Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1124 Spoilers Discussion

[Pringles]

Sure, let's forget the last word in that sentence "くれえで" = "くらいで" which is the most important.

To not give a long explanation here, Kurai is a word that mainly has 2 uses, 1 is to round. For example when you don't have a certain number for example, like: 20分くらいで着くよ "I'll arrive in 'around' 20 min"(you don't have the number but you know you'll arrive around that time). Or like "It weights 'around' 5 kg"(the same thing), etc. I think it's pretty simple.

Anyways this is not the case here. The other case is similar but at the same time it's difficult to explain why it's similar.

The other case it's to show that it's not that big of a deal. For example そのくらいで騒ぐな(don't make a fuss 'just' for something like that), this is one of the examples but it's basically the same one that Zoro is using.

Zoro says ジジイ一人死なせたくらいで（"'Just' because he let 1 old man die"）.

Also the first sentence, Zoro is talking about Luffy's attitude that Jinbee and Franky were talking about in the beginning of the conversation, yes, it's obviously negative but he isn't talking about Luffy's responsabilities or anything like that, he is talking negatively about him being depressed because of just 1 old man dying despite his position as an emperor.

Edit: Maybe saying that the word is used to show that 'it's not that big of a deal' is a bit wrong because i can think of cases where it's not exactly like that but the same. It's a bit difficult to explain.

ジジイ一人死なせたくれえで = jijī hitori shinasetakureede = just let the old man die.

Where did you get the "because" in the sentence?

"Even though he's a Yonkou now, it's disgraceful to think that he could just let an old man die like that."

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

I genuinely believe awakened Law has better general AP than Luffy @park_min young @Roo @Heart pirate
Luffy only takes the edge with his highest end moves like Bajrang Gun

I think Zoro is higher than both lmao, glass canon Teach walked off Law's 2sd strongest attack while laughing his ass off 😭 whilst Zoro scarred hybrid Kaido's tough body if teach got scarred by Asura that clown would have died .

 

[OPKnK]

But people said Lucci fought Zoro for 6 months even tho it was off screened. Zoro fought with Nusjuro for 1 month because they were safe for multiples chapters.
Zoro cancelled Nusjuro with his haki that pushed Nusjuro on Red Line
And still it doesn't mean Zoro couldn't protect, it just Lilith who warned them and Atlas came from no where.

"No one will look down" ? The thing you should understand Zoro isn't like others. He is literally blaming Luffy to be depressed for someone he just met and he shouldn't because he is Yonkou.

You can cry but not depressed like Luffy here just because he failed to protect.

I don't really give fuck about people who say Lucci and zoro fight 6 month or what the fuck ever .
We all know that it was not long in world time .
Just because luffy is yonko don't mean he going to change emotional wise .
He can do some self reflection that he fail ( which is something people were talking about for weeks on here and say he not doing )
Luffy can be depressed and don't want to party right away and being yonko don't mean shit with emotion as we saw with other yonko .
Last thing i want luffy to be is saying i yonko i don't care that one of my allies died and luffy is to go war for you if feed him or he just like you .

 

[L57]

Zoro needs to leave this dogshit crew
He s right goofy is garbage pathetic

 

[AER15]

Zoro needs to leave this dogshit crew
He s right goofy is garbage pathetic

I agree, hopefully all his fans leave the fanbase as well

 

[MonochromeYoru]

He and the rat is the reason why mid piece is in this sad state.

How is shanks a reason?

You just hatin lol

Shanks appears like once every 500 chapters. He is not the reason op is trash. It's the Nika and shp

 

[Doggo]

Fujitora is a good guy, Ryokugyu has a black blade = Ryokugyu is Zoro's opponent

Kizaru belongs to Sanji, Zoro cannot even stop lasers

Black Leg Sanji vs Black Blade Aramaki.

 

[SakazOuki]

Zoro needs to leave this dogshit crew
He s right goofy is garbage pathetic

Zoro will become an Admiral after the final war

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Coby future FA what? In any case he will be admiral
Also fuji hates the wg system is very different from kaku bon chan and señor pink behaviours
imo it would be bad writting if he is just a villain with how loda has portrayed

Oh boy here we go again......he is talking about 3rd and gaban is also a wing

Thanks I'll use it for debates with zhaters

Coby’s the future of the marines of cours he’s the future FA. Fuji is just a current admiral, someone who’ll be an antagonist lose to Zoro and Mihawk and be done with the story.

He’s not abandoning the marines because he hates pirates more than the WG

 

[MonochromeYoru]

I think Zoro is higher than both lmao, glass canon Teach walked off Law's 2sd strongest attack while laughing his ass off 😭 whilst Zoro scarred hybrid Kaido's tough body if teach got scarred by Asura that clown would have died .

...

Law attacks internally

His attacks won't leave scars

Kaido also walked off the scar within seconds lmao

 

[L57]

Zoro will become an Admiral after the final war

Ik kizaru was mad as hell when he one shoted lanji and had to kill vp
Like bro def tought he was atleast not a fodder

 

[OPKnK]

What my buddy @ivaannom said is true.

Zoro is shitting on Luffy because he is crying and depressed when he is a Yonkou just because he let an old dude die. So basically here Zoro says stop bitching for a death and act like a Yonkou.
Shanks, Buggy, Wb, Kaido and Big Mom killed many people but don't cry lol.

Luffy indeed let VP died but what Zoro wanna say is : you failed but don't being depressed now and move on.

Of course they not going cry over the people they kill .
This not luffy crying over someone that he kill this is him depressed over someone he know even if it a short while dying .
We straight out had Kaiod cry when he notice BM haki gone and man even cry when don get beat because he cry when he drunk .
Buggy on other hand is be crying all damn time cause he getting beat up croc and mihawk lol

 

[L57]

ジジイ一人死なせたくれえで = jijī hitori shinasetakureede = just let the old man die.

Where did you get the "because" in the sentence?

"Even though he's a Yonkou now, it's disgraceful to think that he could just let an old man die like that."

Gotta wait for officials
No way zoro is heartless about somene s death
Look at his reaction to yasu
He def called luffy pathetic bcs he couldnt protect him

 

[AER15]

Kizaru and Akainu's boss btw
yeah we're not feeling bad about them no matter how hard Oda tries

 

[OPKnK]

You can bet but Oda, not once in this story, has skipped a teased island that he hides from the reader.

Elbaf, Lodestar and Laugh Tale are the exact 3 islands he consistently referenced prior in this story (things like Impel Down, Marineford, Fishman Island and Wano were also similarly teased before we went there), and he refuses to reveal those islands.

You know when we arent going to an island when he fully shows them off before the crew goes there. I.e. its very unlikely we physically go to Beehive or Mariejoa because Oda has already revealed both locations properly and has spent considerable time (4-10 chapters) in each location through other characters).

Elbaf, Lodestar and Laugh Tale obviously do not fit this category. He's never shown the latter 2, and Elbaf always has its sillhouette hidden (we never see the island as a whole with the tree).

I don't see him teased lodestar the way how he did for places like FI or Elbaf .
Don't forget we saw elbaf in BM flash back so it not like he fully hide it .
I don't mine being wrong cause last island in Grand line should be interesting .

 

[Paperchampion23]

I don't see him teased lodestar the way how he did for places like FI or Elbaf .
Don't forget we saw elbaf in BM flash back so it not like he fully hide it .
I don't mine being wrong cause last island in Grand line should be interesting .

I think these (Inu and Roger) are very clear teases of engaging the reader on wanting to see the island. Anyway, Im really not sure why people have a hate boner for Lodestar lol. Even certain people were denying Elbaf for years until became fact that we were going there.

 

[park_min young]

I think Zoro is higher than both lmao, glass canon Teach walked off Law's 2sd strongest attack while laughing his ass off 😭 whilst Zoro scarred hybrid Kaido's tough body if teach got scarred by Asura that clown would have died .

Teach is not a glass canon, he walked off a point-blank quake attack around his neck and a bisento strike. He can take Zoro’s attacks and keep going even if he gets scarred lol. Somebody way weaker like Lucci got scarred and wasn’t even knocked out by Zoro.

 

[HA001]

Teach is not a glass canon, he walked off a point-blank quake attack around his neck and a bisento strike. He can take Zoro’s attacks and keep going even if he gets scarred lol. Somebody way weaker like Lucci got scarred and wasn’t even knocked out by Zoro.

Remind me what did lucci do the rest of the arc ? Cause after g5 he was still goinf

 

[Sir Yasheen]

You can bet but Oda, not once in this story, has skipped a teased island that he hides from the reader.

Elbaf, Lodestar and Laugh Tale are the exact 3 islands he consistently referenced prior in this story (things like Impel Down, Marineford, Fishman Island and Wano were also similarly teased before we went there), and he refuses to reveal those islands.

You know when we arent going to an island when he fully shows them off before the crew goes there. I.e. its very unlikely we physically go to Beehive or Mariejoa because Oda has already revealed both locations properly and has spent considerable time (4-10 chapters) in each location through other characters).

Elbaf, Lodestar and Laugh Tale obviously do not fit this category. He's never shown the latter 2, and Elbaf always has its sillhouette hidden (we never see the island as a whole with the tree).

Don’t forget God Valley too

 

[SakazOuki]

If Hibari is truly Akainu's daughter then Kuzan froze her as means to keep her away from the battlefield