Le Fishe Thread Reality check for otakus- successful combat athletes in real life are exactly like Eustass Kid, whereas the losers are like Shanks
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This is not real life, this is a story, its happenings and whereabouts are written with the purpose of have certain meaning and teachings.
Real life events also can have teachings/meanings, but when they do is because we can make by ourself a teaching out of them.
Being arrogant and being confident are two entire different things. Most fighters are rightfully confident in their skills because of the constant training they do. They eventually can sound arrogant, but is often due to marketing reason.
And dont forget that most of the times, when a fighter asks a rematch after he just lost, blaming the ref, saying the opponent cheated, saying the scorecards are wrong and in reality he had won, etc., he loses the rematch too, often in a worse manner than the precedent.
UFC, boxer, and fighting sports are individualistic sport, therefore there is a lot of individualism mentality in it.
While One Piece also has a lot of invidualism in it because is a japanese product, but as a story it holds lot of altruistic valor and teachings. Is still a story about friendship and about helping the oppressed.
Shanks wins because he is protecting the people of the island and of his crew.
Kidd loses because he wanted to attack and ravage, to retaliate what happened to him the last time, only for his own individualistic desire of success and vengeance.
IS THAT SIMPLE.
The valors you are looking for, about being arrogant and competitive are not the one highlighted in One Piece.
With that being said, the problem is not about this, but is about the role some of you tried to force Kidd into, a role he never fit in.
I have nothing against Kidd, let alone against being a fan of him. But he was written just to be another Luffy's rival that eventually fail, not a main rival to reach PK title, relevant plot-wise since the start, who are Shanks and Blackbeard (and Buggy as comic relief).
Let me ask you a question: if you have to shoot a 2:30 hr movie about the whole story told in One Piece, so you need to do make a very short summary of it, you hire an actor to give him Kidd role? Is there any space for him?
Real life events also can have teachings/meanings, but when they do is because we can make by ourself a teaching out of them.
Being arrogant and being confident are two entire different things. Most fighters are rightfully confident in their skills because of the constant training they do. They eventually can sound arrogant, but is often due to marketing reason.
And dont forget that most of the times, when a fighter asks a rematch after he just lost, blaming the ref, saying the opponent cheated, saying the scorecards are wrong and in reality he had won, etc., he loses the rematch too, often in a worse manner than the precedent.
UFC, boxer, and fighting sports are individualistic sport, therefore there is a lot of individualism mentality in it.
While One Piece also has a lot of invidualism in it because is a japanese product, but as a story it holds lot of altruistic valor and teachings. Is still a story about friendship and about helping the oppressed.
Shanks wins because he is protecting the people of the island and of his crew.
Kidd loses because he wanted to attack and ravage, to retaliate what happened to him the last time, only for his own individualistic desire of success and vengeance.
IS THAT SIMPLE.
The valors you are looking for, about being arrogant and competitive are not the one highlighted in One Piece.
With that being said, the problem is not about this, but is about the role some of you tried to force Kidd into, a role he never fit in.
I have nothing against Kidd, let alone against being a fan of him. But he was written just to be another Luffy's rival that eventually fail, not a main rival to reach PK title, relevant plot-wise since the start, who are Shanks and Blackbeard (and Buggy as comic relief).
Let me ask you a question: if you have to shoot a 2:30 hr movie about the whole story told in One Piece, so you need to do make a very short summary of it, you hire an actor to give him Kidd role? Is there any space for him?
Again, you keep ignoring the fact that killing surrendering people is bad. Idc what you think of kid or what kind of person he is, we just don’t think it’s a good thing by our moral standards. It’s why there are crimes in place to try to stop this
Which is why your comment about admirals doing it is stupid. We want admirals to be low morally because they’re villains, and them doing villainous stuff is fun. If the SHs had killed a surrendering beast pirates on the other hand would be jarring
Which is why your comment about admirals doing it is stupid. We want admirals to be low morally because they’re villains, and them doing villainous stuff is fun. If the SHs had killed a surrendering beast pirates on the other hand would be jarring
yes admirals are villains and yet here you all are pretending that kid is a hero.
Also if you think shanks killing him despite his surrendering which they had done 2 times before and they all chose to ignore it i might add.
Then kidd is even worse than shanks for crucifying people who surrendered.
If you think shanks is bad for what he did then by your own logic kidd is several times worse
Also if you think shanks killing him despite his surrendering which they had done 2 times before and they all chose to ignore it i might add.
Then kidd is even worse than shanks for crucifying people who surrendered.
If you think shanks is bad for what he did then by your own logic kidd is several times worse