Questions & Mysteries When Luffy beat Kaido, what if Kaido wasn't sent to Magma?

#23
That was the true power in this manga, not haki, will of D, destiny or whatever: plot armor. Luffy lost 4 or 5 times and even literally died but come back each time, and even stronger on the top of it. Kaido and BM on the other hand were sent all the way into a magma pool which also erupted if that wasn't enough.

At this point, even if of course with Oda you can never be certain, that was a way to remove 2 big chess pieces like Kaido and BM without having the shining MC actually kill them. For reference it is a bit like when the big bad villain, who is invulnerable or almost, is sent into the sun to die erased by its hotness (Broly from DBZ or comic villains I guess). If Luffy just sent Kaido flying he would either stay at the bottom of the ocean until somebody rescues him like Jack did or even better land on another island and recover after some time.
 
#25
But I doubt that it will be done in a glorious way, he may be turned into another one of Nika's worshippers. Same for Big Mom, I dread that Oda may turn her into O-Lin again and permanently this time.
Oh I was talking about this hypothetical. I do believe he is dead or not coming back. And honestly I don't want to. He will become a hype tool for BB/Imu if he comes back imo.
 
#28
He was K.O.ed and defeated. But he will come back after some time.
Agreed, we need to remember that when he made his debut, he said "Let's start the greatest war this world has ever seen" plus his strongest attack in his Azure Dragon form is him coating himself in lava like if he's Blaze from Mortal Kombat.
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Oh I was talking about this hypothetical. I do believe he is dead or not coming back. And honestly I don't want to. He will become a hype tool for BB/Imu if he comes back imo.
At this point it's better for him to stay dead, even if it was done in a horrible way, than to be used in an even worse one in the current story.
Well if Kaido doesn't come back, there will be characters that will become stronger than him, if he returns, he could be a lot stronger than him to be a tool for BB and Imu, cause since there will be this "Eos" thing and make guys like BB, Shanks, Mihawk, Kuzan...etc become stronger than Kaido by "Eos" like I don't want to see that happen, that will ruin Kaido for me, and it should ruin Kaido for you guys as well.

Or unless if we're gonna keep him dead, then I hope BB or Akainu or some of the characters that Straw-Hats will confront in the future, don't be stronger than Kaido because he wasn't called WSC for nothing, and also that would ruin Kaido too so it's better that Kaido still remains stronger and the likes of BB, Akainu, Shanks or Mihawk stay in the powerscaling/ranking like how they are, Kaido is still stronger rn, otherwise if Oda would do that, he's gonna make the series become longer and the series wouldn't make sense, and Oda will make Kaido be like that god of war from the Fairy Tail chapters 433 & 434, and that would ruin One Piece for me, IMO the next guys should be easier for Luffy and the Straw-Hats, cause Oda also said he could end OP in the next 5 years, if Oda could end OP, the next guys should be easier for Luffy than Kaido.
 
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#29
Agreed, we need to remember that when he made his debut, he said "Let's start the greatest war this world has ever seen" plus his strongest attack in his Azure Dragon form is him coating himself in lava like if he's Blaze from Mortal Kombat.
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Well if Kaido doesn't come back, there will be characters that will become stronger than him, if he returns, he could be a lot stronger than him to be a tool for BB and Imu, cause since there will be this "Eos" thing and make guys like BB, Shanks, Mihawk, Kuzan...etc become stronger than Kaido by "Eos" like I don't want to see that happen, that will ruin Kaido for me, and it should ruin Kaido for you guys as well.

Or unless if we're gonna keep him dead, then I hope BB or Akainu or some of the characters that Straw-Hats will confront in the future, don't be stronger than Kaido because he wasn't called WSC for nothing, and also that would ruin Kaido too so it's better that Kaido still remains stronger and the likes of BB, Akainu, Shanks or Mihawk stay in the powerscaling/ranking like how they are, Kaido is still stronger rn, otherwise if Oda would do that, he's gonna make the series become longer and the series wouldn't make sense, and Oda will make Kaido be like that god of war from the Fairy Tail chapters 433 & 434, and that would ruin One Piece for me, IMO the next guys should be easier for Luffy and the Straw-Hats, cause Oda also said he could end OP in the next 5 years, if Oda could end OP, the next guys should be easier for Luffy than Kaido.
The thing is what will be Kaido's role if he comes back. OP is moving to final endgam and oda has to focus on so many characters - Imu , gorosei , holy knights , fraudmirals , BBPs , SHs , RHPs , Revos etc. I doubt he will give Kaido that much screen time him being the recent big bad. I can see him now being weakened and joining CG maybe or going to challenge the CDs and imu and for him to die a glorious death he wished for.
 
#33
The thing is what will be Kaido's role if he comes back. OP is moving to final endgam and oda has to focus on so many characters - Imu , gorosei , holy knights , fraudmirals , BBPs , SHs , RHPs , Revos etc. I doubt he will give Kaido that much screen time him being the recent big bad. I can see him now being weakened and joining CG maybe or going to challenge the CDs and imu and for him to die a glorious death he wished for.
If Kaidou survived, he would've taken out his frustration on Greenbull and the Marines would've had to mobilise to respond.
That's why when Oda first introduced Kaido, I kinda wished he would be the final villain of OP, and if he'd be Luffy's enemy, his rivalry with him wouldn't be personal but because it's about competition and who will be Pirate King, but now that Kaido was one of Luffy's earlier enemies and antagonists, We have a rude awakening that Oda would nerf Kaido and just like DBZ or Naruto, the earlier antagonist would become looking weaker compared to the next/new ones, and that would just kill the joy for OP, Like we kinda don't wanna see that happen.

Like an example, I remember a time when I thought Doffy was one of One Piece's strongest ever but as the series went by, Oda turned him into a JOKE, like Cracker was still not stronger than him but starting from Katakuri (or actually Doffy is close to Katakuri more than how people think), he became a joke, same thing with even some of the good guys in OP like Ace, we all thought in the past Ace was one of the strongest, right? until the series kept going, he turned into a joke, weakest character that could beat Ace would be Doffy or Queen as both are higher than Ace in the YC2 tier, but as gutted as we are for these 2 that they got nerfed but also it kinda made sense later as the series went by, no wonder why Akainu made easy work of Ace or Doffy always soils his pants when Kaido's name is mentioned.

Like yeah Oda did show us that there's levels to this but with Kaido, I hope there's not too many characters that would surpass him in power anytime soon, like Gorosei, Kizaru, GB or Fujitora didn't surpass him, that's okay, but characters like Mihawk, Shanks, Kuzan, BB (Or unless he gets a 3rd DF to himself), Akainu, EOS Sanji (his strongest version is either a Prime Rayleigh or Shanks which isn't kinda enough), EOS Zoro (or maybe if he becomes same level as Ryuma but not at same level as Shanks or Mihawk)...etc of them surpass Kaido, that would be HARAM, like HARAM, but if the likes of EOS Luffy or EOS Coby surpass him, I'd agree with that, and ofc EOS Momonosuke being at same level as him, I agree with that too.
 
#36
If your in motion not being able to change the state of motion alone. You’ll need external force. So again if Luffy put Kaido in that state and the stat that Kaido is in after being hit is knocked out, who knocked him out? Luffy.
If you're in motion , you will stay in that motion unless or until compelled by some other motion.

Kaidou Cannot stop Something pushing him down this quick. It has nothing to do with Kaidou being knocked out or not. Nobody can stop that kind of motion mid air or anywhere.

There was no knocking out.
 
#37
Luffy never KO'ed Kaidou.
And Kaidou survived a Skyfall , throwing him on ground won't do much either.
He might on last stand after this much exhaustion. But would again topple luffy again if given chance.

Oda made him like that , He specifically said a big punch won't be enough to defeat kaidou.
But gave us a big punch in the end. He made an unbeatable character for that tier luffy.
This explains the tierlist, mother of cope
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#38
If you're in motion , you will stay in that motion unless or until compelled by some other motion.

Kaidou Cannot stop Something pushing him down this quick. It has nothing to do with Kaidou being knocked out or not. Nobody can stop that kind of motion mid air or anywhere.

There was no knocking out.
The why isn’t he up? Who put him in motion? He was knocked out.
 
#40
Because he would need something greater to move the motion... kaidou can't do that with any of his arsenal.
He was not knocked out. Omg.
You still don't understand inertia do you?
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You don’t understand my post clearly. Also this is anime characters break through inertia. Saying the same shit over and over doesn’t make you right.
 
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