#83
It goes beyond just Zoro fans lol


Basically you are only ok with different opinions when sheer numbers make them irrelevant to the big picture.
If people want to specific and elaborated critics, I see no problem to share that in said section

But here I'm talking about the constant trashing of the story. Said constant trashing as no place in a general One Piece section where FANS are supposed to discussed a story they like.


what Logiko wants, is their opinion to be the dominating one
No, simply on equal footing with others.
 
#84
The problem is that this forum is full of that

:goatasure:

Why do you think it has a bad reputation ?



Why ? Because negativity leads to negativity and because said negativity will spread outside of the forum.

I'm not against trolling, hating, or trashing the manga. It's ok. .... if that's something done by a very few people in a remote corner of the forum. But not when it's on the entire forum by 90% of people posting in One Piece discussions.

Let me remind you that this is a One Piece forum, not a One Piece hate forum.



Mate.. really...

How the hack can't you see that currently you are discussing in the BIGGEST echo chamber of hate of the One Piece fanbase ?

This forum is the DEFINITION of an echo chamber:

- All user have the same behavior
- Any counter behavior or rethoric is casted out
- The same hatefull opinion on the story is spread by the majority of people with various levels in EVERY threads
- The system promote said negativity and echo chamber
- The staff is participating in said negativity

Do you realize mate, that I was ALONE, facing 15 people insulting and trashing me for month because of the negativity present on this forum and my strong opinion on carrot's story.. that I'm facing the SAME situation in the political thread for the SAME reasons and that I'm ALONE in this forum to denounce this negativity ?

So Yes. I show my teeth. Like anyone would in my situation, it's just the normal behavior !

:kayneshrug:

My opinions are not represented here.

WorstGen is a safe haven for people that felt pushed out from the rest of the One Piece community

many of the things you preach, you can find everywhere on twitter, reddit, youtube and discord servers

it's that insane toxic positivity, that Oda does everything right, all his ideas are genius and everything has been perfectly foreshadowed

so anybody that ever raised up any bit of criticism was pushed aside and burried under dislikes and all that stuff, many of them came up here

and now you want to come here and also push them out from this place too?

i don't care if WorstGen's reputation is bad outside

i think people should be allowed to talk about what they think of the story

and i disagree, there are many people here who still love the story and enjoy Oda's decisions

but they are not calling everyone else stupid, like you are, that's why they don't get attacked as you do
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No, simply on equal footing with others.
You already have that on reddit, twitter, youtube and whatever else you want

go to any of those places
 
#85
It goes beyond just Zoro fans lol
It never goes beyond Zoro fans.
If people want to specific and elaborated critics, I see no problem to share that in said section
But here I'm talking about the constant trashing of the story. Said constant trashing as no place in a general One Piece section where FANS are supposed to discussed a story they like.
Most people are giving out reasons, you're just invalidating them as stupid and ignorant.
 
#89
Where did you see a difference of opinion here ? lol
"I think One Piece is great!"

"I think One Piece isn't great!"

Difference of opinion mate.
The problem is that this forum is full of that

:goatasure:

Why do you think it has a bad reputation ?



Why ? Because negativity leads to negativity and because said negativity will spread outside of the forum.

I'm not against trolling, hating, or trashing the manga. It's ok. .... if that's something done by a very few people in a remote corner of the forum. But not when it's on the entire forum by 90% of people posting in One Piece discussions.

Let me remind you that this is a One Piece forum, not a One Piece hate forum.



Mate.. really...

How the hack can't you see that currently you are discussing in the BIGGEST echo chamber of hate of the One Piece fanbase ?

This forum is the DEFINITION of an echo chamber:

- All user have the same behavior
- Any counter behavior or rethoric is casted out
- The same hatefull opinion on the story is spread by the majority of people with various levels in EVERY threads
- The system promote said negativity and echo chamber
- The staff is participating in said negativity

Do you realize mate, that I was ALONE, facing 15 people insulting and trashing me for month because of the negativity present on this forum and my strong opinion on carrot's story.. that I'm facing the SAME situation in the political thread for the SAME reasons and that I'm ALONE in this forum to denounce this negativity ?

So Yes. I show my teeth. Like anyone would in my situation, it's just the normal behavior !

:kayneshrug:

My opinions are not represented here.

Mate, anyone can state their One Piece or anime/manga opinions here no matter how dumb and everyone can freely butt heads with each other over it. Nobody gets banned for an opinion on ink drawings.

An echo chamber is what Oro Jackson turned into when they started banning people they didn't like for arbitrary reasons. I got a ban for liking a profile post that said "Mate, the moderation is too heavy handed."

I got perma banned, for liking a profile post despite never even having a warning point before. That is an echo chamber, not people having the ability to tell each other that they are wrong.
Do you realize mate, that I was ALONE, facing 15 people insulting and trashing me for month because of the negativity present on this forum and my strong opinion on carrot's story.. that I'm facing the SAME situation in the political thread for the SAME reasons and that I'm ALONE in this forum to denounce this negativity ?
That sounds like a you problem.
My opinions are not represented here.
Yes they are you emotional hypochondriac, you represent them just like everybody else represents their own opinions. Just because you don't have a free gang of forum cheerleaders behind you doesn't mean your opinions aren't "represented".
 
#92
WorstGen is a safe haven for people that felt pushed out from the rest of the One Piece community
You can say "haters", it's okay. I understand what you meant.

that Oda does everything right, all his ideas are genius and everything has been perfectly foreshadowed
Because that the F. case mate.

You guyz are here by simple reactance to people just praising the skills of an author thinking that you know better but in reality not understanding that there is a REAL F REASON why people are praising him so much.

No. Not everything Oda is right, but the majority IS and that's why it's so incredible ! Of course Fan need to learn to look at the story with critical thinking and I agree, ideolizing an author IS NOT GOOD.

BUT you guys are doing the exact opposite ! You are not hating for good reasons, you are hating because that's the right thing to do here !

I did idealize Oda for a lot of years, and it was hard to look at One Piece with critical thinking and pin point where the problems are. But at not point I went the other way and started hating on an obvious amazing story !

Do you know how many mangaka would kill to have the simplest skill that Oda depicted in Egghead alone ? A LOT.


but they are not calling everyone else stupid
I'll never call anyone stupid. I might think it for some people sometimes, but I never insult. The only things that I say is how much you guys are not understanding the story.

Not understanding or ignorance of something is not a sign of stupidity or lack of intelligence, it's simply the sign that you don't have all the tools to understand. The problem is that when I give you those tools, I AM the one being insulted. So don't invert the responsibility here.


You already have that on reddit, twitter, youtube and whatever else you want

go to any of those places
Yes, that will most likely be my next next move.


Most people are giving out reasons, you're just invalidatingbthem as stupid and ignorant.
Ignorance yes, stupidity, never.

And yes. I invalidate them because the reasons given are simply not pertinent.


You realize that Luffy was instrumental in allowing the message to go out

The iron giant was an immobile robot without the Nika fruit awakening
No. The message would have went out the same way. The reason why they didn't find the snail is because it was hidden in a place where even York would not have think about.

The moment they found out about the message, It was finished.

In fact, without Luffy, the gorosai would have add a harder time since Saturn would have been alone to find it.


"I think One Piece is great!"

"I think One Piece isn't great!"

Difference of opinion mate.
Now, count how many people are saying "One Piece is great" here and how many are sayin "One Piece or said arc + infinity is trash"

Mate, anyone can state their One Piece or anime/manga opinions here no matter how dumb and everyone can freely butt heads with each other over it. Nobody gets banned for an opinion on ink drawings.
No one is saying it's not the case.


An echo chamber is what Oro Jackson turned into when they started banning people they didn't like for arbitrary reasons. I got a ban for liking a profile post that said "Mate, the moderation is too heavy handed."
This was indeed problematic. You should be able to criticize the power.

But Worstgen is still an echochamber.

I got perma banned, for liking a profile post despite never even having a warning point before. That is an echo chamber, not people having the ability to tell each other that they are wrong.
No, that is a bad and repressive system. The problem of Worstgen is that it's the opposite, but equally bad.

That sounds like a you problem.
Sure


Yes they are you emotional hypochondriac, you represent them just like everybody else represents their own opinions. Just because you don't have a free gang of forum cheerleaders behind you doesn't mean your opinions aren't "represented".
 
#94
Everything was hypothetical. It was all set up for an "in case shit happens" scenario.

They kept getting investigated, but nothing came about it.

Eliminating York would have done nothing but prove her accusations to the World Government.

So until they were caught dead to rights, they weren't pulling the trigger on anything.
 

Mr. Reloaded

Professional backstabber
You guyz are here by simple reactance to people just praising the skills of an author thinking that you know better but in reality not understanding that there is a REAL F REASON why people are praising him so much.

No. Not everything Oda is right, but the majority IS and that's why it's so incredible ! Of course Fan need to learn to look at the story with critical thinking and I agree, ideolizing an author IS NOT GOOD.

BUT you guys are doing the exact opposite ! You are not hating for good reasons, you are hating because that's the right thing to do here !
This is borderline cultist mentality.

- Oda isn't your friend
- You don't work for Shueisha
And even if you did, your job is not in jeopardy because some weebs are talking shit about the manga on a internet forum. They don't give a fuck lol.
- You aren't getting a sponsorship from Viz or whoever publishes the volumes in your country
- You aren't getting a private meeting with Oda

There is no reason for you to waste your time like this.
 
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