[FNZ] Salem of Lies Return of the Throne (Unofficial)

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NeutralWatcher

i dont sus her, it would just be funny watching her die with me. im not particularly concerned about who I sus or dont sus anymore if Im being lynched, it's not my concern anymore.
That's not funny.

If you're Blue Dragon then defend yourself to avoid misslynch. Why didn't you answer who Al Sama and Light aren't in your sus list while yesterday you felt bad vibe from them? What changed your thoughts about them?
 

Melontonin

Blood Manipulation
and the princess is here to investigate, not to rest in the jail every night
You want the princess outta jail?? you want her to tell you my role and sera's?

Also I am still waiting on my answer in regards to this:
And now this quick unvote, when you have a reputation in this game of looking things up in the wiki, so you should know you are not in danger if you are the 5th vote. Why the panic?
Why the quick unvote? Why the deflection?
 
That's not funny.

If you're Blue Dragon then defend yourself to avoid misslynch. Why didn't you answer who Al Sama and Light aren't in your sus list while yesterday you felt bad vibe from them? What changed your thoughts about them?
defend myself...how? i was asked to give reads, I gave them, then ppl didnt like the reads

i was asked questions, then i answered several of them, then ppl didnt like my answers

majority of my sus stems from the black dragon thing, and there's nothing I can say to absolve that. so what exactly is it you want me to say?

so i decided to try to a new tactic, I revealed my role. now because my role has an ability to kill someone that I have zero control over, I'm supposed to do something about it?
 

Kiwipom

Ghost Princess
You want the princess outta jail?? you want her to tell you my role and sera's?
Queen has a point. I do want Flowa out of the jail. What's the point of having a princess if she is just going to sit around in jail and not use her ability? This makes her the same as a vanilla town that is wasting the jailor's abilities away.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
I find it more odd flower's game revolves so much around claiming and mapping out the roles of a couple folks
but no counterclaim yet so she seems honest.
i dont necessarily fault the people who claimed to her in whispers.
She might looks fine now but what's the gurantee that she won't get converted later...

Can you take that gurantee???

We can't always protect her while exposing more important roles like Sheriff, butler to kill and conversion....

It's better not to reveal until there is compulsion to do so ....
 
That's not funny.

If you're Blue Dragon then defend yourself to avoid misslynch. Why didn't you answer who Al Sama and Light aren't in your sus list while yesterday you felt bad vibe from them? What changed your thoughts about them?
but sure ill answer this

i changed my mind on Al because when mel said she wanted to whisper to him instead of the confirmed town flower because she thinks Al is bluedragon, al replied he wasn't confirmed instead of jumping at the chance to get her role which i assume he would do if he was scum

as for light, i realized i dont have any reason to trust or distrust him so null felt fair
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vote Zara

I do think you could have shown your involvement more, asked more questions, been more aggressive, defended your points more.

A fellow man of the True North.... Smells like scum



 

Kiwipom

Ghost Princess
She might looks fine now but what's the gurantee that she won't get converted later...

Can you take that gurantee???

We can't always protect her while exposing more important roles like Sheriff, butler to kill and conversion....

It's better not to reveal until there is compulsion to do so ....
Honestly, I take responsibility for this.

I got annoyed and frustrated at Flowa's baseless accusations and saying that I was somehow scum team with Beta. I suggested that I was willing to whisper my role to her just to get her to stop sussing me. But I was hesitant and said if I was gonna do it, I will do it later in the phase and thinking back.

I didn't expect this to catch on. I logged off for a few hours and when I checked back, Flowa encouraged a few people to whisper to her and I think some of the newer players liked the idea and did it.
 
You want the princess outta jail?? you want her to tell you my role and sera's?

Also I am still waiting on my answer in regards to this:


Why the quick unvote? Why the deflection?
lol
idc about your role
is the prince the only person who can protect flower from scum now?
the prince is the blue dragon's trump card, we can't waste his time making him a DOCTOR
the princess is an important investigative townie, the princess was one of the most important town roles in the last game
why do you want her to keep doing nothing, rotting in the jail?
sorry but the meta you are probably used to rely on won't work here, there are limits to whispers, there are classes who can see whispers
regarding zara, why do I need to say the same thing twice? he claimed the hunter, a class which was supposed to be a unique role, a class which could protect themselves from getting converted in n1
turns out the host didn't make the hunter a unique role here, but that's not my fault
 
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NeutralWatcher

When I was jailed by Krogothwolf in previous Throne of Lies Game, I could still perform my action to investigate player.

@Flower Who did you investigate last night?
 
She might looks fine now but what's the gurantee that she won't get converted later...

Can you take that gurantee???

We can't always protect her while exposing more important roles like Sheriff, butler to kill and conversion....

It's better not to reveal until there is compulsion to do so ....
I cant
because flowa has taken this route before and everytime she did at some point she was counterclaimed . in the last throne of lies game, it was natalija who counterclaimed but none of that has happened here. flowa is at fault here, not sera, not melontonin not al sama.
I will personally feel like shit if I'm wrong .
but as of right now , I would be hesitant to lead a lynch wagon on her.

however
conversion later is another thing I cant guarantee and if she is converted she may relay that info to the scum team . meaning flower has to have a blocker by her at all times. yeah it really is a shitty move . fb also outted himself.

from now on guys lets not claim until its necessary to do so
:josad:
 

Melontonin

Blood Manipulation
Honestly, I take responsibility for this.

I got annoyed and frustrated at Flowa's baseless accusations and saying that I was somehow scum team with Beta. I suggested that I was willing to whisper my role to her just to get her to stop sussing me. But I was hesitant and said if I was gonna do it, I will do it later in the phase and thinking back.

I didn't expect this to catch on. I logged off for a few hours and when I checked back, Flowa encouraged a few people to whisper to her and I think some of the newer players liked the idea and did it.
She did not encourage me to do it. I think Sera went by his own volition as well.
 
Unseen is full at the moment and they aren't taking any new applications, doesn't make sense for Flower to be jailed tonight. She should be let loose and free to investigate whoever she desires.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
@LANJI CUCKSMOKE

Your townie meta is slightly off. You are quite pushy as twonie. Case in point is you vs tac on day one few games back when you literally got under his nerves....

But as a scum you are less aggressive and more balanced.

What's holding you back?

Also, whom you sus right now?

Honestly, I take responsibility for this.

I got annoyed and frustrated at Flowa's baseless accusations and saying that I was somehow scum team with Beta. I suggested that I was willing to whisper my role to her just to get her to stop sussing me. But I was hesitant and said if I was gonna do it, I will do it later in the phase and thinking back.

I didn't expect this to catch on. I logged off for a few hours and when I checked back, Flowa encouraged a few people to whisper to her and I think some of the newer players liked the idea and did it.
It's alright!

What's done is done. This game people are claiming for no reason - First flower then al and now two players whispered their role in a conversion game... it's bad play.

Claiming should be done only when there is utmost need....
 

AL sama

Red Haired
i changed my mind on Al because when mel said she wanted to whisper to him instead of the confirmed town flower because she thinks Al is bluedragon, al replied he wasn't confirmed instead of jumping at the chance to get her role which i assume he would do if he was scum
if that's your reason then change your mind cause I would've done the same thing as scum too

about the whisper thing whats done is done but don't do it anymore

I lost my interest in this game so I m not doing much
 
@LANJI CUCKSMOKE

Your townie meta is slightly off. You are quite pushy as twonie. Case in point is you vs tac on day one few games back when you literally got under his nerves....

But as a scum you are less aggressive and more balanced.

What's holding you back?

Also, whom you sus right now?


It's alright!

What's done is done. This game people are claiming for no reason - First flower then al and now two players whispered their role in a conversion game... it's bad play.

Claiming should be done only when there is utmost need....
I currently hold zara as my main sus for his double slip
and fallen for yesterdays vote on sera which he failed to explain to me evidently
I have questioned my sus
and not being held back by anything.
 

Marimo_420

The Honoured One
OK.


I can understand Flowa and Reborn. You had NW yesterday as either a fool or frustrated townie iirc. What has he done today to make you lean towards town more?

50/50 or scummish for the rest of the players is pretty general. Who are your top sus?


I don't know. Will re-read his posts and you can quote them if you have found them already so we can get a more clear idea.
She came in claiming blue off the bat

Said stuff everyone knows, that light always acts neutral as fuck even if he is scum/town.

Random fluff.

25 minutes after she came in, she gives her reads.

Then goes to sleep.

For me, she's a mixed bag. But im neutral for her for now.

Thats all the usefulll stuff sera did today, before going to sleep. The rest was 3 posts joking around.

Sorrry it took a bit, haha
You get your conclusions from that, sera is kinda susu to me rn
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Got it buddy, been a while since ive seen ya. Hope all is welll!
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Whats that? :noo:
Al jumped on this, i do think i was wrong on kiwi tho as the evidence isnt really there.
Sera made no theory, he came asked for zaras allignement cause he made a joke at him and then said im going to sleep.
Wasn't it about the liking? I am not seeing anything connected to liking here Fuji.

But you might have a point with Flowa. Would like to see more of her as well. Are these all of her posts so far?
Ah gosh, i had the wrong post. Gotta find the one i died about kiwi but mostly i said that she sussed al,reborn,you was kinda gung ho
Then said that sera who i was sussing for just leaving was liking her posts suspecting people, and i said that maybe he slipped up.

Turns out after rereading the sussed reborn off a joke. There was just the al/you think left.
I told her that if she was scum, that sera liking her posts who just ''happened'' to not provide anything usefull to town and then had the excuse of sleep could be scum too. Especially since they liked each others posts. I was then told that it was angleshooting and that its not a fair basis to judge. But i was doing it in conjunction with the weird way kiwi was acting and sera's inactivity. I do believe i was wrong on that one tho.

The thing is i noticed last game the the more the game went on and the more town wasnt sure who scum was, that the people i thought was scum had other people who were confirmed scum liking their posts. That was why i said what i said. That maybe seras made a mistake and liked kiwis suspicious posts. But,again, i think i just jumped the gun on the whole thing.

I am still sus of sera and nw tho. maybe flower but not sure.
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Wasn't it about the liking? I am not seeing anything connected to liking here Fuji.

But you might have a point with Flowa. Would like to see more of her as well. Are these all of her posts so far?[/QUOTE]
Yep, nothing else.

How about sera?[/QUOTE]
He only says that, cause youre just saying fluff. But to me he wasnt being super serious about it.


Still not saying anything.

Then you say light is scum despite him being unreadable rn and acting town. Plus he is king, not much we can do about him as someone else said.
Thats why i find you weird.

There it is. And then i said scum attracts scum, hence the liking of posts, which brought on what i said in the previous post i sent you about sera and all.
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I say if sera plays the same as today and refuses to help/participate he is definitely sus.
You were super low on my sus list like 6th or something, chill and stop the threats. Try to catchup and help out.
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tbh his early posts were just overtly opaque and complicated answer to simple stuff, but then again he does that shit all the time so who knows.
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Yeah, i didnt play with krog much so im relying on other who did, like reborn and lanji.
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I ask you to help out and instead of taking your time and catching up and doing just that you get butthurt because you were in my sus list?

Vote Seraphoenix
You voting me down because i made a ''dumb'' sus even tho you were litteraly 5th or 6h on my list and all i needed from you was contribution after you wake up to clear you for now either screams of butthurt or someone trying to deflect.

I will not be threatened nor get walked over, if you see my quote to you i was acting very politely for you to catchup and help out, and all you did was threaten.

Get over yourself.

Fuji's earlier posts were on both flower and sera but his later ones are just a heated exchange with Sera. This is just a sample. I mistook it for just flower and thought they were in an argument.
This changes things slightly. I don't know if sera being this experienced would risk shutting up Fuji, or scum used it to cast sus on him. I'm quite concerned about him at the moment.


You seem ok for now. I don't know if this is your usual meta but you're actively trying to hunt even though some posts may be a bit aggro.

Reborn asks some deep questions and played like he played in kakeguri so I'm leaning town with him. His scum hunting is ruthless.

Krog and Queen I'm on the fence with. Queen leaning the slightest bit towards town since she's been very active unlike her scummy self. However some of her earlier posts have been questionable.

Beta is being a beta via reverse sussing anyone who suses him so he's town for now.

Kiwi reactions seem genuine to your pushing so she's feeling towish. I don't think she would have reacted that way if she was inseed scum.

Flower I still feel is a bit scummy. Just a gut feeling. Mostly has done a few fluff posts here and there and has 2 posts that are semi decent. Disappeared again.

Sera seemed a bit too hurt at fuji's accusations so I doubt that deflection atm. On the fence with him. I need more.

Fuji is probably the most townie along with reborn since he's been putting in the most work it seems. I don't agree with some of his reads though which he does continually rectify so that's a good sign.

NW seems ok. I don't think he's the fool. If he is he would be more experienced than just to let out a slip. Also his 'slip' was rather thin tbh so Idk why people were sussing him this hard. Question- how exactly does the fool lose? Can he die at night or no?


Cobra seems good for now although these 2 posts contradicts each other.




He wanted to have a shorter first day and claimed claimed day 1 was trash.
But then he went on to say the second quote which directly contradicts what he had been saying up until that point. I don't think he's scum but I'm gonna watch him.



Is that true? So the king if mafia doesn't know about his other mafia teammates? Is it just the normal mafia (e.g. not mafia king) that are aware of each others identify?




He's not going after beta in that sentence. Beta always plays scummy therefore he's town. Thats exactly right lol.
:smart:


@Queen neutral kings cannot exist until they're voted in. Light can either only be mafia or BD since this is the start of the game. I'm leaning towards town due to his role in active scum hunting. He seemed to play like this last game too which he was town.





Other reads-
Lanji seems good. Again he has good scum hunting and seems to ask the right questions.
Fallen Prince is a bit iffy at the moment do idk about him.
Others I've not seen enough off to account for.
Sunita is a blank.
Nope for neutral watcher I've always stuck with frustrated townie and not the fool. I've asked a question on the subject of the role 'fool' but not sused him for being one. A question no one bothered to answer

The answer is - yes the fool can die at night, but he has a limited 2 shot ability that allows him to hide and gain death immunity for 2 NPs.

Also I don't believe the fool even exists in this game. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the fool has the ability to kill at night? So by using the D1 results we can safely say the fool isn't present this game.


My top sus for now is Zera. He is sticking me hard as neutral party due to his mess up on BD. I really do not think it's a typo between Black dragon and Blue dragon. If he's unseen his teammates should have had a rundown talk with him unless he just forgot about it.

Flower was my scummist till I read everyone's comments on how the machanics work. It checks out and she seems the most townie rn, which is why I feel FB is also leaning more towards scum.

I know we joke a lot about his scummy gameplay regardless of alightment but him being adamant that flower is still sus after reading everyones actions last night is kidna off.

Cobra was being hella contidictary yesterday about wanting a shorter day 1 phase while also saying having a short day 1 is bad.

Al sama just seems off for some reason but thats probably just due to reading the posts from other users in the game, rather than my own reads. I can't figure him out.


These are my top sus atm alongside sera due to his exchange with Fuji on day phase 1.

Krog and Fallen Prince I'm still iffy.
The rest seem decent tbh.



I said I wasn't going to ride a bandwagon but Zara's slip is just too much not to ride on.

VOTE ZARA
 
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