[FNZ] Role Madness Bullet Train Role Madness

[Emil]

Bruh he said he town read flower cause she was uptight and is more loose as scum

Then said it was unfortunate that she was town because her posting is more loose and fun when she is scum

the bolded is something we, the reader, have to make up in order to understand the sentence that way

we can also just as easily make up the continuation by adding the word "here" as i showed above which changes the meaning completely

 

[Emil]

I think 230 am eastern or thereabouts

wont be here then most likely

 

[Polar Bear]

I think 230 am eastern or thereabouts

Looks like 130 based on the countdown Naomi quoted

 

[Pot Goblin]

2 1/2 hours left

 

[Emil]

I quite like the claim restrictions this game it makes it so much more difficult for the game to devolve into "well we cleared these 13 players so now we know all the scum". It is frustrating but in a fun way to have information you cannot elaborate on

whats making it difficult is not claim restriction, its the amount of indies

we have to just guess filthy scum out of filthy indies and we'll be punished if we guess wrong

 

[Polar Bear]

Anyone know what timezone to yo tan is in?

 

[SoulKiller]

let me first preface, pursue means you have at one point questioned said player and had others agreed with you, cud have potentially went ahead and lynched them. i.e, tested the water around them. that's what scum often does. town does that too, but my point here is unlike town, you have only been questioning (pursuing/going after/interacting) with townies. i have no record of you questioning/pursuing flower/indigo to any extent that you have with townies

False, I questioned Indigio(not heavily but I did, dude was barely active) , I questioned crowned witch, I questioned Pot, and I questioned Alexis. But in terms of pushing pushing, I only pushed waston and Alexis. You are twisting it when you say I only been going after townies, that is simply just not true.

I town read flower, and indigio was too inactive to get a read on but was leaning more on scum side.

I never pursued Luka to lynch, we interacted yes but that is how you play the game? you grabbing DP1 read list, when I stated my reasons there and as the game followed my read on luka grew stronger.

Let's take a look at your post ekko

did u intentionally leave out the word "pursued". flipped or pursued

yoho is going to be a town healer, you pursued them / indirectly flipped them
watson is town, you pursued/flipped her
i am town, you pursued me
luka if town wud make it 4 players. not a very good track record. i recall seeing a vote from you on crown witch as well, which is a non mafia player. thats 5 non mafia pushes

what do you got to say about this record?

Does this look genuine to you? It's literally all made up. Non factual. You only have an agenda here.

> you mentioned yoho when he shot you, around the same time flower was saying to shoot him. things like this get amplified when townies read the thread and see multiple people suspecting/questioning one person. it looks bad for you because you were doing exactly what flower was doing, putting heat on yoho.

Ofcourse I am gonna mention him? the dude literally attempted to take my life, it would be odd not to mention him. He RNG'ed that shit and that's not a townie mindset, why you leaving out that information huh?. But you stated that I indirectly flipped him which is not true. I never actually interacted with Yoho.

> you questioned luka first thing in the game, it didnt develop into a scum read because luka stood his ground well, u were forced to town read there, but u still kept it weak. flower was also town reading luka so there was no point to oppose her read at the time when you and luka can both be shelved as tvt. its a net benefit for you if you are scum, and you were able to achieve it by questioning a townie (luka) in a long back and forth

When I interacted with Luka I didn't have a read on him, from that interaction I got a read on him. It's not matter of standing their ground well, it was back and forth discussing multiple things. There was no scummy intentions behind it. I stated that I don't give town reads equally for all people, they can be townie yes but not all in the same strength. You are assuming now the back and forth was because I wanna benefit myself as scum? Let me remind you that conversation was initiated by luka not me. So not sure where you getting this wild idea from that I went after him because flower town read him, what world you living in?

> you voted me out of a whole bunch of nulls and you are pursuing me today. i am not even gonna include my name in that list because i didnt flip yet i from my PoV i know this is another townie that you have voted/interacted with/tested waters around. had more people voted me you'd have 100% continued with it day 1.

I placed my vote on you ekko to get you to participate, not because I want you lynched per say, it was late DP and didn't see anything from you which was odd so I placed my vote on you and pinged you to get your ass in the game. Did that vote really shake your boots? and actually, no I would of not lynched you if more people voted you because I know you are not the afk type. So your 100% assumption is bunch of bs. This is what I mean you are coming with an agenda, you just wanna throw mud my way. Actually I wanted to play with you believe or not hence the vote and the ping. Been a while. You were not an immediate PoE and I am not sure why you think like that. But again, it makes sense if you are thinking from a scum pov and wanna mislynch.

> when did i say you didn't push alexis? i asked you are you going to do something to resolve the alexis PR thing? right now you are pursuing me and pot as your top candidates, my question is why not alexis? it's not the same as saying "you did not push alexis". that's made up by you.

This is exactly how it went, you asked if alexis PR got resolved, I answered you, and then you told me why I am not doing anything about it which indicate you have not read this DP nor the previous DP and also tells me you did not read this DP because I pushed him early this DP, then crowned flipped to be poisoner so switched her vote on her, and then went for pot and he claimed indie. I said multiple times either pot or alexis get the axe today and when pot claimed indie that was wrap. So you assuming I am scum because I did not pursue him is nonsense, hell I was kind enough to reply to your question and you turned it on me somehow like i am scum??? see this irky muddy water you do? you don't see it?

> that's literally what you do in the iso i showed with flower/indigo. legit the only conclusion i got from it is "in short, me and luka are town from flower/indigo's scum flips". if you disagree please feel free to tell me what other conclusion could i have obtained from that post

>Luka looks better for the reasons I mentioned
>Fuji looks better due to him and flower interactions
>Ultra looked better and townie because of it
>Charlie looked better because he was engaging with indigio the most and felt indigio abit frustrated because of it.

Like literally go and read my ISO ekko, so when you come and say that's the only thing you came out of those two ISO you come across as ingenuine and just want to murk the waters.

> i never said they are causing mayhem, i said they optimally would, had you and luka both been town v town, BUT my point was they NEVER caused mayhem which makes it odd for them to read you both 2 townies without contesting it or benefitting from it. why would scum do that unless playing to lose. it doesnt have a strategic benefit to mafia if you and luka are both town.

To pocket players? to get into our good gracious? why you acting like there is one way for them to play for it to make sense? They both looked at two huge wallies going back and forth and knew better not to get invovled. They probably enjoyed it from the back seat.

Although, to your credit I did misread the 'optimally part'.

> bro you never questioned someone's change of read? like it never occurred to you to quote both posts and ask me for elaboration? like how do I know you werent ducking thread when I made my first post and you never bothered coming to thread because it benefited you, but only chose to show up to thread after I changed my read on you?? like even if I changed my read, why do you not question me reading you town even if temporarily? can't I have tmi on you like you say flower/indigo did? are you not curious why my read changed? you seem to only care about me scum reading you, and not how i got there.

I caught up and you already have me as scum the hell do you expect , and you didn't want to have a proper discussion ekko, you just went for the tunnel saying lie after lie, and only answering what is convinent to you. I asked you multiple times if you are caught up and if you read the DP. If you have couple of phases to catch up to, then obviously no point discussing until we are in the same page. Like wtf is kind of logic is that?? Pls don't bring WIFOM into this, this is like me saying you ducked the thread for 3 cycles cause you are a filthy scum. You know better than that. You say why I didn't question your read, when you literally spew inaccurate information my guy, like you just wanna paint red for the sake of painting red. When your case base is just lies then you are not here to resolve a spot, you are here for a specific agenda to muddy the water. You haven't really tried to figure out my slot, and honestly now? no I am not curious for I don't think you are townie, I think you just here to do damage control. I saw how you got there with all that murky water, and lies you mentioned and just wanted to tunnel.

> like how you gon say this when i legitimately swapped read on you twice, does that not look like trying to figure a slot out? let me send this back to you, have you tried to figure my slot? you voted me before i posted and never swapped or came close to swapping read on me. whose tunneling now?

You made it easy for me to figure out your slot by your play this DP and bro you cannot be that hung up about a vote on you in DP1 that was sole purpose was to get you to participate and play. You cannot be serious trying to indicate here that I am the one who is trying to tunnel you here? me placing a vote in DP1, no... DP fucking 0 lol got you worked up this bad?

bro like half of this post is you reading my posts wrong or straight up making shit up and being mad about it, get a grip m8

This statement is just mad... I cannot believe you geniunely believe this ekko, you know the saying when a scum delives too deep into their lies they make it reality in their head? like holy shit.

 

[SoulKiller]

@SoulKiller this post here. You missed a bunch didn't ya?

and what exactly did I miss? I think you are the one who happens not to be reading and missed the post where Orca literally claimed to be townie after saying he is indie.

 

[Pot Goblin]

Anyone know what timezone to yo tan is in?

Seems like he sleeps from 2-3 to 11-12

 

[Pot Goblin]

2-3

Pm

 

[Emil]

False, I questioned Indigio(not heavily but I did, dude was barely active) , I questioned crowned witch, I questioned Pot, and I questioned Alexis. But in terms of pushing pushing, I only pushed waston and Alexis. You are twisting it when you say I only been going after townies, that is simply just not true.

I town read flower, and indigio was too inactive to get a read on but was leaning more on scum side.

I never pursued Luka to lynch, we interacted yes but that is how you play the game? you grabbing DP1 read list, when I stated my reasons there and as the game followed my read on luka grew stronger.

Let's take a look at your post ekko



Does this look genuine to you? It's literally all made up. Non factual. You only have an agenda here.






Ofcourse I am gonna mention him? the dude literally attempted to take my life, it would be odd not to mention him. He RNG'ed that shit and that's not a townie mindset, why you leaving out that information huh?. But you stated that I indirectly flipped him which is not true. I never actually interacted with Yoho.




When I interacted with Luka I didn't have a read on him, from that interaction I got a read on him. It's not matter of standing their ground well, it was back and forth discussing multiple things. There was no scummy intentions behind it. I stated that I don't give town reads equally for all people, they can be townie yes but not all in the same strength. You are assuming now the back and forth was because I wanna benefit myself as scum? Let me remind you that conversation was initiated by luka not me. So not sure where you getting this wild idea from that I went after him because flower town read him, what world you living in?





I placed my vote on you ekko to get you to participate, not because I want you lynched per say, it was late DP and didn't see anything from you which was odd so I placed my vote on you and pinged you to get your ass in the game. Did that vote really shake your boots? and actually, no I would of not lynched you if more people voted you because I know you are not the afk type. So your 100% assumption is bunch of bs. This is what I mean you are coming with an agenda, you just wanna throw mud my way. Actually I wanted to play with you believe or not hence the vote and the ping. Been a while. You were not an immediate PoE and I am not sure why you think like that. But again, it makes sense if you are thinking from a scum pov and wanna mislynch.




This is exactly how it went, you asked if alexis PR got resolved, I answered you, and then you told me why I am not doing anything about it which indicate you have not read this DP nor the previous DP and also tells me you did not read this DP because I pushed him early this DP, then crowned flipped to be poisoner so switched her vote on her, and then went for pot and he claimed indie. I said multiple times either pot or alexis get the axe today and when pot claimed indie that was wrap. So you assuming I am scum because I did not pursue him is nonsense, hell I was kind enough to reply to your question and you turned it on me somehow like i am scum??? see this irky muddy water you do? you don't see it?




>Luka looks better for the reasons I mentioned
>Fuji looks better due to him and flower interactions
>Ultra looked better and townie because of it
>Charlie looked better because he was engaging with indigio the most and felt indigio abit frustrated because of it.

Like literally go and read my ISO ekko, so when you come and say that's the only thing you came out of those two ISO you come across as ingenuine and just want to murk the waters.




To pocket players? to get into our good gracious? why you acting like there is one way for them to play for it to make sense? They both looked at two huge wallies going back and forth and knew better not to get invovled. They probably enjoyed it from the back seat.

Although, to your credit I did misread the 'optimally part'.




I caught up and you already have me as scum the hell do you expect , and you didn't want to have a proper discussion ekko, you just went for the tunnel saying lie after lie, and only answering what is convinent to you. I asked you multiple times if you are caught up and if you read the DP. If you have couple of phases to catch up to, then obviously no point discussing until we are in the same page. Like wtf is kind of logic is that?? Pls don't bring WIFOM into this, this is like me saying you ducked the thread for 3 cycles cause you are a filthy scum. You know better than that. You say why I didn't question your read, when you literally spew inaccurate information my guy, like you just wanna paint red for the sake of painting red. When your case base is just lies then you are not here to resolve a spot, you are here for a specific agenda to muddy the water. You haven't really tried to figure out my slot, and honestly now? no I am not curious for I don't think you are townie, I think you just here to do damage control. I saw how you got there with all that murky water, and lies you mentioned and just wanted to tunnel.




You made it easy for me to figure out your slot by your play this DP and bro you cannot be that hung up about a vote on you in DP1 that was sole purpose was to get you to participate and play. You cannot be serious trying to indicate here that I am the one who is trying to tunnel you here? me placing a vote in DP1, no... DP fucking 0 lol got you worked up this bad?




This statement is just mad... I cannot believe you geniunely believe this ekko, you know the saying when a scum delives too deep into their lies they make it reality in their head? like holy shit.

very good, i got lots of stuff clarified off this. good with you being town

anything very pressing u want me to answer?

 

[Fujishiro]

big chance we figure that out when he flips

This is a lazy answer.

I quite like the claim restrictions this game it makes it so much more difficult for the game to devolve into "well we cleared these 13 players so now we know all the scum". It is frustrating but in a fun way to have information you cannot elaborate on

The best way to play the game imo is for claims to be allowed but to allow scum full fake claims that are strong and the ability to prove them through fake actions.

 

[Fujishiro]

Ultra was suspicious of him, and he was also strangely inactive.

When was he inactive.

 

[Fujishiro]

like who?

Like SK, Polar Bear, The Orca,etc.

 

[Emil]

This is a lazy answer.

if he flips mafia then we'd figure out he just yoloed it

if he flips hostile then we'd figure out he was forced into not claiming indie due to the nature of his wincon

if he flips non hostile we'd figure out that i dont care for the rest of the game

 

[Polar Bear]

and what exactly did I miss? I think you are the one who happens not to be reading and missed the post where Orca literally claimed to be townie after saying he is indie.

Like very important shit. Like the reason he is now claiming to be town

Yep, 1, I become what I take. These double wincon people suck lol

Soulkiller jumping up to the near the top for me. Hell so is Emil but a little less so

 

[Fujishiro]

Mmm might be Carver then?

Possible.

 

[SoulKiller]

I quite like the claim restrictions this game it makes it so much more difficult for the game to devolve into "well we cleared these 13 players so now we know all the scum". It is frustrating but in a fun way to have information you cannot elaborate on

If I go and watch the movie right now I can probably figure out most of the players flavors by their claims. I think soo anyways. Having it non claimable at all would be the best. For people have work around things usually.

 

[Polar Bear]

I'm gonna take a quick little break

 

[Emil]

Like SK, Polar Bear, The Orca,etc.

sk doesnt need my claim, hes giga tunneled. claims wont matter with him, he's looking for things from me and am not offering them up as freebies because i didnt town read him. im ok with engaging more openly now but i dont think claim is what hes looking for

polar/orca i dont think they scum read me, you just made that up rn because of the last few quotes where i misinterpreted orca's post and they got a lil wary