Controversial Is the OP community missing another ZKK?

#41
Maybe you missed Zoro vs Lucci and all the bullshit that spewed from it.

Zoro actually low or mid diffing Lucci.

Lucci being equal or stronger than Kizaru.

And a lot of other stuff I didn't bother to delve into.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#43
Sanji vs Kuzan will happen. I'm not a big Sanji fan but I feel it'll happen
Admiral bros are scared of it because they don't want Kuzan to be confirmed as Whiryu's inferior. When it's confirmed Raiu is a Supreme grade they'll have no choice but to put him as a high top tier, that or they try to make him an exception like they did with Nusjuro...
Two of us are probably the only supporters of Sanji vs Kuzan.
Admiralbros are the last ones who have to worry about Shiryu.
It is Shanksbros, Blackbeardbros and Imubros that have to watch out for Supreme Janitor.
If he ends up even close to what I imagine, that is... :sanmoji:

Zoro actually low or mid diffing Lucci.
Low or mid diff was too high.
One named attack dif is closer to neg dif.
Nothing surprising after Zoro told Lucci - I can end this fight whenever I want.
 
#44
Two of us are probably the only supporters of Sanji vs Kuzan.
Admiralbros are the last ones who have to worry about Shiryu.
It is Shanksbros, Blackbeardbros and Imubros that have to watch out for Supreme Janitor.
If he ends up even close to what I imagine, that is... :sanmoji:


Low or mid diff was too high.
One named attack dif is closer to neg dif.
Nothing surprising after Zoro told Lucci - I can end this fight whenever I want.
It's not so bad. At least Zoro didn't use Purgatory Onigiri, we'd have a leopard jigsaw puzzle then
 
#45
Lucci being equal or stronger than Kizaru.
This is not wrong.

Shanksbros, Blackbeardbros and Imubros that have to watch out for Supreme Janitor.
If he ends up even close to what I imagine, that is...
If Shiryu really comes from Wano, Mihawkbros should be watch out for him too..

Mihawk = World Strongest Swordsman
Wano = always isolated from outside world, the WSS title probably doesn't include Wano.

Remember when Akainu was worried about Wano samurais
People thought he worried about red scabbards or another Odens hiding in Wano.
While in reality, Akainu never met scabbards nor Oden in his entire life, he doesn't know Oden and scabbards' strength.

But he does know Shiryu's strength, because Shiryu was working for Government too.
Akainu was worried there were another Shiryus hiding in Wano, he didn't want sending Kizaru to Shiryu's hometown.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#46
If Shiryu really comes from Wano, Mihawkbros should be watch out for him too..

Mihawk = World Strongest Swordsman
Wano = always isolated from outside world, the WSS title probably doesn't include Wano.

Remember when Akainu was worried about Wano samurais
People thought he worried about red scabbards or another Odens hiding in Wano.
While in reality, Akainu never met scabbards nor Oden in his entire life, he doesn't know Oden and scabbards' strength.

But he does know Shiryu's strength, because Shiryu was working for Government too.
Akainu was worried there were another Shiryus hiding in Wano, he didn't want sending Kizaru to Shiryu's hometown.
I agree with what you are saying, it is possible that Akainu is worried about samurai because of Shiryu.
However, I think Mihawk is a different breed, even compared to Shiryu.
And I rate Shiryu above everyone, except Mihawk and future Zoro.
 
#51
Shiryu wins for now
Zoro will unlock FS against him and it's possible he'll also learn to cut "nothing" as well
FS doesn't work. The reason Teach chose Suke Suke but skipped even Phoenix DF, is because awakened Suke can negate any form of CoO no matter how high level the CoO is. Same way Yami Yami can negate any DF power no matter how high mastery / awakened the DF is.

Someone with great mastery of CoO, for example the one that can predict outcome of dice gambling, might job to Shiryu to prove how overpowered awakened Suke Suke no Mi is.
 

Marimo_420

The Honoured One
#52
You don't need ZKK.

You just need Oda to tell his story properly without 90 percent filler, stalling, and fake out deaths.

It's boring as shit waiting for the plot to move forward when we've been at the same point for 30 chapters.

No one likes One Piece anymore since there's nothing to discuss.
 
#53
Yh... Also, the antagonists in the current arc lack any hype. The admirals and Gorosei look pathetic. Kaido had that "if it's a 1v1 always bet on Kaido" and "Strongest Creature" stuff backing him up. Defeating him was a much bigger deal.
Sure, but Kizaru too had a lot of hype in the beginning. Then Oda did what he did and then came the Gorolames.
And thing Is I even like what Oda did to Kizaru from a character perspective, but then we didn't see even one new named move from him lol. We are struck to the pre-TS moveset and still 90% of the fight was composed of generic lasers.

Now he had to see something of committed Kizaru or this management would be very, very bad.

And from where you came up with Zoro KILLS Kizaru ? you shouldn't believe the few trolls here you know. Oda ain't killing any characters except when they suddenly become terrorists.

Btw Kizaru vs Zoro gonna happen like we claimed, it's just matter of time. During this arc, we literally had Luffy vs Kizaru and the fight didn't end. Even if we saw Luffy having the upper hand, Kizaru wasn't and isn't defeated. So guess for what reason ? He is for Zoro, simple as that.
I'am not against a future fight between Zoro and Kizaru, the opposite really. I have never thought he could happen in this arc for reasons, but I thought a small fight would Indeed happen.


Instead, we got Kizaru not being serious with Luffy (no new named moves, not even the Monkey move, the Sword only used once, etc.) and not wanting to fight and Zoro too not going all out.

Problem Is, I think Oda Is building up a cathartic moment for Kizaru, in which he Will oppose the Goverment. So, even if the survives, I don't think he will be an enemy anymore.
 
#54
FS doesn't work. The reason Teach chose Suke Suke but skipped even Phoenix DF, is because awakened Suke can negate any form of CoO no matter how high level the CoO is. Same way Yami Yami can negate any DF power no matter how high mastery / awakened the DF is.

Someone with great mastery of CoO, for example the one that can predict outcome of dice gambling, might job to Shiryu to prove how overpowered awakened Suke Suke no Mi is.
Maybe... Let's see if any FS users interact with him.
 
#55
Akainu needs to be friends with the strawhats.

He gave luffy more than some fucking usop. What is a cheap ship (we have burnt down two decades ago) compared to a cool scar and growth-inducing trauma.

Before he gets poisoned by Aramaki, Akainu will be rehabilitated. Ace, after all, was a retard and luffy has forgiven worse crimes and criminals.
 

Rej

Holy Simp
#56
No one likes One Piece anymore since there's nothing to discuss.
I like it and every friday I am discussing for hours. I watch gas streams like those from King_Recon.

The only people that dont like One Piece and have issues finding things to discuss are retards or kids. (Or both = retarded twitter clown kids and disillusional Zoro retard-fans)
 
#58
In the last days, i've been feeling like there's something missing here in worst generation
So, after putting on that (actually great) zoro theme that i kinda forgot existed, and then, staring at my computer screen... those three letters came to mind
And i'm not talking about kys, no, i'm talking about three letters that destroyed far more lives when put together:
ZKK

Unless you were living under a rock, you should remember it. The biggest fandom of this forum pieced the evidence together and came to the conclusion that one of the most powerful, if not the most, main antagonists one piece had seen was about to get cut by grandmaster
Needless to say, the very idea of something like this actually happening put the Zoro fandom against pretty much every other one
Against Luffy fandom, because that meant condom boi was about to get cucked by his own subordinate
Against Sanji fandom, because that meant sanji, who never got even close to that roof, would turn out to be pretty much a low diff for zoro
Against Yonko fandom too, etc
The only ones who weren't at odds with this ZKK stuff were the admiral fandom, who we all know is pretty much just a few very dedicated guys

Anyway, in that context, Zoro vs Sanji was some real crazy shit
Iconic users like Zorogang and True God Moe used to strike fear in the heart of any poor soul who stepped up into the battledome section
Admiral Lee Hung memes thread was always filled with slander and any user had to be ready to be featured in it f they wished to be the King of the Powerscalers
The strategy was always doubling down every time an opportunity to do so appeared, some were even already sure that EoS Zoro and Mihawk > Roger by that point
However, either because it didn't make sense or because loda was a hack, the fact is it didn't happen, Luffy just threw a stronger punch like the usual and that was it
and after shittalking pretty much everyone for years, zorofans had completely and utterly lost, and holy shit, that was one of the biggest Ls the one piece fandom had ever seen...

Now we are here, in the present, 2024
And One Piece faces one of the most boring moments of all time, nothing ever happens and every character who isn't luffy (obviously) and jewelry fucking bonney for some reason gets clowned on by loda, even the gorosei who were supposed to be the eos villains were reduced to total pieces of shit
Not even the one piece subreddit is buying this shit
Is there any point in rooting for any character in a scenario like this?
Zoro vs Sanji looks like that "homeless man calls other homeless man a broke ass" meme because both characters have been disappointing and not up to wings of PK standards, with zoro fucking around with lucci while sanji is doing whatever
No one cares about that bootleg einstein giving vague allusions to what the one piss is, it's probably the friends we made along the way or some shit like that, but we who hail from the Battledome know the important part of one piece is powerscaling, what we actually need to know is: who beats who and with what difficulty
however, in this fraudulent current arc that's not possible so no one cares anymore

What we need today is something as big as ZKK, we need hype
Doesn't even need to be about zoro again, perhaps it's time for the half a dozen admiral fans to cook something, idk
What are your guys' thoughts?
Pffft ZKK was a delusion and people who believed it need to consult a psychiatrist. And you wanf similar delusional stuff again?
 
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