very special, maybe even more than the other strawhats.
3.) Zoro is the inofficial Vice Captain of this crew and he strengthened his position when he sacrificed himself to rescue his Captain. The "Nothing happened" moment was crucial because it was that point when Zoro truly put Luffy's dream/his goal above his own.
4.) Rayleigh is essentially the Zoro to Roger which solidifies Zoro's stance in the crew even further.
5.) Zoro is the only strawhat member who is also a supernova in comparison to Luffy.
6.) He always takes out the Nr. 2.
"L"ogiko brings up the argument that Zoro can't be the deuteragonist since he isn't acting as a pivot who progresses and influences the entire story.
So what does this self-proclaimed "expert" do? Bringing up Blackbeard who is an ANTAGONIST... Ofc BB influences the story of which Zoro was never intented to, lol. He is the one who is supposed to wreck the protagonist's world.
So what does this self-proclaimed "expert" do? Bringing up Blackbeard who is an ANTAGONIST... Ofc BB influences the story of which Zoro was never intented to, lol. He is the one who is supposed to wreck the protagonist's world.
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A deuteragonist needs to influence the story significantly? Did I miss something? Law is one of the more important side characters but he isn't replacing a strawhat, let alone Zoro.
Does Genos influence the story in anyway?
Does Sherlock's sidekick have huge influence over it as well?
Isn't Thorfinn's best buddy the deuteragonist, too? Does he heavily influence the story?
Does Genos influence the story in anyway?
Does Sherlock's sidekick have huge influence over it as well?
Isn't Thorfinn's best buddy the deuteragonist, too? Does he heavily influence the story?
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