Character Discussion Teach’s portrayal is proof he’s Big Mom 2.0

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#21
Be ready for Teach to be defeated by allies.
:milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:
I read the whole thing because I was looking for a statement like this... You didn't disappoint.

Nobody is touching Blackbeard except for Luffy as that is his most important 1vs1 in the story.
Kaido was also damaged by Law, no problem with that. Doffy was heavily damaged by Law, no problem.
Imu neg diffing Luffy as Kaido did? I got bad news, Imu will likely have a good portion of his powers not work vs Luffy.

Just like it was for Enel. Unless Usopp plays the role of natural counter Imu negging Luffy ain't happening.
Because Imu is Perona+Sugar with a god complex like Enel. Imu is not Doffy, that might be Man with Burn scar.
It is unclear if Imu will be the main baddie of his own arc or someone else will get a jump on him towards the end.

Speaking of Aura... 3 out of 4 Emperors don't have that aura you speak of.
Blackbeard is silly, Luffy is super silly, Buggy is super silly+.
If you are expecting badass aura in Luffy's future fights, remind yourself that he is a complete clown now.
Badasses don't fit well against such a guy.

Law is just strong, Oda elevated his portrayal throughout the fight. He would probably look good against any top-tier right then and there bar Imu.
I strongly urge you to not make the same mistake Kidd fans made.
Your fave got to show off against sloppy characters twice in a row(Big Mom and Blackbeard).
Do not let it get to your head. You cannot say for certain that Law is strong enough to beat Doffy let alone top tiers...
Remember that there was nothing he could do against Kaido's Thunder Bagua, now add the lethality of a sword to that and you get the same result as Shanks vs Kidd.
 
#23
No he won’t lol, Law won’t be charging a giant ass canon on his first move. Oda doesn’t like Kid, he a bum and is based on the unluckiest pirate.
FS hard counters Law’s entire fighting style and he needs time to apply Anaesthesia to his sword before using his Awakening techniques.

Shanks blitzes and one shots Law with absolute ease. Law can’t even run away with his teleport because Shanks can see where he’s going to go.
 
#25
No main villain gets clowned the way Teach does. Period.

The fact that even 1000+ chapters into the story, Oda still has Teach take damage from Law, is proof imo he’s just a secondary antagonist in the final saga. Aka he’s Big Mom 2.0, as opposed to the main villain of the final saga.

For reference, Doffy stomped Smoker, Law, and Sanji and I don’t believe he took damage until the midpoint of the dressrosa arc.

Kaido wasn’t damaged until act 3 of Wano.

Teach ran from Rayleigh and took damage from Law before defeating him. Yet Bepo pulled a fast one on him and Law got away from him before he could steal Law’s DF.

It’s Big Mom tier incompetence.

Now is Law strong? Of course he is. We saw him beat Big Mom. But that’s besides the point. Fact is, there’s a certain level of aura you need to have to be the main antagonist of a saga and Teach doesn’t have it.

Imu is the one who has that Doffy/Kaido aura. He commands the Gorosei from the shadows and Luffy doesn’t even know how to defeat the Gorosei.

If one character has the ability to neg diff Luffy like Kaido did in act one, it’s clearly going to be Imu, not Teach.

So yeah. Be ready for Teach to be defeated by allies. Koby and Sabo imo, but Buggy and Shanks also works.
Blackbeard (I almost wrote Luffy lol) is the antagonist of Luffy. Not just as a random villain but the antagonist of the entire story. He is.. until proven otherwise, the second most important character of the story !

For that reason, Blackbeard is created to be a reflection of Luffy but in a twisted way.

Where Luffy doesn't take damage, BlackBeard gets beaten up hardly.
Where Luffy is very resiliant and resistant, BlackBeard is resiliant as well !
Where Luffy is the Sun and the representation of freedom, Blackbeard is Darkness and Tremor and the representation of Chaos

Blackbeard is the character who (without noticing it) created the most problems for Luffy.

When BB takes damages, you are not supposed to think that he is weak.. you are supposed to be scared of him. He takes more damage than everyone and yet manage to stay alive despite everything.. on top of that, BB annihilate the property of Devil fruit.

For those two reasons, he is the WORST opponant for Luffy.

But worse than his resistance, BlackBeard has the intelligence that Luffy lacks. He will fight in every way possible and in the most dirty way possible. Don't expect him to fight fairly !

So yes, he might not look like it, but BB is dangerous as F !
 
#26
:milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:
I read the whole thing because I was looking for a statement like this... You didn't disappoint.

Nobody is touching Blackbeard except for Luffy as that is his most important 1vs1 in the story.
Kaido was also damaged by Law, no problem with that. Doffy was heavily damaged by Law, no problem.
The issue isn’t simply Law damaging Teach. As I said, Law is strong. The issue is when this happened.

Law damaged Teach before Teach even got his arc.

Meanwhile he damaged Doffy and Kaido towards the finale of those arcs.

Does this mean Teach is weak? No I think he could have destroyed the heart pirates like Shanks did to the Kid pirates, had he been more serious.

But it does show that Teach isn’t the main villain of this saga. No saga villain gets treated this way. It’s Big Mom portrayal.
 
#27
FS hard counters Law’s entire fighting style and he needs time to apply Anaesthesia to his sword before using his Awakening techniques.

Shanks blitzes and one shots Law with absolute ease. Law can’t even run away with his teleport because Shanks can see where he’s going to go.
With a starting distance like Kid, Law doesn’t get one shot. That kind of distance is where he can safely prep. He sees Shanks coming like that and he can clash with Kroom or shambles out. Shanks didn’t perception blitz Kid either, Kid just had a giant canon stuck to his body so he can’t really dodge lol
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#29
The issue isn’t simply Law damaging Teach. As I said, Law is strong. The issue is when this happened.

Law damaged Teach before Teach even got his arc.

Meanwhile he damaged Doffy and Kaido towards the finale of those arcs.

Does this mean Teach is weak? No I think he could have destroyed the heart pirates like Shanks did to the Kid pirates, had he been more serious.

But it does show that Teach isn’t the main villain of this saga. No saga villain gets treated this way. It’s Big Mom portrayal.
As I said, you have entered the silly saga as MC has become a clown. All future opponents will be clowns... One way or another.
Even Enel had clown moments and Luffy wasn't a clown at that point yet...

You are looking at it the wrong way, Blackbeard looks better here as he was damaged by Law, if you consider that a bad thing, long before his main-show off and before his final power level while Doffy and Kaido were damaged at their final show-off with their final power level...

Teach ain't the guy who destroys anyone, he is a different Luffy, he gets his ass dragged to victory.
I didn't say Teach is a final villain, I am saying it isn't Imu either.
We have still to see the final villain and it is Shadow Asgard Moriah v2.0, whoever that is. He comes at the very end and WG ain't the end.
That is just a Marineford v2.0 where allies get the spotlight.

Final villain will either show up after Imu is beaten or after 4 Emperors are beaten.
 
#34
Bro he literally took acoc attacks from kaido and ate meme's punches as well as midd did...
They probably think Law’s fragile because he’s the cool looking “doctor”. Not everybody has to be ugly like Teach to have a sturdy jaw lol, they’re forgetting that this is anime. I’ve seen this misconception all the time that Law can’t take hits or something.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#36
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3 Yonko couldn’t one shot Law

Not Kaido with ACoC signature attack
Not Meme with multiple different elements
Nor Teach with the gura +Yami

WG user- makes sense Yonko shank would one shot Law
:ohreally:
Right... All those had the lethality of a proper swordsman...
Law fan: acts surprised or genuinely cant tell a difference...
Kidd fans bragged for the same reason you are bragging.
 
#39
With a starting distance like Kid, Law doesn’t get one shot. That kind of distance will be where he can safely prep. He sees Shanks coming like that and he can clash with Kroom or shambles out. Shanks didn’t perception blitz Kid either, Kid just had a giant canon stuck to his body so he can’t really dodge lol
Prep is irrelevant against a guy who can see everything you are about to do before you do it, and has the speed and mobility to cover ground the way Shanks does.

Law plans to shambles out, Shanks knows where he’s going to go before it happens

Law tries to anaesthesia his sword to set up Kroom, Shanks is already there and Law’s been Divine Departures.

Shanks is a horrid matchup for Law.
 
#40
Imu?

Aura?

The guy who just shat himself from the Haki of a man centuries dead, wanks to a woman dead just as long, and impotently hides away from the world ripping up posters of all the people who scare him?

Van Auger has more aura than Imu’s shown, and he’s only Blackbeard’s subordinate.
Let's be real:

There is not a single villain in OP with any kind of "aura".

Not one.

Imu comes closest by default, because he's still a mystery and has the benefit of being a 800+ year ruler of the world. Having said this, even he has some massive fraud allegations going against him.
 
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