Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

Never once said that.

When you say this:

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The left constantly tries to paint everything as black n' white and force you to choose between an all or nothing package

You are literally explaining that leftist are bad for being leftist. Because yes. We consider that sometimes, the world IS black and white, not always, but a LOT of time. And that in those case, accepting to make compromises with toxic ideologies is not possible.

Liberals made you believe that rationnality was synonymous of being able to see the nuances in politics. That the right thing to do was to be able to pick and choose what was right and wrong in all sides of the political spectrum.

Problem : This ideology the result of a sophism : the middle-ground fallacy. The belief that the truth lies somewhere in between opposing propositions.

In reality, where you uses that ideology, you put yourself to the right side, simply because taking idea from the right and from the left will ALWAYS benefit the right side.

This is how you might think the political spectrum is:

With two side and a "rationnal" middle ground. But in reality, this is how the political spectrum really is:

Two sides, black and white, bright and dark, blue and red, with NUANCES but two sides that are NOT reconcilable !

Politics exist because of the opposition of values. If we start to make the opposition dissapear, we depoliticize the conflict and we lose the reason why there is a conflict in the first place without resolving the issues behind the conflict.

In other words, we sweep the dust under the carpet.

Centrism and depolitization only helps the status co.

In the name of life they preach abortion and euthanasia. In the name of freedom: Taxes,Regulations and Centralized Government.

Good stuff

Gun control and Orwellian like privacy violations.

Gun control = Good
Orwellian privacy violations is done by big corporation mate, not by leftists, we are literally fighting that, you are - once again - missinformed.

Censoring social media and creating "hate speech crimes".

Hate speech "condamnation" : which is a good thing, not hate speech "crimes". Where are you taking your informations from ?

Censoring social media

Again, that's done by big corporation, leftist are actually against censoreship. Ignorant.

axing the shit out of anyone that creates jobs.

Those who create values are not Billionnaires but workers. Don't forget that Tatcher.

In the name of development: shit public services and schooling system meat to turn your kids into a left wing voter.
The left has always being a scam.

And.. no argument here.

there's no such word as "irrespect"

Good point, French strikes again. I meant "disrepect". Irrespect is the french word .

For the same reason why Venezuela is such a shithole. Because of left wing politics or so called Socialismus/Communismus. First you people dump the truck and later you blame a other government. Typical narcisstic behavior and typical for shitlibs.

No mate, right no the problem is Milei sh*tting on poor people. The poverty rate rose from 45 to 57% once Milei took office.

You are not gonna make the "but that's because of those who came before" excuses with the situation and the politics that are currently happening in the country right now.

Centralization of power= Authoritarianism. It starts with social democrats demanding free stuff. Evolves into socialism with its crazy taxation and regulations. Finally, it morphs into distopia called Communism.

You are delulu mate.

Argentina was once one the richest nations in the World and so was Venezuela. The poverty and inequalities arrived in their lands ever since the left took over. You don't expect Milei to fix all that in just 4 years, do you?

2-The problem with Latin America IS exactly the LEFT. Decades ago, Communists tried coups and enganged in Guerrila Warfare in multiple nations in Latin America. The Modern day gun/drug/organized crime problem is a heritage from this period. Most of the left abandoned the idea of armed revolution, but did not abandon the idea of imposing a communist regime. They are achieving that through elections. They were sucessfull and most nations down here are neck deep into socialism. Cuba became a full blown communist dictatorship. Colombia is run by drug lords. Venezuela is a dictatorship. Brazil is under judicial dictatorship. Mexico is run by fucking drug cartels. Only a handful of nations down here don't have any of these problems. The situation in Africa is similar. American and Europpean private interests are the smallest of our problems. This place is run by Russia and China.

You missed that part:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America

Its not as simple as "the left = bad, capitalists = good"

1-Institutions are made up of people. Those people insulted every Christian. Death threats are immoral and illegal, but if you do shit like that, the crazies will go after your ass.

You remind me of those who blame women after rapes for wearing squirts

Same logic. Blaming the victim because of a so called provocation.

They also gender swapped the Penguin in the animated Batman series. You can't make this shit up lmao

And ? Does it ruin the narration ?

You can't treat them the same, because there are muslim radicals out there that will kill your people if their religion is mocked. Don't hide you cowardice by virtue signalling.

Did I talked about radicals here ?

Why are you talking about radicals when I'm only talking about the muslim community under oppression. Do you want an excuse to be islamophobic here ?

What violence? Has any of these people being physically harmed in any way? NOOOOOOOOOO!

Harrasment and death threat for you is not violence ?

you're saying that the Olympics should be about you and your message against another part of the population.

The olympic ceremony has always been a way to deliver a political message, its not news Einstein.

Secondly, disruption by itself has no value. Change must bring something good for society or it should be scrapped.

This one does, you are simply not understanding it

And become a mormon.

SW-The Acolyte (with the power of maaaaaany ) is the same DEI bs like Captain Marvel ,Dr. Who and Loki

Poor snowflake.. can't handle women running the show

Cpt Marvel was not interesting and The Acolyte had amazing idea (especially about this very thing you are complaining about) but was simply boring.. Loki and Doctor who on the other hand were awesome.

ah yeah DC and Marvel learned it the way that wokeness/DEI agendas are bad for business when pushed too much

it seems Marvel is finally trying to fix things after all their woke products horribly getting bombed in the last 5 years or so

They never pushed wokeness, they pushed pink washing and white liberal feminism..

If you want to watch Disney really push wokism, look at the last season of Doctor Who or Star Wars Andor.

This is what real wokism and leftist is :

 

[Zenos7]

As long as you don't call the sexual characteristics (because its more than just the sex, especially in the case of interesex people) "woman or man", but "male or female", then there is no problem.

Well
man = adult human male

So just male wouldnt be correct. A boy is also male, but not adult.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Just found out they made Mr. Freeze a lesbian in that Suicde Squad game. They also gender swapped the Penguin in the animated Batman series. You can't make this shit up lmao

I mean that's the least of it.

 

[Zenos7]

mean even the parents, they have no right to butcher a human being just to make it look like the expected gender.

Eh, they have the right to kill the damn thing before its born.

 

[Logiko]

man = adult human male

And you keep on going. Sigh

Just male is correct. This is the scientific and medical consensus !

https://orwh.od.nih.gov/sex-gender

A boy can have male OR female characteristics.

You need to start understanding that fact or I will keep calling out your transphobic rethoric.

Eh, they have the right to kill the damn thing before its born.

We are not talking about feotus here. But human babies that are butchered at birth.

 

[Zenos7]

Even if I agree that there is no problem here, I consider that blasphemy is a weapon to use carefully. In Europe, we can't treat Islam like we treat christianity, muslim are in a situation of oppression so we must stay careful.

On the other hand, in Islamic countries like Iran for example, we can't treat other religions like we treat Islam. For the same exact reason.

Etc.. for others country with different religious formation.

Where there is oppression, blasphemy must not become a weapon to oppress even more. On the other hand where there is hegemony, its a good tool to raise questions.

Criticism of a religion should never have anything to do with adherents of said religion anyway.

So i dont really care that muslims are a protected minority when talking about islam.

Shitting on islam and protecting muslims from racists arent mutually exclusive

 

[Ravagerblade]

A man cannot ever be a woman. It is Set in stone as it were. Trying to change that is futility.
Learn the difference it'll do you a world of difference.

 

[AL sama]

Sorry,but I think it was a stupid move to bring RDJ back as Dr Doom and not as Ironman. As much as I like RDJ for his charisma,I don't think he makes a good Doom. And even if he perofrms as good as always,the movie still could be bad DEI shit. One actor can not save a movie.

I could be wrong but I think the new movie will be following the comic's content where all the multiverses gets mashed together and the whole timeline gets reset

if that's the case then Marvel can bring back any and all characters into one universe without needing any excuse

 

[Logiko]

A man cannot ever be a woman. It is Set in stone as it were. Trying to change that is futility.
Learn the difference it'll do you a world of difference.

You will have to learn the difference mate. At least if you want to be on the right side of history and live happely with trans people.

Criticism of a religion should never have anything to do with adherents of said religion anyway.

So i dont really care that muslims are a protected minority when talking about islam.

Shitting on islam and protecting muslims from racists arent mutually exclusive

Not really no.

Your critic will never be deprived of a context. By criticizing the religion of believers when said believers are under oppression, you will add a layer of pressure on them and your critic could be used as a way to attack them directly.

Again, I repeat, your critic can't be deprived from its context and the context in which you are making said critic.

The same way that you will not sh*t on the husband of a widow during the period of mourning, its non pertinent and potentially dangerous to make a blind critic of a religion of people who are under oppression.

I say blind critic because there are good critics to make about religions.. but its also not our place to take the place of believers to create a critical vision of their own belief. If we keep on criticizing globally a system, we negate the possibility to let a voice of critic flourish inside said system.

Said voices must be helped (only if necessary), but not replaced.

 

[Ravagerblade]

You will have to learn the. At least if you want to be on the right side of history and live happely with trans people.



Not really no.

Your critic will never be deprived of a context. By criticizing the religion of believers when said believers are under oppression, you will add a layer of pressure on them and your critic could be used as a way to attack them directly.

Again, I repeat, your critic can't be deprived from its context and the context in which you are making said critic.

The same way that you will not sh*t on the husband of a widow during the period of mourning, its non pertinent and potentially dangerous to make a blind critic of a religion of people who are under oppression.

I say blind critic because there are good critics to make about religions.. but its also not our place to take the place of believers to create a critical vision of their own belief. If we keep on criticizing globally a system, we negate the possibility to let a voice of critic flourish inside said system.

Said voices must be helped, but not replaced.

I love that it's you, on the wrong side, It's always hilarious when you spout off, idiocy can only go so far.

 

[Logiko]

>>>>>>>>>>>>

#Disruption
#BestPicture
#BestAura

 

[Kami Burn]

to be on the right side of history

You do this on purpose. You can't be THAT mentally challenged.

 

[Kami Burn]

Sorry, not my project right now

True,that Hasan Fanboy Reddit thread does not moderate itself.

 

[Logiko]

True,that Hassan Fanboy Reddit thread does not moderate itself.

What is Hassan ?

 

[Ravagerblade]

 

[Uncle Van]

What is Hassan ?

 

[Logiko]

You know Hasan Piker (yes I butchered his name,but don't care).

Oh that guy.. yeah I know him. Didn't understand what you were talking about. I know the guy is a leftist but that's pretty much it.

Oh!!! And I also know that he has a good opinion of Carrot which is a good thing !

 

[NAMELESS]

I miss Cartoon Network.

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[Logiko]

Since when are you pro Ukraine ?

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

The olympic ceremony has always been a way to deliver a political message, its not news Einstein.



This one does, you are simply not understanding it

Yeah I guess let's use the Olympics to mock each other, that's the Olympic spirit. I wonder why out of the 3 main religions of the area you hopeless cowards chose to mock Christianity.

Secularism sanctifies the right to blasphemy. The State couldn't care less about what weebs and ignorants think

Despite the efforts of people like you, Western states being secular only means that religions don't directly affect their institutions. It doesn't mean that the state itself is atheistic or that it encourages discrimination against its religious citizens.
But I liked how you said that it sanctifies the right to blasphemy, it really shows that you live your atheism in an almost religious way.