#61
Vegapunk was able to create an entire scenario to turn the table.
Vegapunk didn’t create a scenario to turn the table. If Luffy hadn’t arrived BY DUMB LUCK, all of Vegapunk’s plan would have failed

Oda is doing a retroactive thing here… Oda wrote the arc to where without Luffy, the Gorosei win completely… But now he’s gone back to make it seem like this was all vegapunk’s plan… having forgotten the part where Luffy was no in vegapun&’s plan and without him it all fails
 
#63
Vegapunk didn’t create a scenario to turn the table. If Luffy hadn’t arrived BY DUMB LUCK, all of Vegapunk’s plan would have failed
Not at all. Vegapunk would be dead and the message would have been broadcast anyway. In fact, it might have been more imapctfull since it's the presence of Luffy which forced the elder to be summoned and to advance search for the snail.

The plan of Vegapunk was simple : Being killed, start the diffusion of the message because of his death and using this death to show the world that what he is saying is true and reliable, just like Roger.

Vegapunk intended not to be discovered, to lose and die. That was the whole point. But he managed to create a situation at the very end where one of the Vegapunk was saved.. hence saving a part of himself in the process.

The "best" part.
The one part that really made him search for the secrets of the world in the first place and the reason why all scientists become scientists:

The part of humanity that seeks to have fun and create disruption.
 
#64
If you like doing it then do it for yourself.

If you like one piece the way it is then enjoy it... cherish it. No one is stopping you. No one is calling you stupid for liking one piece then why you have to call others stupid if they don't like one piece as much as you do?

Why it matters what other has to say or whether other people aligns with your thinking? Why you are so eager to change people's opinion?


Anyway, it's your wish. Do what you think is best for you
He has a cronic inability to understand that people having different views than himself doesn't mean that they're stupid, ignorant or evil. It's like that in every thread he participates in.
 
#66
Not liking OP and expressing their distann for how the most recent arc ended vs the guy defending Oda like his job at Shueisha depends on it, all because he likes the manga is *drum roll*.....











A difference in opinion.
We are not facing simple people disliking the most recent arc. We are facing people who disliked every single arcs since Marineford. And keep on trashing the overall story and Oda as a writer.

I make criticizms. What we are facing are not critics, its hate.
 
#69
We are not facing simple people disliking the most recent arc. We are facing people who disliked every single arcs since Marineford. And keep on trashing the overall story and Oda as a writer.

I make criticizms. What we are facing are not critics, its hate.
And? Let the people hate it, love it or just let them troll. If you don't like it search for a different forum/website nobody forces you to stay
 

Mr. Reloaded

Professional backstabber
#70
We are not facing simple people disliking the most recent arc. We are facing people who disliked every single arcs since Marineford. And keep on trashing the overall story and Oda as a writer.

I make criticizms. What we are facing are not critics, its hate.
Sounds like what you want is an echo chamber, Reddit is perfect for you.

Can't say anything negative without getting downvoted to oblivion, while also getting gaslight into thinking you're just wrong and literate and what you're complaining about is actually the pinnacle of writing.
 
#72
I'm gonna watch Monster

never got around to it

maybe it will take the bad taste of egghead of my mouth

I should probably also finish Fullmetal too, which i never did

blasphemy
Why Sth serious like monster to improve your mood and not comedy,slice of life etc
 
#74
To you, everything is hate and oppresion.
The problem is that this forum is full of that

:goatasure:

Why do you think it has a bad reputation ?


And? Let the people hate it, love it or just let them troll. If you don't like it search for a different forum/website nobody forces you to stay
Why ? Because negativity leads to negativity and because said negativity will spread outside of the forum.

I'm not against trolling, hating, or trashing the manga. It's ok. .... if that's something done by a very few people in a remote corner of the forum. But not when it's on the entire forum by 90% of people posting in One Piece discussions.

Let me remind you that this is a One Piece forum, not a One Piece hate forum.


Sounds like what you want is an echo chamber, Reddit is perfect for you.
Mate.. really...

How the hack can't you see that currently you are discussing in the BIGGEST echo chamber of hate of the One Piece fanbase ?

This forum is the DEFINITION of an echo chamber:

- All user have the same behavior
- Any counter behavior or rethoric is casted out
- The same hatefull opinion on the story is spread by the majority of people with various levels in EVERY threads
- The system promote said negativity and echo chamber
- The staff is participating in said negativity

Do you realize mate, that I was ALONE, facing 15 people insulting and trashing me for month because of the negativity present on this forum and my strong opinion on carrot's story.. that I'm facing the SAME situation in the political thread for the SAME reasons and that I'm ALONE in this forum to denounce this negativity ?

So Yes. I show my teeth. Like anyone would in my situation, it's just the normal behavior !

:kayneshrug:

My opinions are not represented here.

 
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