Did Enma have Oden's haki in it?


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He's right, these titles that Pirates have do not apply to Marines, and when Garp says WB was the King of the Seas this does not necessarily include Marines. Marines run the seas anyway, WB alone can't compete with them.

Marines are cops in the One Piece world, they're not supposed to be glorifying violence, but stopping it, nor are they competing with Pirates, but stopping them. No Marine will ever get a Strongest title, not even a strongest Marine title or even a reference to something related to strength.

Notice how Garp never got a Worlds Strongest Marine title? Heck forget title he was never even called the Strongest Marine or anything like that, at any point. That's because these things aren't something you are supposed to be glorified for as an enforcer. Imagine your neighbourhood cop being called the City's strongest and what kind of message that would send. Marines aren't out there to have dick measuring contests flexing their strength.

Garp was only ever called a Hero, something that Coby a fodder now shares with him. This is by design and is an appropriate honour for a Marine.



Having said all of that Garp is weaker than WB (imo), not because of WB's title alone, but because WB simply has better overall portrayal (which his title plays a big role in too) and a far more impressive toolkit. Infact I'd go as far to say that Prime Garp isn't even stronger than the Pre Skip Logia trio, because he doesn't have anything that cements him there.
So if those titles dont apply to marines I guess Fujitora isnt automatically weaker then Mihawk.
 
He's right, these titles that Pirates have do not apply to Marines, and when Garp says WB was the King of the Seas this does not necessarily include Marines. Marines run the seas anyway, WB alone can't compete with them.

Marines are cops in the One Piece world, they're not supposed to be glorifying violence, but stopping it, nor are they competing with Pirates, but stopping them. No Marine will ever get a Strongest title, not even a strongest Marine title or even a reference to something related to strength.

Notice how Garp never got a Worlds Strongest Marine title? Heck forget title he was never even called the Strongest Marine or anything like that, at any point. That's because these things aren't something you are supposed to be glorified for as an enforcer. Imagine your neighbourhood cop being called the City's strongest and what kind of message that would send. Marines aren't out there to have dick measuring contests flexing their strength.

Garp was only ever called a Hero, something that Coby a fodder now shares with him. This is by design and is an appropriate honour for a Marine.



Having said all of that Garp is weaker than WB (imo), not because of WB's title alone, but because WB simply has better overall portrayal (which his title plays a big role in too) and a far more impressive toolkit. Infact I'd go as far to say that Prime Garp isn't even stronger than the Pre Skip Logia trio, because he doesn't have anything that cements him there.
Titles apply to marines as long as they're men, creatures, swordmen,...they do

The reason no marine is ever called WSM, WSC is because there has always been one pirate still above the strongest marines when another top pirate dies or becomes inactive
 
I'm just saying...if Garp "needing training" for Chinjao is such a big deal then why would you even consider Garp a top tier?

Unless either:
1) Prime Chinjao is actually much stronger than he is accredited for
2) Garp got significantly stronger after the Chinjao days
3) Oda doesn't actually care and just wanted to link Chinjao to Luffy's family (real answer)

You don't need to play agenda piece to say Garp is weaker than WB/Roger, so I don't get the Chinjao thing
He's a top tier but not the level fans wanna place him

Prime Chinjao is low top tier or solid top tier
No YC level is clashing multiple times with Garp to a point he needs too train
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Prime Garp would low diff the C3, mid diff at most
No he won't
 
Yes, Garp and Roger are equals/relatives. They even said they both nearly killed/beat eachother multiple times, that implies relativity.
I don't even know why you're hating on Whitebeard... What's the point? What is the agenda there? We have multiple people calling him the strongest for DECADES. He was said to rule the seas and always be near the throne but never to sit on it, purely because he didn't truly want to.
Can't I just say you're hating on Garp? Lol.
 
Excepting top marines to ever be > top pirate is delusional

Oda has always made it clear STRONGEST PIRATES > STRONGEST MARINES
The story isn't about beating Admirals, that's why they're second class villains when Yonko/Gorosei are around.
 
The story isn't about beating Admirals, that's why they're second class villains when Yonko/Gorosei are around.
Second class villains?

Retard. The only villain to ever break condom and actually kill off one of his close relations was fucking Akainu.

I know a fucking bitch meme fan isn't calling Akainu the creator of the time fucking skip a second class villain... :gokulaugh:
 
Like, bro, forget ZenZu. Look at Ndule running amuck in the thread saying shit like this unironically:
As long Garp never split the skies and trained for prime Chinjao (who's equal to Kidd or Law )
He's at best near Shiki /BM
And @Xione has the gall to call me out for hating on Garp? It's like a cop focusing on a guy snatching an old woman's purse instead of a guy who's running around slitting people's throats like a fuckin' maniac. Lmao
 
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