Doctors don’t deserve that much money. I swear I have many friends with PhD in humanities and others stuff and none will ever earn as much as a doctor in their lifetime. You may argue it’s a choice. Engineers, lawyers and doctors are still overpaid
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Isn’t he an investor ? Like just a business man ?
Right Doctors themselves make a lot of money because of capitalism to begin with Logiko is going the wrong way to argue anti capitalism
 
Logiko is going the wrong way to argue anti capitalism
No really no lol

I'm pointing exactly where the problem is.

It doesn't matter if he can or can't. He is employer, if worker doesn't wanna work for salary he is offering he will fire them and find a worker that will.
Actually yes it matters a lot. It demonstrates where the skills and where the efforts are. So please answer the question :

What can Elon Musk produce without his employees ?
 
No really no lol

I'm pointing exactly where the problem is.


Actually yes it matters a lot. It demonstrates where the skills and where the efforts are. So please answer the question :

What can Elon Musk produce without his employees ?
You’re going about it the wrong because one can simply say “the market determines the value” and say that a CEO of a company that affects millions of people is more valuable than one single doctor
 
You’re going about it the wrong because one can simply say “the market determines the value” and say that a CEO of a company that affects millions of people is more valuable than one single doctor
Mate. I'm not even there yet.

I'm looking at the very FOUNDATION of the system : the values.

Do you consider it normal that someone exploiting people and therefore producing nothing by himself be paid 1000x more than someone saving lives or people producing value in a system that is supposed to be meritocratic and based on the rewarding of the effort, the merit and the skills ?

:kayneshrug:
 
Mate. I'm not even there yet.

I'm looking at the very FOUNDATION of the system : the values.

Do you consider it normal than someone exploiting people and therefore producing nothing by himself be paid 1000x more than someone saving lives or people producing value in a system that is supposed to be meritocratic and based on the rewarding of the effort, the merit and the skills ?

:kayneshrug:
Anybody with an ounce of knowledge would fight you on the use of “exploiting”
 
Yeah, mostly business owners and liberals.

Which would be logical. Those people are not part of the working class.
I don’t think any serious economist considers labor as exploiting. That is an exclusive Marxist lens of things. You’re trying to argue something while speaking a different language
 
I don’t think any serious economist considers labor as exploiting.
That's really not their job mate.


That is an exclusive Marxist lens of things.
Indeed, its a materialist approach.

Its the understanding of the relationships of domination between the exploitee(d?) (the one producing value) and the exploiting one (the one that is using their labor and production value to enrich themselves and the compagny.)

You’re trying to argue something while speaking a different language
This is not something you can comprehend if you believe in the myth of meritocracy or in idealism mate.

Sorry.

:kayneshrug:

(and yes, this is where I'm the closest to communist ideas)
 
That's really not their job mate.



Indeed, its a materialist approach.

Its the understanding of the relationships of domination between the exploitee(d?) (the one producing value) and the exploiting one (the one that is using their labor and production value to enrich themselves and the compagny.)


This is not something you can comprehend if you believe in the myth of meritocracy or in idealism mate.

Sorry.

:kayneshrug:

(and yes, this is where I'm the closest to communist ideas)
Funny how sociology is a science but economist who’s job is to study the behaviors of humans with labor are not qualified to talk about it LMAO
 
Funny how sociology is a science but economist who’s job is to study the behaviors of humans with labor are not qualified to talk about it LMAO
Like I said, this is a materialist and marxist approach based on the social structure of domination. This is therefore not the job of economy.

This is, on the other hand, one of the job of sociology. You could say that economy could learn a bit from it, but that's another debate.

The point is : There is a relationship and parameters of domination between the one who own the business and the ones who just works there. And the value behind the attribution of wage is one of those parameters.

Again, if an owner does not produce anything, there is no reason for said owner to be paid 3, 10, 100, 1000 times more than the ones who are producing something.

Even if you think that we are in a meritocracy, this fact contradicts said system.
 
You can't do a fraction of what he did. It also shows by the kind of videos you shared. You are discussing topics you do not understand.
He can't clean toilets and yet has solutions for all the problems in the world. Lets ignore this bozo.
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Doctors don’t deserve that much money. I swear I have many friends with PhD in humanities and others stuff and none will ever earn as much as a doctor in their lifetime. You may argue it’s a choice. Engineers, lawyers and doctors are still overpaid
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Isn’t he an investor ? Like just a business man ?
What? Doctors study for decades to acquire their skills.
 
So do writers, philosophers, sociologist, teachers, hell anyone with a PhD
Law of demand,bro. When SHTF, a doctor>>>Philosophy or any humanity subject. Health care is crucial.
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The amount of salt that I can create is really exceptionnal. I should start a business.
You really should, so you can finally move on with your life and heal a little. Get to work.
 
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