Character Discussion Is Zoro Bipolar

[MonochromeYoru]

Yaesu was truly a great person who sacrificed himself for others.

Vegapunk was a greedy scientist who created weapons of mass descructed, conducted tests on minorities and worked alongside Yokai to kill and create a clone army.

It is very diferent

Zoro doesn't know shit about the shit Punk has done.

And his words when Yasu died weren't "Someone Great just died"

It was "Someone just died"

Respecting death is, or was pretty ingrained/important with the Buddhist ideology that zoro is based off of.

Here, oda just completely negates all that. Makes zoro say something out of character. All for what? To give an excuse for goofy failing his promise?

Instead of this being a learning moment/character development for goofy and the shp, oda uses zoro and lilith to downplay it completely.

Even when the shp fail, they are not allowed to think they've failed. It's trash writing.

No it's not the same
With Yasuie zoro felt angry
What zoro is trying to say is as a younko is okay if luffy is sad and crying but he shouldn't be so depressed and should get over with it soon: that's should be a yonko image and what do you want me to say he is right
If you remember this it's the same that Jinbe told him after ace death but we should all know Zoro's character he always says things in a harsh way but without hurting feelings (like davy back fight chopper or Ussop can't go back to the crew till he apologise)

This is not the same at all.

What zoro should have said is to learn from the mistake. Not downplay the death of punk and the broken promise of goofy.

 

[Peroroncino]

not even remotely the same

 

[kumae]

What zoro should have said is to learn from the mistake. Not downplay the death of punk and the broken promise of goofy.

What you mean? He didn't even downplay the death he is saying that luffy should stop moaning like a bitch and get over with

 

[Marimo_420]

Lol.

Zoro saying don't laugh at anyone's death ≠ Zoro telling Luffy to not act pathetic and let death dictate you.

He's never moped about Yasues death chapters later, only pissed off people were laughing at him.

Another reason Luffytards should thank Zoro for not being there.
- Firstly the shit vegapunk dies.
- Secondly, if Zoro was there he would have killed Nika for laughing at someone's death.

 

[park_min young]

Zoro saying that to Luffy is consistent with his character. He knows the image that Luffy has to somewhat uphold, he’s been the iron grip voice of reason to Luffy ever since pre-ts. I see where he’s coming from, the crew is on top of the world now. Luffy should stop looking pathetic for long periods of time and instead act as a pillar.

The second one is Zoro calling out a completely unhinged behavior, nothing is actually contradictory here. There’s also a thing called expectations of roles, Luffy has to act as that unyielding pillar and Zoro knows it. If the leader shows such weakness then the rest will follow.

 

[Kumathegoat]

Zoro doesn't know shit about the shit Punk has done.

You are wrong mate.

Zoro is completely aware of the all the shit Vegapunk did.

He was the one to notice that kuma was a cyborg

He completely understands the dangers of the pacifista project

And he was the one to connect the dots that the seraphin were made of experiments with lunarians and prisioners devil fruits.

He has always knew that Vegapunk was a fraud that caused the Ohara incident and that the world is a better place without Stella.

Plus

He saved the only Vegapunk worth saving

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

zoro got cursed like his swords

sandai gave him loss of directions and Enma gave him bipolarity

cursed blades truly exist in op even if the master swordsmith who created one of the sword said cursed blades don't exist

Luffy met Zoro the 1st time because he was lost. He told Luffy he lost his way home. So the blades did nothing to him

 

[Sir Yasheen]

No just an alcoholic. You see Yasuies death didn’t interrupt his drinking, Vegapunks death is. As such he’s a bit bitchy right now.

 

[SakazOuki]

Context is entirely different, thread doesn’t make sense I’m afraid

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

He is saying not saying that you should laugh and party, but he thinks Luffy as a yonko should still mantain a certain degree of composure in his grief.

 

[HA001]

Zoro saying that to Luffy is consistent with his character. He knows the image that Luffy has to somewhat uphold, he’s been the iron grip voice of reason to Luffy ever since pre-ts. I see where he’s coming from, the crew is on top of the world now. Luffy should stop looking pathetic for long periods of time and instead act as a pillar.

The second one is Zoro calling out a completely unhinged behavior, nothing is actually contradictory here. There’s also a thing called expectations of roles, Luffy has to act as that unyielding pillar and Zoro knows it. If the leader shows such weakness then the rest will follow.

It's worse people are happy to give luffy the free pass for failing
Liliths survival has nothing to do with Leo.
Letting luffy off the hook for failing does nothing but make him look bad

 

[Kiri]

Short answer: He's an idiot

Longer answer: This comparison you're making is dumb, because he doesn't understand why everyone is literally "LMAO'ING" over a kind old mans death, right in front of his eyes.

And you're comparing that to him talking about luffy being a crybaby over one old dudes death, after the fact.

 

[kekaro]

He is just a edgy retard it ain't that deep, like his character

 

[Garp the Fist]

I‘d be concerned if I was an old person around Oda.

That’s twice this arc Oda’s had someone basically say old people should just die

I think the man plots to use his millions to solve Japan’s elderly crisis in a very dark way

Watch out when you’re walking near the stairs, Oda‘s parents.

 

[Kumathegoat]

He is just a edgy retard it ain't that deep, like his character

You mean Vegapunk the dumbest character in fiction?

 

[kekaro]

You mean Vegapunk the dumbest character in fiction?

https://www.youtube.com/live/7hFMigc7NBU?si=j8BgWG69zAYOX5jU&t=526
Nah I'm talking about edge man
@Fujishiro The Relevant part is at 8:45 and I think he is hitting the issue on the head
also @Gauntlet

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

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This is the same personality though. Zoro wasn't crying like a bitch and refusing to eat because Yasuie died, he was pissed off at what he thought were people disrespecting him.

He thinks Luffy shouldn't be crying like a bitch that's all.

 

[Fujishiro]

I would love to learn this story

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Fuji I think you love backshots from Zboys.

There isnt a story, hes confusing me with someone else lol.

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Lol.

Zoro saying don't laugh at anyone's death ≠ Zoro telling Luffy to not act pathetic and let death dictate you.

He's never moped about Yasues death chapters later, only pissed off people were laughing at him.

Another reason Luffytards should thank Zoro for not being there.
- Firstly the shit vegapunk dies.
- Secondly, if Zoro was there he would have killed Nika for laughing at someone's death.

He let Yasuies death dictate his emotions though, even swore to avenge him.

He got mad when he thought Kiku died.

My point isnt about Luffy crying its about Zoro showing emotion to someones death but then saying Luffy shouldnt show emotion at someones death.

Its just weird to me thats all.

 

[kumae]

There isnt a story, hes confusing me with someone else lol.

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He let Yasuies death dictate his emotions though, even swore to avenge him.

He got mad when he thought Kiku died.

My point isnt about Luffy crying its about Zoro showing emotion to someones death but then saying Luffy shouldnt show emotion at someones death.

Its just weird to me thats all.

He didn't said that luffy shouldn't show any emotion he said that VP death shouldn't affect him this badly.It's different concept

 

[Ven437]

Oda class-level writing