Character Discussion Luffy died as a character

#66
Coming from a fandom that so desperately wanted Zoro to be Ryuma 2.0 that a 40+ page thesis on ZKK was written in lieu of it? This has no sting to it whatsoever.

Luffy is his own person, just like I had to literally argue with Zoro fans, that Zoro was his own person, and not Ryuma. Except when yall were thinking Zoro was Ryuma 2.0, you celebrated it as a good thing.
Zoro was his own person who could have replicated Ryuma's feat in Wano due to his decendant but Oda was a very bad author in Wano.

Luffy is literally reincarnated as Joy Boy and now all his accomplishments get branded as Joy Boy accomplishments lol
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Indeed. Zoro High diffed the mofo Luffy low diffed.
Its polar opposite lol
Or worse Zoro neg diffed the mofo Luffy equaled in extreme diff battle.
 
#67
I just have difficulty in figuring out how these developments support the traits that made Luffy the premier protagonist in shonen. He gives less of a fuck about the plot than he did before Arlong, his DF is not a turd he polished but the most important power in the world, and every time he loses things get less difficult for him.
No nothing has changed luffys fruit was garbage that he polished it being a mythicalgod fruit doesn't change that it didn't give him anything special before he awakened the fruit and he had to train his ass off before that happened

Luffy awakening just gives him a unique heartbeat. And joy boy also awakened it so he had that same heartbeat which is what zunisha heard he wasnt take. Over by joyboy its just a title
 
#68
No nothing has changed luffys fruit was garbage that he polished it being a mythicalgod fruit doesn't change that it didn't give him anything special before he awakened the fruit and he had to train his ass off before that happened

Luffy awakening just gives him a unique heartbeat. And joy boy also awakened it so he had that same heartbeat which is what zunisha heard he wasnt take. Over by joyboy its just a title
The reads like a frantic defense, as it is. Oda would like it both ways but it can't be: achieving with a low ceiling is invalidated by a retroactively high ceiling. He wasn't using a bad power to its potential and if anything he was about on par.

If Kizaru believed he has a flash power, then kicked everyone's ass and found out that it is actually the totality of light (speed, density/intangibility, and heat) then he wouldn't retain that initial credit. Luffy's strength and endurance being enhanced is a very direct result of being a Zoan. To boot the power unconsciously awakened after he fell short (let's not forget a hideous contrast to Kaido in that) and the unconscious rhythm summons one literal deus ex machina after another.

He went from a character in defiance of doubt to a character who is credited for traits to which he's oblivious. When he's wrong the world will bend itself backwards to make him right, and so really he doesn't need to work as hard or learn the lessons he should. He's nothing more than a slave of destiny, just happens to be a favored one.
 

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#70
No it isn't, Joyboy stored his haki on that rope not on the fruit.
imagine thinking that someone couldve created a DF with their will and thoughts and embedded so much haki in it as well...


this is just the negligence of new gen kids not actually following the storyline or reading comprehension
 
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