Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1124 Spoilers Discussion

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I disagree only with this point. For some reason people think that Admirals should fight like Kaido and Whitbeard using nuclear sized blasts, when they have their own unique powers and abilities. Kizaru's shtick is his speed, and showd plenty of it. And Goofy isn't the easiest opponent out there, so cut some slack for Kizaru.
sanji could keep up with his speed., snakeman and even base blitzed him... old man ryleigh stopped him in his tracks, marco stopped him mid attack..

his speed sint that impressive...
 
I disagree only with this point. For some reason people think that Admirals should fight like Kaido and Whitbeard using nuclear sized blasts, when they have their own unique powers and abilities. Kizaru's shtick is his speed, and showd plenty of it. And Goofy isn't the easiest opponent out there, so cut some slack for Kizaru.


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Kizaru looks underwhelming exactly because he fought Goofy who was out of his league

His accelerated kick, which knocked back G4 Snakeman, was undermined by Goofy being more hurt by Vegapunk's barriers

His lasers, attacks which are supposedly unblockable, got eaten by his G5 going toon

He kept running away from the battle and then got knocked out by an attack that is mid-tier in Goofy's arsenal at best

Actually, his lasers even got negged by Sanji's power of love. :kizawat:Compare that to Nasjuro who managed to look more lethal and destructive with Shodai Kitetsu alone

He did create some tension when luffy was sweating saying someone strong was there . It was hype !
Okay, cliffhanger tension then. But it all went downhill from there when Goofy undermined his status and when he couldn't even KO Sentomaru for more than a chapter
 
We saw Kizaru multiple times struggle with killing Vegapunk, he had the opportunity after kicking Luffy and doesn't immediately go for the throat. We have him looking remorseful almost the entirety of the arc post Kuma flashback.

Yes, their friendship could be in greater detail, no, that doesn't diminish or somehow destroy it. Nor does that make this reaction forced in any way. "Show don't tell", we see Kizaru as a deeply empathetic person in the Kuma flashback when he lowers his hat at Kuma's decision and we see Kizaru with Vegapunk throughout the years

We knew they had a long standing friendship. None of this is new.

It's actually pretty awesome writing to put Kizaru in a position where he has to choose between his lifes work and his personal feelings. And him finally snapping like this after making a tough decision is good writing.

But you'd rather have him act like a stoic nonchalant badass (but I think you'd have criticized that too. You just hate the character.)
None of this actually explains why I should care about Punk’s and Kizaru’s relationship though.

And I don’t hate Kizaru lol. Just because I trash talk Admirals in powerscaling debates doesn’t mean I hate any of them as characters (GB’s the only one I think is a trash character). I’ve said he was an absolute menace in Sabaody and had one of the best intros in the manga. I said that his and Sentomaru’s relationship was actually pretty well written. Much better than Kizaru’s and Punk’s relationship, where Oda never showed them having any chemistry with each other.

I’ve pushed for Kizaru dying because he’s the most expendable Admiral, especially now that his connections to Vegapunk are exhausted. There’s really nothing else left for him in the story other than being a side gig in whatever arc Luffy fights Akainu. I simply believe that Kizaru sacrificing himself to save Kuma and Bonney from Saturn would’ve been a better end to his character than him being a future Zoro/Sanji victim
 
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