Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

this is the situation I m currently in

use subtitles to understand what he is saying

Strenght and courage to you and your family and for those who are fighting in your relatives. This is a horrible.

CNN will gladly take him

CNN ? Eww

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1816183353772761538

Natalism, this is a big thing of fascist regims.

It's always "Save the children!!" with these clowns. How bout fixing the economy so that parents can properly afford having kids. That way you won't have an ever declining birth rate and weakening labor force.

Based

No you don't.

Yup, I do

Watch the video and listen to the information provided. Do you have ADHD? Serious question.

Also learn to spell. It's indeed.

I actually watched the video multiple time to answer you, genius.

How is trans movement even a thing when nobody can ever fully transition given current technology

That's what you think. But its possible.

I'm bored and can't sleep so I'll Answer out of pure curiosity

Looking up the definitions I'm more Idealism

Capitalism is good, If I ran a company I wouldn't want the government to control it especially when I worked so hard to build it up

Capitalism is good the way it is

I have zero problems with any person or their political, religious or personal views I might not fully agree but everyone is entitled to an opinion and I have no problems with them on a personal level

I see Trump as the guy from the apprentice when I think Trump I don't think president Trump I think apprentice Trump

I see Biden as an old grandpa who needs to go to a nursing home

Yeah Sociology is a science it's the study of the brain and behavior plus what else would you label it has? Math?

Yes systematic racism does exist but I don't think it's has prevalent it's more lowkey on the individual levels

No Patriarchy isn't a problem In general but I do think I'd rather hear from a woman discussing women's issues than a man who won't fully understand what they may be going through

If I can write a law? Pedophilia and any sexual crimes should be punishable by death

Toxic Masculinity- I don't mind it in general it's whatever but when people like say Andrew Tate hop online and pass around low iq rhetorics saying you're not a man because you don't fo things this way or because you don't have that can be annoying

It was 109 degrees F every day last week and my eye balls melted everytime I checked the mail global warming sucks

I've never heard this saying but it's probably true politics play some kind of role in every story I can think of

Yes Sex work Is real work, would I want my children to be sex workers oh heavens to Betsy no but they use their skills and bodies to make money it's parasitic work that takes advantage of many lonely men but at the end of the day I'd still consider it work

Police violence is bad but it used to be a lot worse, I do think the media inflates the problem a lot, I'm not saying there isn't a problem with police violence especially here in the states but when all the media shows is the bad the thousands of good cops get lumped in with the bad

After looking up anarchism it seems like an absolutely terrible idea government's keep order, with order comes peace take away the government you take away the order you take away the peace it would be Armageddon

Does Cancel culture scare me? Nope I'm not a celebrity or a public figure who needs to watch what they say or their career would be ruin I'm just a random guy who can say whatever the fuck he wants to say.

100% I agree with Metrirocracy people chosen based on abilities and merits just makes sense

Do I think we should fight for Trans right? I personally don't care if Bobby wants to be Tiffany now that's not my business but Bobby shouldn't be allowed to enter the woman's UFC Division and suplex the women and expect to be praised I also think they should have their own separate category for things like say women of the year, people who are women and been women for their entire lives would do anything for that honor only for a dude named Timothy to win because he decided to be Samantha?


I'm not a woman, I have no kids, never even attempted to make kids but it's each individual persons decision on whether they want to go through with abortion or not, me personally I'd go the adoption root if I'm not ready for a child but I Will never judge another's person decision especially when i don't know the circumstances around it

I think I answered everything, 🤔 answered out of order a bit tho

Interesting.

Some good things here.

Same, I can't put you in the leftist category, simply because you think capitalism is good and should be maintained as it is, because of your idealism and your belief in meritocracy. But you seem quite a progressive rightist so I would put you a bit on the left of @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier . There is also the potential for you to because a leftist ... if you start to understand that sociology is not really the study of the brain, but the study of social structure and human society and, indeed, also human behaviors, relationship and interactions.

The problem in both of you is your belief in meritocracy mainly and the absence of care in front of capitalism.

 

[Adam 🍎]

The problem in both of you is your belief in meritocracy mainly and the absence of care in front of capitalism.

Why should someone who works less than me and worse than me earn same as me?

 

[Natalija]

this is the situation I m currently in

use subtitles to understand what he is saying

You have a female dictator?

 

[Yoho]

Strenght and courage to you and your family and for those who are fighting in your relatives. This is a horrible.


CNN ? Eww



Natalism, this is a big thing of fascist regims.




Based


Yup, I do



I actually watched the video multiple time to answer you, genius.



That's what you think. But its possible.



Interesting.

Some good things here.

Same, I can't put you in the leftist category, simply because you think capitalism is good and should be maintained as it is, because of your idealism and your belief in meritocracy. But you seem quite a progressive rightist so I would put you a bit on the left of @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier . There is also the potential for you to because a leftist ... if you start to understand that sociology is not really the study of the brain, but the study of social structure and human society and, indeed, also human behaviors, relationship and interactions.

The problem in both of you is your belief in meritocracy mainly and the absence of care in front of capitalism.

Oooh interesting

 

[Logiko]

Why should someone who works less than me and worse than me earn same as me?

That's a fallacious question. Let me explain:

1. Wages inequalities are not a representation of a differences in the quality of works in between people. So from the get go, when you say "why should someone who works worse than me earn same as me ?" is problematic. In reality, some works which need more skills and efforts are in reality less retributed than the rest. This is the case of the job of teachers for example. A very important job where skill is highly important and makes the difference between a good and a bad teacher.. and yet.. very poor salaries. Same for job who need more effort (construction jobs, manufacture etc.)

2. This sentence stands on the principle that only people who work less are earning the same as you. When in reality under the belief of meritocracy and capitalism, jobs that demands hours and hours of effort and paid sometimes less than jobs that demand just a few hours.

So in both case, you sentence comes as a denial of the actual reality.

Now, meritocracy is the belief that merit and effort should be able to give you a lot of amount of economic ressources. Its also th belief that poverty happenes because of a lack of skill or just because its just a natural phenomenon.. an unlucky one. But the reality is : There is only a VERY SMALL fraction of people who are seens to have "merit" and are rewarded for their efforts. In the real world, people who wake up at 6 AM to work all day in factories or on a standard desk will not be rewarded for this effort.

In reality those people are seen as "unworthy". And the reason for that is that Meritocracy is not a belief system that is rewarding effort or skill, its a belief system that is rewarding power.

Meritocracy is a belief, its a myth, it never existed. This video explain clearly why :

This is the belief that we all start with the same chances in life, that rights and opportunities are "universal" when in reality, no one has the same chances. We are all products and living alongside our capitals:
- Economic capital : How many money you and your family has. This will usually put your in a specific class of population
- Cultural capital : This is grossly the amount of cultural information you have at your disposal since birth
- Social capital : This is the relationship your family and you will have access to

Those are the main forms of capitals. In function of the difference between those factors, your life will be completely different depending on your situation.

This is why someone who has already a maximization of those capitals at birth will be FAR MORE advantaged than someone who has none.

And this is why meritocracy is not real and will never will be. Those notion completely negates the impact of skill and efforts in the social and economical ascension of a person in life. In other words, you are probably not being payed a good amount of money because you are skilled, but because of your capitals. (even if skill matters, a little little LITTLE bit)

So, why should we keep the inequalities of wages in front of this reality ? Why should we allow a belief system to increase inequalities ?

Why should billionnaires be allowed to accumulate so much wealth in front of this reality ?

 

[AL sama]

You have a female dictator?

I haven't seen a male PM in my entire life lol

 

[Natalija]

I haven't seen a male PM in my entire life lol

 

[Adam 🍎]

That's a fallacious question. Let me explain:

It is not a fallacious question, it is pretty straight forward one

If I work as a doctor, saving human lives left and right and some other person is working as a secretary for some company, why should she be paid same as me?

 

[NAMELESS]

It is not a fallacious question, it is pretty straight forward one

If I work as a doctor, saving human lives left and right and some other person is working as a secretary for some company, why should she be paid same as me?

Its all about envy with these people. They can't accept some people are just better.

 

[Peroroncino]

I haven't seen a male PM in my entire life lol

that's the problem

 

[AL sama]

that's the problem

sexist lol but yeah some changes could help

 

[Logiko]

BTW, I think the Simpsons have been on fire lately (the last two seasons at least) ! So I want to share some of those gems:

Here is the full song (in three part) of the "middle class". One of my favorite :

PART 1:

PART 2:

PART 3 (my fav):

They can't accept some people are just better.

And that's why you will stay a reactionnary mate. You believe in dangerous fairy tails.

If I work as a doctor, saving human lives left and right and some other person is working as a secretary for some company, why should she be paid same as me?

Ok, fair point.

Now, is Elon Musk a doctor ? Does Elon Musk saves lives ?

 

[RebelliousSoma]

Now, is Elon Musk a doctor ? Does Elon Musk saves lives ?

You can't do a fraction of what he did. It also shows by the kind of videos you shared. You are discussing topics you do not understand.

 

[Adam 🍎]

Now, is Elon Musk a doctor ? Does Elon Musk saves lives ?

Elon Musk despite being piece of shit as a person has a company that employs thousands of people. That alone is deserving of higher pay

 

[RebelliousSoma]

Elon Musk despite being piece of shit as a person has a company that employs thousands of people. That alone is deserving of higher pay

Multiple companies.

 

[Logiko]

You can't do a fraction of what he did. It also shows by the kind of videos you shared. You are discussing topics you do not understand.

I touched a nerve it seems.

Elon Musk despite being piece of shit as a person has a company that employs thousands of people. That alone is deserving of higher pay

Oh really ? A higher pay than a doctor ?

Why is that ?

 

[Adam 🍎]

Oh really ? A higher pay than a doctor ?

Why is that ?

Musk prolly has thousand employs and those employs have families. And him creating jobs enables those families to have a living through wages

Also he has a private company, his salary depends on the success of his company, if his company wasn't as successful he wouldn't have a salary as high

Wheres doctors are government employs unless they work in private sector (which most do)

 

[Mathias]

Oh really ? A higher pay than a doctor ?

Why is that ?

Doctors don’t deserve that much money. I swear I have many friends with PhD in humanities and others stuff and none will ever earn as much as a doctor in their lifetime. You may argue it’s a choice. Engineers, lawyers and doctors are still overpaid

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You can't do a fraction of what he did. It also shows by the kind of videos you shared. You are discussing topics you do not understand.

Isn’t he an investor ? Like just a business man ?

 

[Logiko]

Doctors don’t deserve that much money.

I agree.

Musk prolly has thousand employs and those employs have families. And him creating jobs enables those families to have a living through wages

Also he has a private company, his salary depends on the success of his company, if his company wasn't as successful he wouldn't have a salary as high

Wheres doctors are government employs unless they work in private sector (which most do)

Tell me.

What can Elon Musk produce without his employees ?

 

[Adam 🍎]

What can Elon Musk produce without his employees ?

It doesn't matter if he can or can't. He is employer, if worker doesn't wanna work for salary he is offering he will fire them and find a worker that will.

Same way worker can find a job with higher pay an employer can find a worker that would work for less. Both at the end of they day need each other.