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Of course there is a difference if you're poly and are in several relationships and if you're just okay with your gf having multiple partners which would make you a cuck in result.
If you were, you'd just directly tell me "Yeah, I'm poly" instead of moving the goalpost with answers like "weeeeell, I wouldn't like seeing it but there speaks nothing at entertaining this idea". Doesn't seem like you're that confident bro.
1.) Why did you not completely quote my sentence instead of leaving things out?
2.) Oh, so if your friend said "Dude, you finally need fresh air. Go out, try to get a job, try interacting with people", you would view him as a rightist? Come on, don't be ridiculous. It's getting silly.
At least you're trying to give arguments + you are not, aside of your delusions, even toxic.
As long as our posts don't turn into a novel, I can write some posts about left vs right topics, hoping you'd also get my standpoint.
Sure.
Are you not even aware of that?
So you did get my answer to it.
Work hours? At least in Germany, they are still humane in comparison to other countries (looking at you, Japan...).
Minimal wages? Especially due to the inflation, they need to be increased. Everything got far too expensive nowadays.
Union influences? Yep.
Benefits? As in?
Working conditions? It absolutely needs to be kept as a high priority because it is the companies responsibility to protect its employees as well.
Working safety? Same as above.
Public holidays? Ofc.
Pregnancy discrimination acts? Who would be in favour of such things?
Right to refuse unsafe work? Absolutely, especially if the machinery and equipment is way too broken. There are also safety measures which you can sue your company quite extremely btw.
Disability? As in, constructing a disabled friendly architecture? Yep.
Unemployment wages? It's been dealt pretty good in Germany, so you're not immediately fucked if you're getting fired. You get paid a certain percentage of your salary for a year or so.
Social services for people who are unemployed? It depends on the employee who supervises you. Some are just complete assholes while there a genuine people trying to get you on your feet again.
Bullying and sexual harrassment? Bro, it's obvious.
Employment standards? As in?
Hierarchial abuse? For example, your supervisor abusing his authority towards other employees being subordinates to that person? Do you not think it's about that person, rather than the fault of the system? After all, you can also try to report this stuff, with evidence, to the HR if your boss is abusive. Idk how helpful that is, as I wasn't in these kind of situations, thankfully.
Strike rights? Heck, Die Deutschebahn is well known for its strikes, lmao.
Lay-off conditions? As in?
Yes, because they came up with the same rhetoric which you're also using.
You only have the multi millionaires and billionaires in mind but you do not think about all the less wealthy "rich" people who would suffer from such rules as well. You're basically an advocate for oppressing people btw.
Because of that, it's funny how you accuse others of being part of a political spectrum when you openly admitted that you prefered the communism, but with a way to make it better (spoiler: former countries like Yugoslavia already tried but failed).
Wait, wait, wait? What? Who says I'm overlooking genocides?
Do you think I'm okay what happens to the palestinians?
Wasn't Macron a liberal? I read his politics became more right-oriented. So I cannot tell much to it either.
Besides, Germany's current government is left-wing and yet, the far right also got highly increased voting numbers. Do you know why? It's because our politics failed the people extremely hard and most people are fed up with it. I don't vote for them either but I get where they're coming from.
Um, do you not think that the media would be also influenced by the state if they are owned by them?
German media isn't owned by the state and that's why they are independent by their own freedom of speech, freedom of press. It didn't stop the media to be left-winged by the way.
See? What did I just say? No matter what I give as an answer, you already set up your biased opinion about my political stance and branded me as a rightist. Your reasons are also completely idiotic, let's see:
- So me arguing in favour of meritocracy makes me a rightist? Sorry, should I be pro-communism from now on lmfao?
- "for simple social democrat politics", yeah, for putting up 90% taxes of income to your former boss?
- Who says I don't give a shit to oppressions? There is a difference in what I see as oppressions vs you. Maybe you already feel like you're being oppressed here, who knows? You also immediately accused me of not giving a shit to genocides which is just a pure piece of shit move, honestly. My answer was to this question "Do you think that Israel is an apartheid state and that Netanyahou should be arrested ?" where I didn't even have an idea for it. I also care more about what happens in the state where I live, so don't be pretentious, alright?
- I believe economic systems need to work in the first place while everyone gets a chance to be chosen by their skills, education and academics (also, if they have the means which is a negative point btw) and most western countries have it good with capitalism, although there are good and bad parts about it. Communism is just proven to be a failed ideology which gets used by today's countries to oppress the people. You live in your delulu world if you still have beliefs to that.
Sure, everyone doesn't understand a thing about leftism but you. Do you realise how arrogant you just sound like? Do you think I'm some uneducated neandertaler? I was educated about politics like every other person... I might not be politically involved like some other people but I at least know about the structures in our modern world...
Lol what? First of all, I'm definitely pro science, after all, science doesn't lie and you can hardly fake scientific facts. Secondly, it's your radical view about science pointing toward the radical left, you probably mean the gender studies and all that similar stuff but data science, physics, astronomy, geometry, biology, etc. are completely objective, alright? You cannot put subjective topics as ideologies, human rights, oppressions, war and all other related topics into these. They are completely apart of it.
1.) You legit get fed by the government.
2.) How does racism directly affect you, though? It's one thing to stand for others but it's another one if you personally feel threatened and purposely try to fight against it.
3.) Ableism, okay, isn't that basically discrimination towards illiterates?
4.) Patriarchy? Of course this comes from someone who thinks about the possibility of sharing his girl to Mr. rich boy lol. These terms get thrown so much nowadays and it's so idiotic, considering women get publicy no longer discriminated, they have equal votes, equal working rights and equal human rights. Today, it is so much more accepted that a woman also has a high position in a working field, earns very much, or might be the primary breadwinner. That's why there are also more house husbands than way before. Men express their feelings way more, leaving traditional roles behind, etc. Look at countries with actual patriarchy...
5.) LGBTQ+phobia? If you see people being actively discriminated, you sure can stand for it but the system already fights for their rights and in the US, it got ridiculous on so many levels that transwomen were allowed to fight against biological women in MMA and other sports. I think I don't need to explain this to you why this is utterly ridiculous, right?
6.) Antiscientifism? In today's society???
I feel like you're basically shadow boxing, punching air because you're purposely antagonizing an entire system in your head so that you can actively demonstrate against that.
You are trolling, right?
I'm sure, you're just being sarcastic, otherwise I don't know how someone's political side means they're being utterly scientific. Also, we talk about politics, huge clashes of several ideologies and you tell me, I just need to bring "reliable proof" which contradict yours? Mate, you cannot be serious about that. Most of these discussions are just about pointing their fingers at each other and blaming each side for whatever reasons, there will never be a good conclusion because y'all are ready having your intellectual fights.
You're participating in an online international forum. That's no social interaction, lmao.
You could very well be a complete neet, shutting yourself up in your room and only have interactions with strangers on the internet. Obviously, that's not what I meant with having zero influence to society. Like, do you hang out with friends? Do you go to the gym? Other kind of outdoor or indoor activities which do not really involve the internet?
Or you probably mean "That's the mind of someone who has a clear goal in life and works for it", that's not the mind of a capitalist. How much copium is even that bruh??? Look bro, aside of being unemployed and discussing in forums and Twitter, what do you do? How can you tell you are participating in society when there is none to it. Zero is zero. Logiko, you're just deluding yourself over it, please be real.
Nope, you're definitely not.
@Reborn, @RayanOO, @Adam 🍎, @Mathias, @Natalija, one question: Am I just chatting complete shit rn? Like, is it participation in society when I'm talking to you guys without doing anything irl? Maybe I'm misunderstanding this whole thing, so I need to read your input over it.
Are you expecting them to pay you even more for doing nothing? Come on, man...
How ridiculous, does your country turn into another dictatorship or a hellhole full of oppression and violence?
You wouldn't care about it either way if I was caring more about outside oppressions. As for that, I definitely care about it but what am I gonna do about it? I have virtually no influence over it, or is it better if I write essays in Twitter about it? I'm sure this will definitely convince those countries to stop their attrocious acts. You need to get real.
Well, I finally understand how annoyed people were with my posts when I quoted incomplete sentences like that, cutting off complete words because this sure is annoying for me as well.
Well, back to topic:
1.) Ah, alright. So you want to tax Elon Musk nearly 90% of his income. Alright, lol.
2.) Interesting, where are the statistics, the data? You talk about the filthy riches but I'm obviously talking about the bigger picture here.
3.) You hate capitalism and support a system where the state has much more influence over company owners. Sorry, but this is a much more serious issue, which would occur, which affects a lot of these people. It'd easily outscale the percentage of people you want to have less money over, not to mention that corrupted states would EASILY use this kind of system for their own benefits.
4.) You completely missed my point. A smaller Trump obviously has less influence over it. An abusive small boss exploits his subordinates but on a bigger scale, he's just a small fry and more dependant on his workers than you might think.
It's bad that you had very negative experience with your working field but why didn't you try other jobs where the employer isn't a big piece of shit like your former manager? Don't let this experience encapsulate you like that.
Bro's now being extra dramatic...
Average redditor be like.
If you were, you'd just directly tell me "Yeah, I'm poly" instead of moving the goalpost with answers like "weeeeell, I wouldn't like seeing it but there speaks nothing at entertaining this idea". Doesn't seem like you're that confident bro.
1.) Why did you not completely quote my sentence instead of leaving things out?
2.) Oh, so if your friend said "Dude, you finally need fresh air. Go out, try to get a job, try interacting with people", you would view him as a rightist? Come on, don't be ridiculous. It's getting silly.
At least you're trying to give arguments + you are not, aside of your delusions, even toxic.
As long as our posts don't turn into a novel, I can write some posts about left vs right topics, hoping you'd also get my standpoint.
Sure.
Are you not even aware of that?
So you did get my answer to it.
Work hours? At least in Germany, they are still humane in comparison to other countries (looking at you, Japan...).
Minimal wages? Especially due to the inflation, they need to be increased. Everything got far too expensive nowadays.
Union influences? Yep.
Benefits? As in?
Working conditions? It absolutely needs to be kept as a high priority because it is the companies responsibility to protect its employees as well.
Working safety? Same as above.
Public holidays? Ofc.
Pregnancy discrimination acts? Who would be in favour of such things?
Right to refuse unsafe work? Absolutely, especially if the machinery and equipment is way too broken. There are also safety measures which you can sue your company quite extremely btw.
Disability? As in, constructing a disabled friendly architecture? Yep.
Unemployment wages? It's been dealt pretty good in Germany, so you're not immediately fucked if you're getting fired. You get paid a certain percentage of your salary for a year or so.
Social services for people who are unemployed? It depends on the employee who supervises you. Some are just complete assholes while there a genuine people trying to get you on your feet again.
Bullying and sexual harrassment? Bro, it's obvious.
Employment standards? As in?
Hierarchial abuse? For example, your supervisor abusing his authority towards other employees being subordinates to that person? Do you not think it's about that person, rather than the fault of the system? After all, you can also try to report this stuff, with evidence, to the HR if your boss is abusive. Idk how helpful that is, as I wasn't in these kind of situations, thankfully.
Strike rights? Heck, Die Deutschebahn is well known for its strikes, lmao.
Lay-off conditions? As in?
Yes, because they came up with the same rhetoric which you're also using.
You only have the multi millionaires and billionaires in mind but you do not think about all the less wealthy "rich" people who would suffer from such rules as well. You're basically an advocate for oppressing people btw.
Because of that, it's funny how you accuse others of being part of a political spectrum when you openly admitted that you prefered the communism, but with a way to make it better (spoiler: former countries like Yugoslavia already tried but failed).
Wait, wait, wait? What? Who says I'm overlooking genocides?
Do you think I'm okay what happens to the palestinians?
Wasn't Macron a liberal? I read his politics became more right-oriented. So I cannot tell much to it either.
Besides, Germany's current government is left-wing and yet, the far right also got highly increased voting numbers. Do you know why? It's because our politics failed the people extremely hard and most people are fed up with it. I don't vote for them either but I get where they're coming from.
Um, do you not think that the media would be also influenced by the state if they are owned by them?
German media isn't owned by the state and that's why they are independent by their own freedom of speech, freedom of press. It didn't stop the media to be left-winged by the way.
See? What did I just say? No matter what I give as an answer, you already set up your biased opinion about my political stance and branded me as a rightist. Your reasons are also completely idiotic, let's see:
- So me arguing in favour of meritocracy makes me a rightist? Sorry, should I be pro-communism from now on lmfao?
- "for simple social democrat politics", yeah, for putting up 90% taxes of income to your former boss?
- Who says I don't give a shit to oppressions? There is a difference in what I see as oppressions vs you. Maybe you already feel like you're being oppressed here, who knows? You also immediately accused me of not giving a shit to genocides which is just a pure piece of shit move, honestly. My answer was to this question "Do you think that Israel is an apartheid state and that Netanyahou should be arrested ?" where I didn't even have an idea for it. I also care more about what happens in the state where I live, so don't be pretentious, alright?
- I believe economic systems need to work in the first place while everyone gets a chance to be chosen by their skills, education and academics (also, if they have the means which is a negative point btw) and most western countries have it good with capitalism, although there are good and bad parts about it. Communism is just proven to be a failed ideology which gets used by today's countries to oppress the people. You live in your delulu world if you still have beliefs to that.
Sure, everyone doesn't understand a thing about leftism but you. Do you realise how arrogant you just sound like? Do you think I'm some uneducated neandertaler? I was educated about politics like every other person... I might not be politically involved like some other people but I at least know about the structures in our modern world...
Lol what? First of all, I'm definitely pro science, after all, science doesn't lie and you can hardly fake scientific facts. Secondly, it's your radical view about science pointing toward the radical left, you probably mean the gender studies and all that similar stuff but data science, physics, astronomy, geometry, biology, etc. are completely objective, alright? You cannot put subjective topics as ideologies, human rights, oppressions, war and all other related topics into these. They are completely apart of it.
1.) You legit get fed by the government.
2.) How does racism directly affect you, though? It's one thing to stand for others but it's another one if you personally feel threatened and purposely try to fight against it.
3.) Ableism, okay, isn't that basically discrimination towards illiterates?
4.) Patriarchy? Of course this comes from someone who thinks about the possibility of sharing his girl to Mr. rich boy lol. These terms get thrown so much nowadays and it's so idiotic, considering women get publicy no longer discriminated, they have equal votes, equal working rights and equal human rights. Today, it is so much more accepted that a woman also has a high position in a working field, earns very much, or might be the primary breadwinner. That's why there are also more house husbands than way before. Men express their feelings way more, leaving traditional roles behind, etc. Look at countries with actual patriarchy...
5.) LGBTQ+phobia? If you see people being actively discriminated, you sure can stand for it but the system already fights for their rights and in the US, it got ridiculous on so many levels that transwomen were allowed to fight against biological women in MMA and other sports. I think I don't need to explain this to you why this is utterly ridiculous, right?
6.) Antiscientifism? In today's society???
I feel like you're basically shadow boxing, punching air because you're purposely antagonizing an entire system in your head so that you can actively demonstrate against that.
You are trolling, right?
I'm sure, you're just being sarcastic, otherwise I don't know how someone's political side means they're being utterly scientific. Also, we talk about politics, huge clashes of several ideologies and you tell me, I just need to bring "reliable proof" which contradict yours? Mate, you cannot be serious about that. Most of these discussions are just about pointing their fingers at each other and blaming each side for whatever reasons, there will never be a good conclusion because y'all are ready having your intellectual fights.
You're participating in an online international forum. That's no social interaction, lmao.
You could very well be a complete neet, shutting yourself up in your room and only have interactions with strangers on the internet. Obviously, that's not what I meant with having zero influence to society. Like, do you hang out with friends? Do you go to the gym? Other kind of outdoor or indoor activities which do not really involve the internet?
Or you probably mean "That's the mind of someone who has a clear goal in life and works for it", that's not the mind of a capitalist. How much copium is even that bruh??? Look bro, aside of being unemployed and discussing in forums and Twitter, what do you do? How can you tell you are participating in society when there is none to it. Zero is zero. Logiko, you're just deluding yourself over it, please be real.
Nope, you're definitely not.
@Reborn, @RayanOO, @Adam 🍎, @Mathias, @Natalija, one question: Am I just chatting complete shit rn? Like, is it participation in society when I'm talking to you guys without doing anything irl? Maybe I'm misunderstanding this whole thing, so I need to read your input over it.
Are you expecting them to pay you even more for doing nothing? Come on, man...
How ridiculous, does your country turn into another dictatorship or a hellhole full of oppression and violence?
You wouldn't care about it either way if I was caring more about outside oppressions. As for that, I definitely care about it but what am I gonna do about it? I have virtually no influence over it, or is it better if I write essays in Twitter about it? I'm sure this will definitely convince those countries to stop their attrocious acts. You need to get real.
Well, I finally understand how annoyed people were with my posts when I quoted incomplete sentences like that, cutting off complete words because this sure is annoying for me as well.
Well, back to topic:
1.) Ah, alright. So you want to tax Elon Musk nearly 90% of his income. Alright, lol.
2.) Interesting, where are the statistics, the data? You talk about the filthy riches but I'm obviously talking about the bigger picture here.
3.) You hate capitalism and support a system where the state has much more influence over company owners. Sorry, but this is a much more serious issue, which would occur, which affects a lot of these people. It'd easily outscale the percentage of people you want to have less money over, not to mention that corrupted states would EASILY use this kind of system for their own benefits.
4.) You completely missed my point. A smaller Trump obviously has less influence over it. An abusive small boss exploits his subordinates but on a bigger scale, he's just a small fry and more dependant on his workers than you might think.
It's bad that you had very negative experience with your working field but why didn't you try other jobs where the employer isn't a big piece of shit like your former manager? Don't let this experience encapsulate you like that.
Bro's now being extra dramatic...
Average redditor be like.
Of course there is a difference if you're poly and are in several relationships and if you're just okay with your gf having multiple partners which would make you a cuck in result.
If you were, you'd just directly tell me "Yeah, I'm poly" instead of moving the goalpost with answers like "weeeeell, I wouldn't like seeing it but there speaks nothing at entertaining this idea". Doesn't seem like you're that confident bro.
1.) Why did you not completely quote my sentence instead of leaving things out?
2.) Oh, so if your friend said "Dude, you finally need fresh air. Go out, try to get a job, try interacting with people", you would view him as a rightist? Come on, don't be ridiculous. It's getting silly.
At least you're trying to give arguments + you are not, aside of your delusions, even toxic.
As long as our posts don't turn into a novel, I can write some posts about left vs right topics, hoping you'd also get my standpoint.
Sure.
Are you not even aware of that?
So you did get my answer to it.
Work hours? At least in Germany, they are still humane in comparison to other countries (looking at you, Japan...).
Minimal wages? Especially due to the inflation, they need to be increased. Everything got far too expensive nowadays.
Union influences? Yep.
Benefits? As in?
Working conditions? It absolutely needs to be kept as a high priority because it is the companies responsibility to protect its employees as well.
Working safety? Same as above.
Public holidays? Ofc.
Pregnancy discrimination acts? Who would be in favour of such things?
Right to refuse unsafe work? Absolutely, especially if the machinery and equipment is way too broken. There are also safety measures which you can sue your company quite extremely btw.
Disability? As in, constructing a disabled friendly architecture? Yep.
Unemployment wages? It's been dealt pretty good in Germany, so you're not immediately fucked if you're getting fired. You get paid a certain percentage of your salary for a year or so.
Social services for people who are unemployed? It depends on the employee who supervises you. Some are just complete assholes while there a genuine people trying to get you on your feet again.
Bullying and sexual harrassment? Bro, it's obvious.
Employment standards? As in?
Hierarchial abuse? For example, your supervisor abusing his authority towards other employees being subordinates to that person? Do you not think it's about that person, rather than the fault of the system? After all, you can also try to report this stuff, with evidence, to the HR if your boss is abusive. Idk how helpful that is, as I wasn't in these kind of situations, thankfully.
Strike rights? Heck, Die Deutschebahn is well known for its strikes, lmao.
Lay-off conditions? As in?
Yes, because they came up with the same rhetoric which you're also using.
You only have the multi millionaires and billionaires in mind but you do not think about all the less wealthy "rich" people who would suffer from such rules as well. You're basically an advocate for oppressing people btw.
Because of that, it's funny how you accuse others of being part of a political spectrum when you openly admitted that you prefered the communism, but with a way to make it better (spoiler: former countries like Yugoslavia already tried but failed).
Wait, wait, wait? What? Who says I'm overlooking genocides?
Do you think I'm okay what happens to the palestinians?
Wasn't Macron a liberal? I read his politics became more right-oriented. So I cannot tell much to it either.
Besides, Germany's current government is left-wing and yet, the far right also got highly increased voting numbers. Do you know why? It's because our politics failed the people extremely hard and most people are fed up with it. I don't vote for them either but I get where they're coming from.
Um, do you not think that the media would be also influenced by the state if they are owned by them?
German media isn't owned by the state and that's why they are independent by their own freedom of speech, freedom of press. It didn't stop the media to be left-winged by the way.
See? What did I just say? No matter what I give as an answer, you already set up your biased opinion about my political stance and branded me as a rightist. Your reasons are also completely idiotic, let's see:
- So me arguing in favour of meritocracy makes me a rightist? Sorry, should I be pro-communism from now on lmfao?
- "for simple social democrat politics", yeah, for putting up 90% taxes of income to your former boss?
- Who says I don't give a shit to oppressions? There is a difference in what I see as oppressions vs you. Maybe you already feel like you're being oppressed here, who knows? You also immediately accused me of not giving a shit to genocides which is just a pure piece of shit move, honestly. My answer was to this question "Do you think that Israel is an apartheid state and that Netanyahou should be arrested ?" where I didn't even have an idea for it. I also care more about what happens in the state where I live, so don't be pretentious, alright?
- I believe economic systems need to work in the first place while everyone gets a chance to be chosen by their skills, education and academics (also, if they have the means which is a negative point btw) and most western countries have it good with capitalism, although there are good and bad parts about it. Communism is just proven to be a failed ideology which gets used by today's countries to oppress the people. You live in your delulu world if you still have beliefs to that.
Sure, everyone doesn't understand a thing about leftism but you. Do you realise how arrogant you just sound like? Do you think I'm some uneducated neandertaler? I was educated about politics like every other person... I might not be politically involved like some other people but I at least know about the structures in our modern world...
Lol what? First of all, I'm definitely pro science, after all, science doesn't lie and you can hardly fake scientific facts. Secondly, it's your radical view about science pointing toward the radical left, you probably mean the gender studies and all that similar stuff but data science, physics, astronomy, geometry, biology, etc. are completely objective, alright? You cannot put subjective topics as ideologies, human rights, oppressions, war and all other related topics into these. They are completely apart of it.
1.) You legit get fed by the government.
2.) How does racism directly affect you, though? It's one thing to stand for others but it's another one if you personally feel threatened and purposely try to fight against it.
3.) Ableism, okay, isn't that basically discrimination towards illiterates?
4.) Patriarchy? Of course this comes from someone who thinks about the possibility of sharing his girl to Mr. rich boy lol. These terms get thrown so much nowadays and it's so idiotic, considering women get publicy no longer discriminated, they have equal votes, equal working rights and equal human rights. Today, it is so much more accepted that a woman also has a high position in a working field, earns very much, or might be the primary breadwinner. That's why there are also more house husbands than way before. Men express their feelings way more, leaving traditional roles behind, etc. Look at countries with actual patriarchy...
5.) LGBTQ+phobia? If you see people being actively discriminated, you sure can stand for it but the system already fights for their rights and in the US, it got ridiculous on so many levels that transwomen were allowed to fight against biological women in MMA and other sports. I think I don't need to explain this to you why this is utterly ridiculous, right?
6.) Antiscientifism? In today's society???
I feel like you're basically shadow boxing, punching air because you're purposely antagonizing an entire system in your head so that you can actively demonstrate against that.
You are trolling, right?
I'm sure, you're just being sarcastic, otherwise I don't know how someone's political side means they're being utterly scientific. Also, we talk about politics, huge clashes of several ideologies and you tell me, I just need to bring "reliable proof" which contradict yours? Mate, you cannot be serious about that. Most of these discussions are just about pointing their fingers at each other and blaming each side for whatever reasons, there will never be a good conclusion because y'all are ready having your intellectual fights.
You're participating in an online international forum. That's no social interaction, lmao.
You could very well be a complete neet, shutting yourself up in your room and only have interactions with strangers on the internet. Obviously, that's not what I meant with having zero influence to society. Like, do you hang out with friends? Do you go to the gym? Other kind of outdoor or indoor activities which do not really involve the internet?
Or you probably mean "That's the mind of someone who has a clear goal in life and works for it", that's not the mind of a capitalist. How much copium is even that bruh??? Look bro, aside of being unemployed and discussing in forums and Twitter, what do you do? How can you tell you are participating in society when there is none to it. Zero is zero. Logiko, you're just deluding yourself over it, please be real.
Nope, you're definitely not.
@Reborn, @RayanOO, @Adam 🍎, @Mathias, @Natalija, one question: Am I just chatting complete shit rn? Like, is it participation in society when I'm talking to you guys without doing anything irl? Maybe I'm misunderstanding this whole thing, so I need to read your input over it.
Are you expecting them to pay you even more for doing nothing? Come on, man...
How ridiculous, does your country turn into another dictatorship or a hellhole full of oppression and violence?
You wouldn't care about it either way if I was caring more about outside oppressions. As for that, I definitely care about it but what am I gonna do about it? I have virtually no influence over it, or is it better if I write essays in Twitter about it? I'm sure this will definitely convince those countries to stop their attrocious acts. You need to get real.
Well, I finally understand how annoyed people were with my posts when I quoted incomplete sentences like that, cutting off complete words because this sure is annoying for me as well.
Well, back to topic:
1.) Ah, alright. So you want to tax Elon Musk nearly 90% of his income. Alright, lol.
2.) Interesting, where are the statistics, the data? You talk about the filthy riches but I'm obviously talking about the bigger picture here.
3.) You hate capitalism and support a system where the state has much more influence over company owners. Sorry, but this is a much more serious issue, which would occur, which affects a lot of these people. It'd easily outscale the percentage of people you want to have less money over, not to mention that corrupted states would EASILY use this kind of system for their own benefits.
4.) You completely missed my point. A smaller Trump obviously has less influence over it. An abusive small boss exploits his subordinates but on a bigger scale, he's just a small fry and more dependant on his workers than you might think.
It's bad that you had very negative experience with your working field but why didn't you try other jobs where the employer isn't a big piece of shit like your former manager? Don't let this experience encapsulate you like that.
Bro's now being extra dramatic...
Average redditor be like.
If you were, you'd just directly tell me "Yeah, I'm poly" instead of moving the goalpost with answers like "weeeeell, I wouldn't like seeing it but there speaks nothing at entertaining this idea". Doesn't seem like you're that confident bro.
1.) Why did you not completely quote my sentence instead of leaving things out?
2.) Oh, so if your friend said "Dude, you finally need fresh air. Go out, try to get a job, try interacting with people", you would view him as a rightist? Come on, don't be ridiculous. It's getting silly.
At least you're trying to give arguments + you are not, aside of your delusions, even toxic.
As long as our posts don't turn into a novel, I can write some posts about left vs right topics, hoping you'd also get my standpoint.
Sure.
Are you not even aware of that?
So you did get my answer to it.
Work hours? At least in Germany, they are still humane in comparison to other countries (looking at you, Japan...).
Minimal wages? Especially due to the inflation, they need to be increased. Everything got far too expensive nowadays.
Union influences? Yep.
Benefits? As in?
Working conditions? It absolutely needs to be kept as a high priority because it is the companies responsibility to protect its employees as well.
Working safety? Same as above.
Public holidays? Ofc.
Pregnancy discrimination acts? Who would be in favour of such things?
Right to refuse unsafe work? Absolutely, especially if the machinery and equipment is way too broken. There are also safety measures which you can sue your company quite extremely btw.
Disability? As in, constructing a disabled friendly architecture? Yep.
Unemployment wages? It's been dealt pretty good in Germany, so you're not immediately fucked if you're getting fired. You get paid a certain percentage of your salary for a year or so.
Social services for people who are unemployed? It depends on the employee who supervises you. Some are just complete assholes while there a genuine people trying to get you on your feet again.
Bullying and sexual harrassment? Bro, it's obvious.
Employment standards? As in?
Hierarchial abuse? For example, your supervisor abusing his authority towards other employees being subordinates to that person? Do you not think it's about that person, rather than the fault of the system? After all, you can also try to report this stuff, with evidence, to the HR if your boss is abusive. Idk how helpful that is, as I wasn't in these kind of situations, thankfully.
Strike rights? Heck, Die Deutschebahn is well known for its strikes, lmao.
Lay-off conditions? As in?
Yes, because they came up with the same rhetoric which you're also using.
You only have the multi millionaires and billionaires in mind but you do not think about all the less wealthy "rich" people who would suffer from such rules as well. You're basically an advocate for oppressing people btw.
Because of that, it's funny how you accuse others of being part of a political spectrum when you openly admitted that you prefered the communism, but with a way to make it better (spoiler: former countries like Yugoslavia already tried but failed).
Wait, wait, wait? What? Who says I'm overlooking genocides?
Do you think I'm okay what happens to the palestinians?
Wasn't Macron a liberal? I read his politics became more right-oriented. So I cannot tell much to it either.
Besides, Germany's current government is left-wing and yet, the far right also got highly increased voting numbers. Do you know why? It's because our politics failed the people extremely hard and most people are fed up with it. I don't vote for them either but I get where they're coming from.
Um, do you not think that the media would be also influenced by the state if they are owned by them?
German media isn't owned by the state and that's why they are independent by their own freedom of speech, freedom of press. It didn't stop the media to be left-winged by the way.
See? What did I just say? No matter what I give as an answer, you already set up your biased opinion about my political stance and branded me as a rightist. Your reasons are also completely idiotic, let's see:
- So me arguing in favour of meritocracy makes me a rightist? Sorry, should I be pro-communism from now on lmfao?
- "for simple social democrat politics", yeah, for putting up 90% taxes of income to your former boss?
- Who says I don't give a shit to oppressions? There is a difference in what I see as oppressions vs you. Maybe you already feel like you're being oppressed here, who knows? You also immediately accused me of not giving a shit to genocides which is just a pure piece of shit move, honestly. My answer was to this question "Do you think that Israel is an apartheid state and that Netanyahou should be arrested ?" where I didn't even have an idea for it. I also care more about what happens in the state where I live, so don't be pretentious, alright?
- I believe economic systems need to work in the first place while everyone gets a chance to be chosen by their skills, education and academics (also, if they have the means which is a negative point btw) and most western countries have it good with capitalism, although there are good and bad parts about it. Communism is just proven to be a failed ideology which gets used by today's countries to oppress the people. You live in your delulu world if you still have beliefs to that.
Sure, everyone doesn't understand a thing about leftism but you. Do you realise how arrogant you just sound like? Do you think I'm some uneducated neandertaler? I was educated about politics like every other person... I might not be politically involved like some other people but I at least know about the structures in our modern world...
Lol what? First of all, I'm definitely pro science, after all, science doesn't lie and you can hardly fake scientific facts. Secondly, it's your radical view about science pointing toward the radical left, you probably mean the gender studies and all that similar stuff but data science, physics, astronomy, geometry, biology, etc. are completely objective, alright? You cannot put subjective topics as ideologies, human rights, oppressions, war and all other related topics into these. They are completely apart of it.
1.) You legit get fed by the government.
2.) How does racism directly affect you, though? It's one thing to stand for others but it's another one if you personally feel threatened and purposely try to fight against it.
3.) Ableism, okay, isn't that basically discrimination towards illiterates?
4.) Patriarchy? Of course this comes from someone who thinks about the possibility of sharing his girl to Mr. rich boy lol. These terms get thrown so much nowadays and it's so idiotic, considering women get publicy no longer discriminated, they have equal votes, equal working rights and equal human rights. Today, it is so much more accepted that a woman also has a high position in a working field, earns very much, or might be the primary breadwinner. That's why there are also more house husbands than way before. Men express their feelings way more, leaving traditional roles behind, etc. Look at countries with actual patriarchy...
5.) LGBTQ+phobia? If you see people being actively discriminated, you sure can stand for it but the system already fights for their rights and in the US, it got ridiculous on so many levels that transwomen were allowed to fight against biological women in MMA and other sports. I think I don't need to explain this to you why this is utterly ridiculous, right?
6.) Antiscientifism? In today's society???
I feel like you're basically shadow boxing, punching air because you're purposely antagonizing an entire system in your head so that you can actively demonstrate against that.
You are trolling, right?
I'm sure, you're just being sarcastic, otherwise I don't know how someone's political side means they're being utterly scientific. Also, we talk about politics, huge clashes of several ideologies and you tell me, I just need to bring "reliable proof" which contradict yours? Mate, you cannot be serious about that. Most of these discussions are just about pointing their fingers at each other and blaming each side for whatever reasons, there will never be a good conclusion because y'all are ready having your intellectual fights.
You're participating in an online international forum. That's no social interaction, lmao.
You could very well be a complete neet, shutting yourself up in your room and only have interactions with strangers on the internet. Obviously, that's not what I meant with having zero influence to society. Like, do you hang out with friends? Do you go to the gym? Other kind of outdoor or indoor activities which do not really involve the internet?
Or you probably mean "That's the mind of someone who has a clear goal in life and works for it", that's not the mind of a capitalist. How much copium is even that bruh??? Look bro, aside of being unemployed and discussing in forums and Twitter, what do you do? How can you tell you are participating in society when there is none to it. Zero is zero. Logiko, you're just deluding yourself over it, please be real.
Nope, you're definitely not.
@Reborn, @RayanOO, @Adam 🍎, @Mathias, @Natalija, one question: Am I just chatting complete shit rn? Like, is it participation in society when I'm talking to you guys without doing anything irl? Maybe I'm misunderstanding this whole thing, so I need to read your input over it.
Are you expecting them to pay you even more for doing nothing? Come on, man...
How ridiculous, does your country turn into another dictatorship or a hellhole full of oppression and violence?
You wouldn't care about it either way if I was caring more about outside oppressions. As for that, I definitely care about it but what am I gonna do about it? I have virtually no influence over it, or is it better if I write essays in Twitter about it? I'm sure this will definitely convince those countries to stop their attrocious acts. You need to get real.
Well, I finally understand how annoyed people were with my posts when I quoted incomplete sentences like that, cutting off complete words because this sure is annoying for me as well.
Well, back to topic:
1.) Ah, alright. So you want to tax Elon Musk nearly 90% of his income. Alright, lol.
2.) Interesting, where are the statistics, the data? You talk about the filthy riches but I'm obviously talking about the bigger picture here.
3.) You hate capitalism and support a system where the state has much more influence over company owners. Sorry, but this is a much more serious issue, which would occur, which affects a lot of these people. It'd easily outscale the percentage of people you want to have less money over, not to mention that corrupted states would EASILY use this kind of system for their own benefits.
4.) You completely missed my point. A smaller Trump obviously has less influence over it. An abusive small boss exploits his subordinates but on a bigger scale, he's just a small fry and more dependant on his workers than you might think.
It's bad that you had very negative experience with your working field but why didn't you try other jobs where the employer isn't a big piece of shit like your former manager? Don't let this experience encapsulate you like that.
Bro's now being extra dramatic...
Average redditor be like.
Damn @BoaHancocksHusband to get banned from this thread it must've been waaaaaaaaaaaay outta pocket
I guess saying Drake is a better lyricist than prime Eminem wasn't your worst post
I guess saying Drake is a better lyricist than prime Eminem wasn't your worst post
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Participating in a forum is definitely a social interaction between people. Not as strong or influential as an interaction in person, but it's definitely an interaction, and it's well possible to influence someone's thoughts/opinions etc.
I wouldn't take it as far as a mission or something though
I wouldn't take it as far as a mission or something though
You're actually trying to seriously debate and shit. Save you energy I hate seeing my lil bro like this reminds me of critical vergo debates
I also often ask myself why I'm doing all of that stuff.
Participating in a forum is definitely a social interaction between people. Not as strong or influential as an interaction in person, but it's definitely an interaction, and it's well possible to influence someone's thoughts/opinions etc.
I wouldn't take it as far as a mission or something though
I wouldn't take it as far as a mission or something though
So would you say you're participating in society by talking to people on the internet? Or is it just the bare minimum?
Depends on the source.
How much pesticide have you got in those? What was the animal feed? etc
@Natalija
If the dark internet theory is true, then the only few humans here are wasting their time.
How much pesticide have you got in those? What was the animal feed? etc
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@Natalija
If the dark internet theory is true, then the only few humans here are wasting their time.
