Character Discussion Teach’s portrayal is proof he’s Big Mom 2.0

[nik87]

Can’t damage Kaido?
Which character slash is Kaido using haki to protect himself with? An which being face tanked with little care….

Hell Zoro need training wheels to hurt Kaido. Without Ryou can’t hurt Kaido at all lmao. Law with his Gura lvl AP can do so without the use of gimmicks… Keep in made Ryou no different then internal hax. An allows vet lvl characters to damage Kaido scales.

Who said about damaging Kaido? I said Kaido's dragon scales.
Kaido's passive haki is preventing majority of Law's abilities.
Imagine how bad that is, passive haki preventing majority of one's abilities from working at all...

Imagine Kaido's passive haki preventing Zoro's abilities... Can you imagine that? lol
Zoro had Ryo back at Alabasta, don't be triggered that your fave doesn't have Scabbard level haki.
>Law with Gura level AP... Where are these statements coming from? lol Do you know even what you are talking about?

No, Ryo is not hax, it simply allows people to cut through hardest of things.
Law on the other hand, has to skip those things and attack insides.
And every time he damaged Kaido he targeted the insides. And that is your supposed offense above Zoro's?

 

[Garp the Fist]

Shanks was not in front of Kid like Kaido was in front of Law. There was a full shoreline between Kid and Shanks lmao. How hard is it to say Shambles in that exact situation, this is just pure underestimation at this point.

Yes, but when did Kid notice Shanks?

Was it

a) when Shanks was at the shoreline

or

b) when Shanks was right in front of him?

The answer is b, and that’s what Law needs to react to in time. Which is much the same range and position he was in against Kaido where he couldn’t.

I can’t really argue with the protecting the crew narrative, I’d say Shanks successfully stops Law’s attempt to slaughter the crew but Law also avoids the one shot with shambles or Kroom. Law will survive for a while before Shanks lands a hit. That is a win-win situation for Oda.

Yes, going with the portrayed as nigh-equals… but one is clearly better than the other. Not only that but Law and Kid’s tooklit are way apart, Law is clearly more versatile. This is like saying BM and Kaido are basically the same character lol. Go gauge individual feats without that bias. Oda also clearly elevated Law’s portrayal as someone close to top-tiers during Egghead. Either you think Shanks is way stronger than your average top-tier or accept that Kid isn’t necessarily Law either

Or I can say that Blackbeard’s careless and overconfident, as has been said about him throughout the series (including the Law fight) while Shanks is stone-cold serious when he needs to fight, and that’s the difference between the two fights.

You’re basically now arguing that what, Law might get to run away from Shanks first hit, or maybe get to have a clash? You aren’t saying he’s going to actually hurt Shanks, you don’t think Shanks would fail to protect his fleet… is it just that you think Law’s fruit gives him a bit more versatility and allows him to delay a one shot for a few seconds? This is the best case scenario? Less of a fight than Lucci gave Luffy? Hardly looking much better than Kid, and I think everyone agrees that Kid would do better against Blackbeard than he would against Shanks, so it’s all evening out.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Congrats on not understanding the themes of a pirate comic made for 12 year old kids I suppose.

Imu has been the shadow king of the world since the void century

only the next Joyboy can and should defeat him

Teach is strong but there are other characters who could beat him. Koby and Sabo 2v1ing makes sense. Koby has Garp’s will, Sabo has Ace’s. Both are enough motive to stop Teach.

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BB still has stuff to show. He gonna get a 3rd df if he hasn't already. A zoan one.

And his final opponent is condom. Hardly a smart character. Condom will be way more susceptible to yami.

Sure he’ll be the 2nd strongest antagonist in the final war

But that does essentially make him Big Mom 2.0, so my point still stands

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

what argument lmao. Half the time ur nonsense debunks itself lmao.

Yet you didn't lmao, your arguments are delusional " Base Law " who couldn't even do shit to Fodder Doffy lmao 😂

a character confirmed to tank gura blows to the face pre-skip totally a glass canon. are these the arguments you spoke of?

Yes , Glass canon who has no durability feats his main point is endurance like Zoro lmao , Akainu tanked a Gura to the face and it doesn't mean shit . 😂

Law one shot flame on King. You’ve already said which the better feat lmao. Hence you debunk ur self lol. Funny parts if King sandbagging as bad, as Kaido in those moments PH Law legitimately neg King.

So Headcanons 😂 , same base law who got mid diffed by Fodder Doffy ? or the one who got oppressed by Veteran level smoker ?

One character matches strongest AP in verse.
Other characters best feat overpowering no haki kaido

Low couldn't even give Teach a lasing damage or broken bones with his mediocre human durability using his 2sd strongest attack while Asura scarred Hybrid Kaido's tough body that scales levels in toughness compared to teach's mediocre durability .

Let Law surpass RT Zoro's feats using his ultimate techniques .

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Teach is strong but there are other characters who could beat him. Koby and Sabo 2v1ing makes sense. Koby has Garp’s will, Sabo has Ace’s. Both are enough motive to stop Teach.

Teach is definitely falling to Luffy.

 

[Ven437]

WorstGen still scared of what Law will accomplish EoS by downplaying Teach instead, instead of taking his feats at face value and admitting he’s just THAT good

You love to see the cope

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Teach is definitely falling to Luffy.

There are 3 big antagonists of the final saga: Imu, Teach, and Akainu

Luffy cannot 1v1 all of them

chances are he gets Imu with the others falling to allies. Imu is the only character that only Luffy can beat, as he is JB’s rival.

 

[Heart pirate]

Who said about damaging Kaido? I said Kaido's dragon scales.

Considering Law has the feats of matching the strongest Attack power in the verse. Zoro best feats matching a no haki kaido. What logic suggest both can’t fuck over kaido dragon scales. Kaido himself thought WB could kill him.

In canon injection shot lvl shockwaves can already penetrate the scale enough to have Kaido coughing blood. Gura rocks him

Kaido's passive haki is preventing majority of Law's abilities.
Imagine how bad that is, passive haki preventing majority of one's abilities from working at all...

2 abilities the majority?
Now can use explain when Kaido defending himself with anything against Zoro. No right, since Kaido intentionally face tanking his attacks!!

Since when the character an opponent blocking. Have the lower offensive output?

Imagine Kaido's passive haki preventing Zoro's abilities... Can you imagine that? lol
Zoro had Ryo back at Alabasta, don't be triggered that your fave doesn't have Scabbard level haki.
>Law with Gura level AP... Where are these statements coming from? lol Do you know even what you are talking about?

Imagine Kaido face tanking Law slashes/or any hax…. Can you picture that? Lol can Ryou help him one shot Ling, don’t think we’re the triggered fandom lmao!!!

The canon manga where Law portrayed matching the Gura. If you remember Zoro EoS goal once try to. Oda had a YC physically throw that attempt away like trash

No, Ryo is not hax, it simply allows people to cut through hardest of things.

So hax lol, or are you going to argue the scabbard > Fuji. One can’t even hurt Luffy with a named attack, the others a stab Kaido.

Law on the other hand, has to skip those things and attack insides.
And every time he damaged Kaido he targeted the insides. And that is your supposed offense above Zoro's?

Law literally the only one to damage Kaido without ryou or internal hax

Spoiler

http://imgur.com/a/zYnk6TC

http://imgur.com/a/ZTLImRy

An that was before an 100X upgrade. Awakened shockwaves clash with the gura. Can zoro cut Kaido with ryou/internal hax ? Hell no

 

[park_min young]

Yes, but when did Kid notice Shanks?

Was it

a) when Shanks was at the shoreline

or

b) when Shanks was right in front of him?

The answer is b, and that’s what Law needs to react to in time. Which is much the same range and position he was in against Kaido where he couldn’t.



Or I can say that Blackbeard’s careless and overconfident, as has been said about him throughout the series (including the Law fight) while Shanks is stone-cold serious when he needs to fight, and that’s the difference between the two fights.

You’re basically now arguing that what, Law might get to run away from Shanks first hit, or maybe get to have a clash? You aren’t saying he’s going to actually hurt Shanks, you don’t think Shanks would fail to protect his fleet… is it just that you think Law’s fruit gives him a bit more versatility and allows him to delay a one shot for a few seconds? This is the best case scenario? Less of a fight than Lucci gave Luffy? Hardly looking much better than Kid, and I think everyone agrees that Kid would do better against Blackbeard than he would against Shanks, so it’s all evening out.

Yes, I was never arguing that Law will land a hit on Shanks’ first ever fight lol. I’d say that he will at least look good and also not get one shot like that.
How do you think Zoro will fare against a blitz from Shanks then? Zoro has not shown feats that he can react to TB levels of speed himself and he doesn’t even have a teleport out like Law. Same narrative and all, Shanks needs to protect his crew as Zoro is trying to slaugter them.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

WorstGen still scared of what Law will accomplish EoS by downplaying Teach instead, instead of taking his feats at face value and admitting he’s just THAT good

You love to see the cope

The last main villain negged Luffy

the one before that did this to Law

Spoiler

But go on about how Teach is the main villain of the final saga lmfao

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

There are 3 big antagonists of the final saga: Imu, Teach, and Akainu

Luffy cannot 1v1 all of them

chances are he gets Imu with the others falling to allies. Imu is the only character that only Luffy can beat, as he is JB’s rival.

I think it's entirely possible that Luffy beats Sakazuki and Blackbeard while Blackbeard himself takes out Shanks and Imu.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Did anybody mention that Zoro scarred Lucci? Or am I missing something lmao

Zoro scarred Kaido , get glasses man .

There was also no mention that BM took severe damage from PW and yet her bones was broken from a significantly weaker attack. It’s internal damage you birdbrain, Oda doesn’t always have to spoonfeed you information that 5-year-olds can deduce themselves

BM took severe damage from PW not SW , SW did the damage in combo with Kidd .

Initial SW didn't break shit , Teach stood up wity no lasting damage or broken bones and yes if it did happen it would have been mentioned like for Zoro or meme herself after their combo attacks .

Teach took significant damage but he just has high endurance. Pre-ts Teach walked off a slash and point-blank quake from WB as well.

Headcanons , Endurance wouldn't help someone with broken bones to fight for long .

Zoro couldn't last long because of 30 broken bones and visually , he was shown stressed and bleeding each time he moved .


Meme healed herself the moment she stated her Bones were broken out .

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I think it's entirely possible that Luffy beats Sakazuki and Blackbeard while Blackbeard himself takes out Shanks and Imu.

Imu was undefeated for hundreds of years

He is clearly the next Kaido.

Teach is the jobber #2 villain, just like Big Mom

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

that Blackbeard’s careless and overconfident,

 

[Malio]

Ass thread [as per usual]. Underestimate Blackbeard at your own cope

 

[Garp the Fist]

Yes, I was never arguing that Law will land a hit on Shanks’ first ever fight lol. I’d say that he will at least look good and also not get one shot like that.
How do you think Zoro will fare against a blitz from Shanks then? Zoro has not shown feats that he can react to TB levels of speed himself and he doesn’t even have a teleport out like Law. Same narrative and all, Shanks needs to protect his crew as Zoro is trying to slaugter them.

I think Zoro gets two shot and fails to destroy the fleet.

Zoro was the one to react and block Hakai, giving everyone else the time to bolt. That’s one area where Zoro, Kid and Law were all in the same place, facing the same attack and Zoro clearly reacted the fastest, so I feel comfortable giving him the benefit of the doubt over Kid and Law in that area.

Hakai also didn’t beat him outright despite smashing his bones to mulch, so that’s also a point in favour of him not getting one shot.

I think the first attack from Shanks would go much the same as Roger‘s Divine Departure against Oden, but more serious since that was a friendly fight. Zoro gets a first block in, but gets blown back (and hurt more than Oden was). Zoro tries to go again, but Shanks follows up, overpowers and beats him with a second hit.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

@Erkan12

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Imu was undefeated for hundreds of years

He is clearly the next Kaido.

Teach is the jobber #2 villain, just like Big Mom

But does Imu have an appropriate group for matchups? The Gorosei are too strong. The top guy of the Holy Knights may also be too strong, leaving Imu with 6 top-tier fighters. The Blackbeard Pirates already provide this in spades with them being dark versions of the Straw Hats.

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

Imu was undefeated for hundreds of years

He is clearly the next Kaido.

Teach is the jobber #2 villain, just like Big Mom

He sat around doing nothing for hundreds of years is what you mean

 

[Robin swan]

The only thing bm and bb have in common is their propensity to underestimate thier opponents leading to them getting hit. BB usually stops doing this once he recognizes his opponent as strong. Bm doesn't and lost to kidd and law because she refused to acknowledge them as serious threats. She made the decision to not dodge them, not use adcoc, nor finish them when she had the chance. Bb would never do this. Even in their only real similarity bm is on a worse level than bb.