Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

Any self-respecting, decent human being does these things by default duh.

You didn't

You're an advocate for online prostitution and women selling their bodies online.

Prostitution implies physical contact mate.

Onlyfan is an online service. Not prostitution.

But EVEN if it was, that doesn't negate the fact that you still have to respect those women.

I criticise sex work in general, men are included into it, I guess you looked over this smaaaall detail

No. I just saw that you targetted mainly women.

But it's nice reading your posts when you're fuming

Its cute that you think that this is me being triggered lol

But it's nice reading your posts when you're fuming, seething and accusing me of being an incel when my criticism isn't even unordinary

A lot of people disrespect women who are sex workers, your argument is - indeed - not new

There are also many women not fond of the idea of them selling themselves online.

You are almost getting to the point where you will discover internalized sexism. Don't give up ;)

If she earns enough, yeah, why not?

So.. Don't use her example to talk about the toxicity of being a sex worker. Not the best example.

You keep yapping about the evil system

Capitalism is not an evil system, its simply oppressive.

You keep yapping about the evil system and the riches oppressing the other ones when your favourite OF models are also a product of this system. You really don't see the hypocrisy?

And the problem here is that you don't understand the difference between people who uses the system to exploit others and those who exploit the system to fight the system and get out of pauverty.

You lack understanding and education mate. But that's ok. I created a library to help people like you understand the issue:

The leftist library

Lol, they are multi millionaires at this point.

Yeah.

I'm talking about BILLIONNAIRES Einstein.

At least I can tell to myself that I tried.

If you really tried, you would have taken a look at the leftist library, taken notes and learn a few things.

Right now. I can say that you are still uneducated on many subjects.

 

[Sentinel]

You didn't

Oh, did you pull this outta your ass as well?

Prostitution implies physical contact mate.

Onlyfan is an online service. Not prostitution.

But EVEN if it was, that doesn't negate the fact that you still have to respect those women.

I target the work, not the women.
So I can still perfectly be friends with people who have work like that. I have friends who have casual hook-ups on a weekly basis at least. Now if you ask me if I'd date people with such work, hell no.

No. I just saw that you targetted mainly women.

Because you're being a biased nutjob for some reason, lol.

Its cute that you think that this is me being triggered lol

You're constantly triggered.

Like, there isn't a post when you're not fuming for -phobes in this forum, lol.

A lot of people disrespect women who are sex workers, your argument is - indeed - not new

Yep, many people tried arguing against degenerated people but I guess it makes more sense teaching your puppy the mandarin language rather than explaining you simple things as morality. But well, keep doing that.

You are almost getting to the point where you will discover internalized sexism. Don't give up ;)

Please stfu.

So.. Don't use her example to talk about the toxicity of being a sex worker. Not the best example.

I didn't use her example for that reason and you know it, lmao.

Keeps yapping about capitalism

I guess capitalism is only good when it secures your ass, huh?

And the problem here is that you don't understand the difference between people who uses the system to exploit others and those who exploit the system to fight the system and get out of pauverty.

You lack understanding and education mate. But that's ok. I created a library to help people like you understand the issue:

The leftist library

You're an even bigger idiot than I thought.
They are not fighting the system when they're exploiting it, it's the complete contrast. Those OF models give lonely men, like you, some illusion and thus, they pay for all their services. Are they not getting exploited? You really think they're fighting against the system? No Sherlock, they are not only benefitting from the system, they are part of the system. You cannot fight the system when you're actively using all their benefits without fighting for the root of the issues.

Ok my guy, can you tell me your educational background, so that I understand where your 'higher than thou' attitude comes from? I study Computer Science, so I'd say I'm fairly educated, unless you mean that I lack education on politics and well, although I got educated like any other student on such matter, it's true that I'm not that well versed into it. However, I do recognize and understand when people are being hopeless cases and completely warped into their distorted world and beliefs when they make politics their entire existence. You need to chill and have actual hobbies.

I ain't reading all of that.

Yeah.

I'm talking about BILLIONNAIRES Einstein.

Yeah, because only billionaires oppress and exploit poorer people.
Was your former boss a billionaire when he treated you like shit when you were working as a waiter, Einstein?

If you really tried, you would have taken a look at the leftist library, taken notes and learn a few things.

There is no way this guy isn't a bot.

 

[Okamakama]

Just stop replying to him. It's clear he's either a troll, mentally challenged, or otherwise cognitively impaired.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

OH GOD are there no other topics beside transgender and prostitution?!?!??
Y'all only care about sex, typical weeb forum.
When as Lama of all people is the only guy who posts real political content you know this userbase is finished.

 

[Sentinel]

OH GOD are there no other topics beside transgender and prostitution?!?!??
Y'all only care about sex, typical weeb forum.
When as Lama of all people is the only guy who posts real political content you know this userbase is finished.

It all started when Logiko threw his usual -phobes stuff at people. We called him out on that, he argued against it, then it went on and on about prostitution, evil capitalism and so on. But you do have to admit it's sus how he's defending the OF models like that... Like bruh, they ain't dating you. Stop.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

You didn't

You know a lot of people here thinks you're a decent dude and sometimes I do too despite our different opinions on different topics.
But the I read this and I think this is a POS answer.
You want him to respect women, which he does btw, he just doesn't respect some jobs (OF) and I'm sure he shows the same disrepect for men who does OF (@Sentinel will confirm it), but yet you show no respect to him nor his opinions and you're being disrespectful towards a lot of people on this thread and your reason is just because they disagree with you.

Not everybody comes from the same background, have the same beliefs, have the same education (be it from religion or school or from their parents or whatever) that you do.

 

[Sentinel]

You know a lot of people here thinks you're a decent dude and sometimes I do too despite our different opinions on different topics.
But the I read this and I think this is a POS answer.
You want him to respect women, which he does btw, he just doesn't respect some jobs (OF) and I'm sure he shows the same disrepect for men who does OF (@Sentinel will confirm it), but yet you show no respect to him nor his opinions and you're being disrespectful towards a lot of people on this thread and your reason is just because they disagree with you.

Not everybody comes from the same background, have the same beliefs, have the same education (be it from religion or school or from their parents or whatever) than you do.

The thing is, he already set up his own narrative about people and views them in certain categories. When I debated with him about it, I often empathized about the fact that it's not just the female sex workers which I'm criticising here, their work btw, but the whole thing in general. It wasn't even pure criticising, it was about arguing against his stance why jobs like that "needs" to be respected when it's clear it's not a socially acceptable job. Not even in today's western society. Many people still point fingers at them and it will not change like that since people view their private parts as their dignitied parts for a good reason (due to shame and other reasons). It doesn't even have to be a religious reason. It can have many moral reasons.

 

[RebelliousSoma]

You know a lot of people here thinks you're a decent dude

I never did and still don't think that's the case. Just for clarity and everyone's awareness.

 

[Sentinel]

I never did and still don't think that's the case. Just for clarity and everyone's awareness.

At least he isn't insulting. But I have to admit, his "higher than thou" attitude really is annoying af.

 

[RebelliousSoma]

At least he isn't insulting. But I have to admit, his "higher than thou" attitude really is annoying af.

He is insulting and trash talking every chance he gets. Even indirect insults are still insults.

And btw, transphobe is clearly an insult to him.

@Logiko you're a transphobe and a terf.

 

[NAMELESS]

He is insulting and trash talking every chance he gets. Even indirect insults are still insults.

And btw, transphobe is clearly an insult to him.

@Logiko you're a transphobe and a terf.

He doesn't use curse words, but he does insult people all the time. The xyz/phobic remarks and comments about religion are insults.

 

[Logiko]

Oh, did you pull this outta your ass as well?

Mate, you are the one who spread incel BS about sex workers. Everything is still here, people can verify.

I target the work, not the women.

Your critic always comes in a context mate. A patriarcal context. So while you may think that you are targetting everyone, in reality, the one who will get targetted the most because of said critics will be the women.

So, when I say respect women. This comes within the context of your critic. Especially when most example you are using are not men but women.

Because you're being a biased nutjob for some reason, lol.

No, I simply observed.

You're constantly triggered.

Like, there isn't a post when you're not fuming for -phobes in this forum, lol.

This is me passing the time mate. The day you will see me triggered or really angered, you will understand the difference

Yep, many people tried arguing against degenerated people but I guess it makes more sense teaching your puppy the mandarin language rather than explaining you simple things as morality. But well, keep doing that.

Morality has no value if its not backed up by a concrete reality.

Your morality here is non pertinent.

Also, stop using psychophobia to make a point.

Please stfu.

Want more salt ?

I didn't use her example for that reason and you know it, lmao.

Then there is no reason to talk about her. Let her be.

I guess capitalism is only good when it secures your ass, huh?

No, its always bad. But I won't attack people who are using it against itself.

You're an even bigger idiot than I thought.

Charming.

They are not fighting the system when they're exploiting it

Some are yes. But not the system you think about. I'm not talking only about capitalism here, but Patriarchy as well

Those OF models give lonely men, like you, some illusion and thus, they pay for all their services

And ?

Are they not getting exploited?

Nop. Not at all.

You need some understanding of the concept of exploitation under capitalism mate.

You really think they're fighting against the system?

Against patriarchy for some, yes.

Other are just fighting for their survival and therefore using capitalism against itself.

You cannot fight the system when you're actively using all their benefits without fighting for the root of the issues.

Actually you can.

But it demands some sacrifices.

But that'ss another subject. Sex workers are not benefiting from all the benefits of capitalism. That would be a really dumb and ignorant statement to make.

Ok my guy, can you tell me your educational background, so that I understand where your 'higher than thou' attitude comes from?

Nop. ;)

But if you want you can check this :

- My bio
- My journey to fight all my belief systems (and therefore the reason why I can talk to you about those subjects here without flintching)

unless you mean that I lack education on politics and well

Yes, that's what I mean.

You don't need much, you just need to have a similar political and sociological education as mine (that is quite superficial really) and question your point of view on morality.

When I say to someone that they are uneducated on something. It might be taken as an insult, but it's never delivered with that intent. I mean by that there are things that I know that the other person does not or does not really understand.

If that wasn't the case, I would not have to speak. In fact I would prefer to stay silent. But since I'm the only one who wants to do something against rightist BS, i'm the only one you will face.

However, I do recognize and understand when people are being hopeless cases and completely warped into their distorted world and beliefs when they make politics their entire existence. You need to chill and have actual hobbies.

That's my hobbie lol

Yeah, because only billionaires oppress and exploit poorer people.

No, also small business owner and people who create bad laws etc. But I can't really tax those people the same way, can I ?

Was your former boss a billionaire when he treated you like shit when you were working as a waiter, Einstein?

Never worked as a waiter.

There is no way this guy isn't a bot.

Its funny, you guys have so many similar rethoric that I sometime ask myself the same thing about you..

mentally challenged

They can't help themselves....

It all started when Logiko threw his usual -phobes stuff at people.

Are you sure about that ?

But you do have to admit it's sus how he's defending the OF models like that... Like bruh, they ain't dating you. Stop.

Oh.. I see the popular incel argument coming...

Are you gonna call me a... toum toum toum "white knight" ???

You want him to respect women, which he does btw, he just doesn't respect some jobs (OF) and I'm sure he shows the same disrepect for men who does OF

Not everybody comes from the same background, have the same beliefs, have the same education (be it from religion or school or from their parents or whatever) that you do.

Indeed.

> That's why I'm being very patient and replying to everything
> That's why I created the leftist library for everyone to take a good look and good care about different social and political issues.
> That's why I'm sharing datas, scientific researchs, medical documentations, officials statements, activist testimony, victims testimonies, interview and political statements.
> That's why I take good care to always explain in detail my point of view in order to make it as accessible as possible
> That's why I'm creating graphs, mental maps and tabs to makes people understand those subjects clearly
> That's why I'm taking a LONG time to expose and describe my own journey in the understanding of those concepts I'm talking about in order for people to really understand who to learn

So.. don't get rallied up when I see that people make NO EFFORT AT ALL to understand the minor parts of political issues.

I can do a lot, but all the thing that I do can only be understood by people who are willing to listen. If you are not, you won't understand. So, don't be surprised when I call out the toxicity here.

I often empathized about the fact that it's not just the female sex workers which I'm criticising here, their work btw, but the whole thing in general.

Problem is, as I explained before, this critic, in the context, is directly at women, and not men. Its women who pay for it.

Its women who get harrassed on social medias, its women who get kicked out from society. Its women who are under oppression.

So when you are attacking an activity where there are mostly women, its women that you are aiming your fire at.

I never did and still don't think that's the case. Just for clarity and everyone's awareness.

Don't worry, it's mutual

He is insulting and trash talking every chance he gets.

Can you give a quote ? A proof of me insulting people directly ?

And btw, transphobe is clearly an insult to him.

Nop. Just a bad behavior.

@Logiko you're a transphobe and a terf.

Hm.. no.
Again I told you already. The reverse Uno card only works in Uno. This is not a real thing mate. You are not in third grade anymore, time to understand that.

but he does insult people all the time. The xyz/phobic remarks and comments about religion are insults.

Oh ? Can you quote please ?

 

[NAMELESS]

Mate, you are the one who spread incel BS about sex workers. Everything is still here, people can verify.


Your critic always comes in a context mate. A patriarcal context. So while you may think that you are targetting everyone, in reality, the one who will get targetted the most because of said critics will be the women.

So, when I say respect women. This comes within the context of your critic. Especially when most example you are using are not men but women.


No, I simply observed.


This is me passing the time mate. The day you will see me triggered or really angered, you will understand the difference





Morality has no value if its not backed up by a concrete reality.

Your morality here is non pertinent.

Also, stop using psychophobia to make a point.



Want more salt ?



Then there is no reason to talk about her. Let her be.



No, its always bad. But I won't attack people who are using it against itself.



Charming.



Some are yes. But not the system you think about. I'm not talking only about capitalism here, but Patriarchy as well



And ?



Nop. Not at all.

You need some understanding of the concept of exploitation under capitalism mate.



Against patriarchy for some, yes.

Other are just fighting for their survival and therefore using capitalism against itself.



Actually you can.

But it demands some sacrifices.

But that'ss another subject. Sex workers are not benefiting from all the benefits of capitalism. That would be a really dumb and ignorant statement to make.



Nop. ;)

But if you want you can check this :

- My bio
- My journey to fight all my belief systems (and therefore the reason why I can talk to you about those subjects here without flintching)


Yes, that's what I mean.

You don't need much, you just need to have a similar political and sociological education as mine (that is quite superficial really) and question your point of view on morality.

When I say to someone that they are uneducated on something. It might be taken as an insult, but it's never delivered with that intent. I mean by that there are things that I know that the other person does not or does not really understand.

If that wasn't the case, I would not have to speak. In fact I would prefer to stay silent. But since I'm the only one who wants to do something against rightist BS, i'm the only one you will face.



That's my hobbie lol



No, also small business owner and people who create bad laws etc. But I can't really tax those people the same way, can I ?



Never worked as a waiter.



Its funny, you guys have so many similar rethoric that I sometime ask myself the same thing about you..





They can't help themselves....



Are you sure about that ?



Oh.. I see the popular incel argument coming...

Are you gonna call me a... toum toum toum "white knight" ???

Indeed.

> That's why I'm being very patient and replying to everything
> That's why I created the leftist library for everyone to take a good look and good care about different social and political issues.
> That's why I'm sharing datas, scientific researchs, medical documentations, officials statements, activist testimony, victims testimonies, interview and political statements.
> That's why I take good care to always explain in detail my point of view in order to make it as accessible as possible
> That's why I'm creating graphs, mental maps and tabs to makes people understand those subjects clearly
> That's why I'm taking a LONG time to expose and describe my own journey in the understanding of those concepts I'm talking about in order for people to really understand who to learn

So.. don't get rallied up when I see that people make NO EFFORT AT ALL to understand the minor parts of political issues.

I can do a lot, but all the thing that I do can only be understood by people who are willing to listen. If you are not, you won't understand. So, don't be surprised when I call out the toxicity here.




Problem is, as I explained before, this critic, in the context, is directly at women, and not men. Its women who pay for it.

Its women who get harrassed on social medias, its women who get kicked out from society. Its women who are under oppression.

So when you are attacking an activity where there are mostly women, its women that you are aiming your fire at.





Don't worry, it's mutual






Can you give a quote ? A proof of me insulting people directly ?



Nop. Just a bad behavior.



Hm.. no.
Again I told you already. The reverse Uno card only works in Uno. This is not a real thing mate. You are not in third grade anymore, time to understand that.




Oh ? Can you quote please ?

im not playing your games. touch grass.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

why are there so many of these🤔

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

But you do have to admit it's sus how he's defending the OF models like that... Like bruh, they ain't dating you. Stop.

He's definitely a top contributor for one of em

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

🤣

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[RebelliousSoma]

He doesn't use curse words, but he does insult people all the time. The xyz/phobic remarks and comments about religion are insults.

That's what I'm saying.

He's a transphobe.

 

[Logiko]

More on the situation of Bangladesh and some interviews.

im not playing your games. touch grass.

He's definitely a top contributor for one of em

If only I had that type of ressources....

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

If only I had that type of ressources....

You don't have to lie to us, we already know