Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1122 Spoilers Discussion
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@Fujishiro has a serious marine fan ptsd
@Xione is the only “marine fan” I know that has Garp over Whitebeard, as he is someone who appreciates the Monkey D. family in general. Other marine fans have Whitebeard as the top guy of old era
Xione literally has Shiryu over Aokiji btw lmfao
You’re unhinged @Fujishiro, insulting one of the few respectable users on this forum over baseless accusations
@Xione is the only “marine fan” I know that has Garp over Whitebeard, as he is someone who appreciates the Monkey D. family in general. Other marine fans have Whitebeard as the top guy of old era
Xione literally has Shiryu over Aokiji btw lmfao
You’re unhinged @Fujishiro, insulting one of the few respectable users on this forum over baseless accusations
I guess Ill just have to accept that he has different opinions but I feel like hes passing them off as facts.
I am a marine fan myself, I love Fujitora, Aokiji and Sengoku. I called him a Blind Marine Fanboy which is different.
Bruh, this man @Fujishiro thinks I'd get triggered over a Garp meme... after all the shit yall put me through with Bananji memes in the Kingdom chats.
"I ignore titles even PK but not WSS"
Imagine ignoring a power title that Oda repeated countless times that you need to be above Yonko and Admirals to be PK, Oda goes on using WSM and WSC for powerlevele argument even during sbs
But no Xione gotta ignore them except WSS because he likes Mihawk and Zoro
I think you are coming to the right conclusion but the reasoning is a bit off.
The only person who's ever been stated and/or shown to be equal to Roger is Whitebeard, the WSM.
Garp can be close, but he hasn't received Whitebeard levels of proximity to Roger at all -- I agree with you there
But the Chinjao thing seems so out of place lmao. Who cares about Chinjao? If Chinjao is actually meant to downgrade Garp, then you should barely consider Garp a top tier considering who Chinjao lost to
The only person who's ever been stated and/or shown to be equal to Roger is Whitebeard, the WSM.
Garp can be close, but he hasn't received Whitebeard levels of proximity to Roger at all -- I agree with you there
But the Chinjao thing seems so out of place lmao. Who cares about Chinjao? If Chinjao is actually meant to downgrade Garp, then you should barely consider Garp a top tier considering who Chinjao lost to
It shows deference.
What the fuck??? Two of them wanted to be PK and Xebec wanted to rule the world what the fuck are you talking about bro.
Calling WB a hoe and ignoring statements in the manga putting him as Rogers Equal and then putting Garp over him is frankly baffling but you know what like I told Sakazouki I will accept this as what it is. Your opinion.
Nibba Roger literally was collecting the Road Poneglyphs to reach Laughtale. Then fucking Shiki fought him.
You brought up Shiki mentioning Roger as the rule of his era and Chinjaos statement of Roger overcoming all Conquerors as a way to belitle WB when we know how he actually became PK. By begging WB for Oden. A whitebeard that was not an enemy or a threat to him and was just chilling lol.
Youre funny bro.
What the fuck??? Two of them wanted to be PK and Xebec wanted to rule the world what the fuck are you talking about bro.
Calling WB a hoe and ignoring statements in the manga putting him as Rogers Equal and then putting Garp over him is frankly baffling but you know what like I told Sakazouki I will accept this as what it is. Your opinion.
Nibba Roger literally was collecting the Road Poneglyphs to reach Laughtale. Then fucking Shiki fought him.
You brought up Shiki mentioning Roger as the rule of his era and Chinjaos statement of Roger overcoming all Conquerors as a way to belitle WB when we know how he actually became PK. By begging WB for Oden. A whitebeard that was not an enemy or a threat to him and was just chilling lol.
Youre funny bro.
"Nobody from that era cared about PK title "
Roger still cared about being the strongest with the most fame
The dude was getting jealous when WB was gaining more fame for his strength and achievements during Oden's flashbacks
The dude didn't wanna accept Xebec supremacy and was salty for a year till God Valley
WB and Shiki still cared about being rulers or kings
He still boasted in his might and titles (WSM, Yonko)
They just didn't care about One Piece or sailing through the whole grandline like Roger did
They all sought and loved being called the strongest
Roger still cared about being the strongest with the most fame
The dude was getting jealous when WB was gaining more fame for his strength and achievements during Oden's flashbacks
The dude didn't wanna accept Xebec supremacy and was salty for a year till God Valley
WB and Shiki still cared about being rulers or kings
He still boasted in his might and titles (WSM, Yonko)
They just didn't care about One Piece or sailing through the whole grandline like Roger did
They all sought and loved being called the strongest
Bruh, this man @Fujishiro thinks I'd get triggered over a Garp meme... after all the shit yall put me through with Bananji memes in the Kingdom chats.
Ill repeat your opinion though.
Why would that be mentioned, when it plays no relevance to the story? Like what??
- Garp and Roger fought multiple times.. we have 0 idea who won how many times. So are they equals??
- Sengoku and Whitebeard have a history with each other, we don't know who won and loss, are they equals??
We don't know of Newgate beat any top tier, is Shiki his equal?? I mean a databook def says he was..
I specifically addressed the narrator thing you're referring to, which is where you got the "equal" non-sense and Buggy's statement ... both of which refer to the same moment.
Like bro I got it that you got a hard-on for Newgate and other yonko... but Roger and Garp are built different..Shiki knows it... Chinjao knows it... only the Yonko fans denying it by nitpicking on 2 statements and a baseless title.
- Garp and Roger fought multiple times.. we have 0 idea who won how many times. So are they equals??
- Sengoku and Whitebeard have a history with each other, we don't know who won and loss, are they equals??
We don't know of Newgate beat any top tier, is Shiki his equal?? I mean a databook def says he was..
I specifically addressed the narrator thing you're referring to, which is where you got the "equal" non-sense and Buggy's statement ... both of which refer to the same moment.
Like bro I got it that you got a hard-on for Newgate and other yonko... but Roger and Garp are built different..Shiki knows it... Chinjao knows it... only the Yonko fans denying it by nitpicking on 2 statements and a baseless title.
I don't even know why you're hating on Whitebeard... What's the point? What is the agenda there? We have multiple people calling him the strongest for DECADES. He was said to rule the seas and always be near the throne but never to sit on it, purely because he didn't truly want to.
Roger was collecting Road Poneglyphs to reach the last island. He also according to Kaido conquered the Grand line. Something WB didnt care about.
Then we have Shiki who was a rival to Roger and fought him for supremacy. Something, again, that Whitebeard didnt give a shit about.
Using those two things against Whitebeard is dumb.
Newgates goal was that of finding a family, thats pretty much it.
Then we have Shiki who was a rival to Roger and fought him for supremacy. Something, again, that Whitebeard didnt give a shit about.
Using those two things against Whitebeard is dumb.
Newgates goal was that of finding a family, thats pretty much it.
Anyone rating Garp over Xebec, Shiki, Kaido, WB and BM is a troll
Shiki would never say to his rocks peers "too weak to even capture Roger "
Nor would they need to train to beat Chinjao
Rocks top 5 are the strongest characters of OP if you exclude Imu, Joyboy and Roger are above them
He's right, these titles that Pirates have do not apply to Marines, and when Garp says WB was the King of the Seas this does not necessarily include Marines. Marines run the seas anyway, WB alone can't compete with them.
Marines are cops in the One Piece world, they're not supposed to be glorifying violence, but stopping it, nor are they competing with Pirates, but stopping them. No Marine will ever get a Strongest title, not even a strongest Marine title or even a reference to something related to strength.
Notice how Garp never got a Worlds Strongest Marine title? Heck forget title he was never even called the Strongest Marine or anything like that, at any point. That's because these things aren't something you are supposed to be glorified for as an enforcer. Imagine your neighbourhood cop being called the City's strongest and what kind of message that would send. Marines aren't out there to have dick measuring contests flexing their strength.
Garp was only ever called a Hero, something that Coby a fodder now shares with him. This is by design and is an appropriate honour for a Marine.
Having said all of that Garp is weaker than WB (imo), not because of WB's title alone, but because WB simply has better overall portrayal (which his title plays a big role in too) and a far more impressive toolkit. Infact I'd go as far to say that Prime Garp isn't even stronger than the Pre Skip Logia trio, because he doesn't have anything that cements him there.
Marines are cops in the One Piece world, they're not supposed to be glorifying violence, but stopping it, nor are they competing with Pirates, but stopping them. No Marine will ever get a Strongest title, not even a strongest Marine title or even a reference to something related to strength.
Notice how Garp never got a Worlds Strongest Marine title? Heck forget title he was never even called the Strongest Marine or anything like that, at any point. That's because these things aren't something you are supposed to be glorified for as an enforcer. Imagine your neighbourhood cop being called the City's strongest and what kind of message that would send. Marines aren't out there to have dick measuring contests flexing their strength.
Garp was only ever called a Hero, something that Coby a fodder now shares with him. This is by design and is an appropriate honour for a Marine.
Having said all of that Garp is weaker than WB (imo), not because of WB's title alone, but because WB simply has better overall portrayal (which his title plays a big role in too) and a far more impressive toolkit. Infact I'd go as far to say that Prime Garp isn't even stronger than the Pre Skip Logia trio, because he doesn't have anything that cements him there.
I'm just saying...if Garp "needing training" for Chinjao is such a big deal then why would you even consider Garp a top tier?
Unless either:
1) Prime Chinjao is actually much stronger than he is accredited for
2) Garp got significantly stronger after the Chinjao days
3) Oda doesn't actually care and just wanted to link Chinjao to Luffy's family (real answer)
You don't need to play agenda piece to say Garp is weaker than WB/Roger, so I don't get the Chinjao thing
Unless either:
1) Prime Chinjao is actually much stronger than he is accredited for
2) Garp got significantly stronger after the Chinjao days
3) Oda doesn't actually care and just wanted to link Chinjao to Luffy's family (real answer)
You don't need to play agenda piece to say Garp is weaker than WB/Roger, so I don't get the Chinjao thing
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