Current Events Kuzan Is A Contender For One Piece - Why Oda Doesn’t Care About Swordsmen
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Intriguing. So how exactly does this tie in to the topic of my post?
"Saturn will just have a debate with Vegapunk and won't fight" - @Extravlad
"Saturn will just have a debate with Vegapunk and won't fight" - @Extravlad
Was it confirmed Stainless got defeated? Only recall Crocodile using his DF to fuck up the warships, which he could do with the abilities he showcased at Alabasta.
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These is fax. But he was still stronger than the giant chin mf on a whale ship.
And that's still the best swordsman feats in the manga, duel between Ray and Dracule until Roger came in.
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Rayleigh wasn't on good shape since he wasn'y active for years but from there he started to get some stamina back .
And that's still the best swordsman feats in the manga, duel between Ray and Dracule until Roger came in.
No way you're actually trying to argue Dracule legit wanted to kill Luffy. At the Sametime ignoring luffy surviving a 3vs1 against the Admirals.
This is a terrible argument to use if you're trying to run a Kuzan > Mihawk agenda.
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Ty bro. That solely depends on Fujitora's goals. Which are unknown. Likely he's going to be similar to Dragon, who is there in a small lil panel.
Kuzan had a bigger panel than Dragon = Kuzan more important.
Sabo had a bigger panel equalling Akainu = Sabo above Kuzan/imu/garling/dragon and Akainu's equal.
Koby had a panel similar size to Imu = Koby will go from being a bum to matching up with Imu by final war.
You see bro how dumb narratives can be ran from that panel. Dragon has 0 interest in the One Piece. He had 0 interest in the Throne even though Oda put the RA in the Throne Wars. Weevil and the warlords were put in the Throne wars, people dick rode that, and bam he was a hypetool for GB.
Fujitora had 0 interest in the Throne. Still got put there.
And if Yonkotards decide to be really nasty, one could just play the agenda of Bigger panels > Minor panels below the emperors. Making the Emperors the mainstage of the series, even though Imu/Garling/Marines would directly try to oppose them.
It's a generic page that showed some relevant characters. Trying to run agendas based off of it isn't gonna lead anybody anywhere other than to dumb agenda arguments.
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Thinking Kujaku's inferior is more important than Zoro is crazy.
This is a terrible argument to use if you're trying to run a Kuzan > Mihawk agenda.
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Ty bro. That solely depends on Fujitora's goals. Which are unknown. Likely he's going to be similar to Dragon, who is there in a small lil panel.
Kuzan had a bigger panel than Dragon = Kuzan more important.
Sabo had a bigger panel equalling Akainu = Sabo above Kuzan/imu/garling/dragon and Akainu's equal.
Koby had a panel similar size to Imu = Koby will go from being a bum to matching up with Imu by final war.
You see bro how dumb narratives can be ran from that panel. Dragon has 0 interest in the One Piece. He had 0 interest in the Throne even though Oda put the RA in the Throne Wars. Weevil and the warlords were put in the Throne wars, people dick rode that, and bam he was a hypetool for GB.
Fujitora had 0 interest in the Throne. Still got put there.
And if Yonkotards decide to be really nasty, one could just play the agenda of Bigger panels > Minor panels below the emperors. Making the Emperors the mainstage of the series, even though Imu/Garling/Marines would directly try to oppose them.
It's a generic page that showed some relevant characters. Trying to run agendas based off of it isn't gonna lead anybody anywhere other than to dumb agenda arguments.
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Thinking Kujaku's inferior is more important than Zoro is crazy.
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I disagree, the context of the panel ”it all depends on who will find the OP” is deliberate
4 Yonko who are after the one piece, among other important figures who will one way or another be involved in this race
Leader of Revos
Fleet Admiral
Imu who controls the WG
Sabo whose reputation is rumored to surpass even Dragon’s
Coby the star of the independent marine force directly involved with the Yonko (more important than Drake)
Leader of Holy Knights
New figure
And Kuzan, who is working with Teach and involved directly in the race, running his agenda
Fujitora is definitely gonna play a role in this mess, but his true relevancy to the plot might come later, reforming the Navy for example
This is not saying Kuzan > the other Admirals, not in his crippled state at least
Basically Oda is making it clear that Kuzan‘s actions & agenda will be play a pivotal role in the OP race specifically
This doublespread is a teaser for what is about to come
4 Yonko who are after the one piece, among other important figures who will one way or another be involved in this race
Leader of Revos
Fleet Admiral
Imu who controls the WG
Sabo whose reputation is rumored to surpass even Dragon’s
Coby the star of the independent marine force directly involved with the Yonko (more important than Drake)
Leader of Holy Knights
New figure
And Kuzan, who is working with Teach and involved directly in the race, running his agenda
Fujitora is definitely gonna play a role in this mess, but his true relevancy to the plot might come later, reforming the Navy for example
This is not saying Kuzan > the other Admirals, not in his crippled state at least
Basically Oda is making it clear that Kuzan‘s actions & agenda will be play a pivotal role in the OP race specifically
This doublespread is a teaser for what is about to come
No there are legit reasons to believe the fight won't happen.
Simply because a promise of some sort is made in the series, does not mean that sad promise has to come true. Statements are used for fake suspense all the time in the series.
Narratively, Zoro can establish himself as the WSS, without ever fighting Mihawk.
Simply because a promise of some sort is made in the series, does not mean that sad promise has to come true. Statements are used for fake suspense all the time in the series.
Narratively, Zoro can establish himself as the WSS, without ever fighting Mihawk.
I think you're missing my point here. You're limiting your interpretation of the page to that, because that's what you want the page to mean. You hold those panels of characters in high importance for being important than others down the line in the race to One Piece.
The OP extended his interpretation to meaning the swordsmen aren't cared for by Oda and Kuzan is an actual contender for the OP.
Others extended their interpretation to Koby being the 2nd most important Marine, if not equally as important as Akainu.
I can easily, claim that:
Sabo got a bigger panel than Kuzan + Garling + Koby, so he'll be a bigger factor to the race of One Piece.
Dragon has a smaller panel than Kuzan, Garling, Koby, Sakazuki, Buggy, Sabo, thus he will be less relevant than them.
You are choosing to limit it to that. Others are not. Others are claiming that Koby will be important than bloody Zoro, which is absolutely impossible.
There are claims being made that those who did not appear here will be less important factors than those who did.
My post had nothing to do with believing those who appeared being important to the race of One Piece. My post had to do with implying those who didn't appear being less important, and adding arbitrary values to a page that Oda drew for cool purposes.
The Throne Speeches panel, same shit. People added their headcannons to define the importance of certain panels and what they meant. Karasu/Betty/Lindberg didn't appear there? Ok they're weaker than Morley. RA who has 0 interest in "ruling" is put there. Bonney who has 0 interest in ruling is put there. Hawkins and Apoo who decided to serve Kaido were put there. People made arguments about how Yonko being shown the biggest vs Marine admirals getting a little panel means Yonko > Admirals. Weevil was hyped up due to appearing here, only to serve as GB's hypetool off-panel. Hell people were making arguments for other WorstGen members being as strong/important as Luffy based off of this panel, turns out half of them not even close.
They're nothing more than pages Oda draws for cool/impact purposes. They're some of the important figures in OP world, but that's about it. Trying to run agendas of who is more important than the other based off of a singular page rather than the actual narrative established before this is just dumb to me. Oda in that page included some of the key figures we saw this arc that aren't on Egghead outside of Luffy. Those who we didn't see in this arc, weren't included.
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You do know saying he will and saying he won't are both assumptions right? It's the equivalent of people who were 100% reassuring that ZKK will happen, then got pissy at Oda that it didn't.
Simply because a fight is slated to happen in the future between two characters, does not mean it actually will happen.
The OP extended his interpretation to meaning the swordsmen aren't cared for by Oda and Kuzan is an actual contender for the OP.
Others extended their interpretation to Koby being the 2nd most important Marine, if not equally as important as Akainu.
I can easily, claim that:
Sabo got a bigger panel than Kuzan + Garling + Koby, so he'll be a bigger factor to the race of One Piece.
Dragon has a smaller panel than Kuzan, Garling, Koby, Sakazuki, Buggy, Sabo, thus he will be less relevant than them.
You are choosing to limit it to that. Others are not. Others are claiming that Koby will be important than bloody Zoro, which is absolutely impossible.
There are claims being made that those who did not appear here will be less important factors than those who did.
My post had nothing to do with believing those who appeared being important to the race of One Piece. My post had to do with implying those who didn't appear being less important, and adding arbitrary values to a page that Oda drew for cool purposes.
The Throne Speeches panel, same shit. People added their headcannons to define the importance of certain panels and what they meant. Karasu/Betty/Lindberg didn't appear there? Ok they're weaker than Morley. RA who has 0 interest in "ruling" is put there. Bonney who has 0 interest in ruling is put there. Hawkins and Apoo who decided to serve Kaido were put there. People made arguments about how Yonko being shown the biggest vs Marine admirals getting a little panel means Yonko > Admirals. Weevil was hyped up due to appearing here, only to serve as GB's hypetool off-panel. Hell people were making arguments for other WorstGen members being as strong/important as Luffy based off of this panel, turns out half of them not even close.
They're nothing more than pages Oda draws for cool/impact purposes. They're some of the important figures in OP world, but that's about it. Trying to run agendas of who is more important than the other based off of a singular page rather than the actual narrative established before this is just dumb to me. Oda in that page included some of the key figures we saw this arc that aren't on Egghead outside of Luffy. Those who we didn't see in this arc, weren't included.
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You do know saying he will and saying he won't are both assumptions right? It's the equivalent of people who were 100% reassuring that ZKK will happen, then got pissy at Oda that it didn't.
Simply because a fight is slated to happen in the future between two characters, does not mean it actually will happen.
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