General & Others The admirals are not Sakazuki’s all star equivalent
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Or he simply was not intrested or had backup.
And yes, he was weaker, but was totally comparable to them imho.
Fuji has one of the most broken fruit, possibly. All depends on what Oda wants for him.
But it's not checklist: what I am saying Is that Oda gives Saijos only to the most formidabile characters (Roger, WB, Mihawk, ecc...) and now Fujitora is one of them. It's quite telling.
Ryo, as I said, might just have a Black Blade on top of a Logia, and so on.
I am even convinced Akainu Is going to have 5 for multiple reasons, but the point Is that Mihawk too has a 3b bounty becuase he Is a subordinate, Aokiji will too and Ray will too.
And yes, he was weaker, but was totally comparable to them imho.
Fuji has one of the most broken fruit, possibly. All depends on what Oda wants for him.
But it's not checklist: what I am saying Is that Oda gives Saijos only to the most formidabile characters (Roger, WB, Mihawk, ecc...) and now Fujitora is one of them. It's quite telling.
Ryo, as I said, might just have a Black Blade on top of a Logia, and so on.
I am even convinced Akainu Is going to have 5 for multiple reasons, but the point Is that Mihawk too has a 3b bounty becuase he Is a subordinate, Aokiji will too and Ray will too.
I don’t think there was ever a moment where Kizaru seemed comparable to the other two. Even in Marineford, Oda had Marco and Jozu be shown comparable and when Jozu went up against Kuzan he lost an arm and was defeated badly but Kizaru couldn’t do the same for Marco.
Fujis fruit isn’t broken, it’s a significantly weaker version of Blackbeards fruit afterall. And yeah any top tier is worthy of a Saijo. The swordsman admiral not having a saijo would be disrespectful.
Akainu isn’t going to have 5; he’ll have 4 stars. Mihawk was given a 3.6 billion bounty as he hasn’t done anything recently so the world government doesn’t know what he’s capable of, same with Crocs 1.9.
Again, there’s never been a moment where Kizaru seemed comparable to the others two he always appeared a tier below.
Fujis fruit isn’t broken, it’s a significantly weaker version of Blackbeards fruit afterall. And yeah any top tier is worthy of a Saijo. The swordsman admiral not having a saijo would be disrespectful.
Akainu isn’t going to have 5; he’ll have 4 stars. Mihawk was given a 3.6 billion bounty as he hasn’t done anything recently so the world government doesn’t know what he’s capable of, same with Crocs 1.9.
Again, there’s never been a moment where Kizaru seemed comparable to the others two he always appeared a tier below.
Not at all.
In fact Kizaru got the stronger one and the One with the most troublesome ability by far.
Fuji's and BB's have nothing in common, what are you saying?
BB's can only attract people that have eaten fruits and absorb attacks/matter; Fuji can manipulate gravity in any shape or form and cannot absord anything.
And no: Oden didn't have a Saijo, just to say one.
That's just cope or a very misguided opinion: the Marine knows all too well what Mihawk's is capable of and even when they decided to give him a new one, they went for that.
Akainu will have 5 imho, there are various hints:
- a system usually ends with 10 or 5 (like real bouties of the WG, with WB and Roger having 5.X), 4 is just weird;
- there Is a clear resemblance with Doflamingo's star system (4 wanted men with 3 stars, no one with 4 and one with 5). The crown system Is clearly a rip off of that and surprise? We had four bounties with 3 crowns;
- There Is clearly a deep connection between Akainu and Dragon, now they are both heads of their organizations and Dragon has a 5b+ bounty, so It make sense Akainu has 5 crowns.
And again, no.
Kizaru Is Indeed behind them, but has never been a tier under them.
In fact Kizaru got the stronger one and the One with the most troublesome ability by far.
Fuji's and BB's have nothing in common, what are you saying?
BB's can only attract people that have eaten fruits and absorb attacks/matter; Fuji can manipulate gravity in any shape or form and cannot absord anything.
And no: Oden didn't have a Saijo, just to say one.
That's just cope or a very misguided opinion: the Marine knows all too well what Mihawk's is capable of and even when they decided to give him a new one, they went for that.
Akainu will have 5 imho, there are various hints:
- a system usually ends with 10 or 5 (like real bouties of the WG, with WB and Roger having 5.X), 4 is just weird;
- there Is a clear resemblance with Doflamingo's star system (4 wanted men with 3 stars, no one with 4 and one with 5). The crown system Is clearly a rip off of that and surprise? We had four bounties with 3 crowns;
- There Is clearly a deep connection between Akainu and Dragon, now they are both heads of their organizations and Dragon has a 5b+ bounty, so It make sense Akainu has 5 crowns.
And again, no.
Kizaru Is Indeed behind them, but has never been a tier under them.
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The problem is that people are using this to claim EoS Sanji = EoS Zoro = EoS Luffy.
Their logic is that both Luffy and Admirals are top tier, and since Zoro and Sanji will fight Admirals, that means Zoro and Sanji will be top tiers too, and since all top tiers are (allegedly) close in strength, that means that EoS Zoro and Sanji will be near equals to EoS Luffy.
This logic is retarded because:
1. Top tier is a fan-made term
2. Why can’t EoS Luffy become something beyond “top tier”? Why can’t he be “god tier”?
Sanji has consistently been a low/mid diff throughout the entire story for Luffy, and Zoro has consistently been a mid/high diff. It’s retarded to think that Oda will randomly make Zoro and Sanji catch up to Luffy, or that Luffy somehow won’t get more powerups. We saw literally just a few chapters ago that Luffy’s Haki has much room for improvement since EoS Luffy’s Haki will obviously match or surpass Shanks/Joyboy’s
Their logic is that both Luffy and Admirals are top tier, and since Zoro and Sanji will fight Admirals, that means Zoro and Sanji will be top tiers too, and since all top tiers are (allegedly) close in strength, that means that EoS Zoro and Sanji will be near equals to EoS Luffy.
This logic is retarded because:
1. Top tier is a fan-made term
2. Why can’t EoS Luffy become something beyond “top tier”? Why can’t he be “god tier”?
Sanji has consistently been a low/mid diff throughout the entire story for Luffy, and Zoro has consistently been a mid/high diff. It’s retarded to think that Oda will randomly make Zoro and Sanji catch up to Luffy, or that Luffy somehow won’t get more powerups. We saw literally just a few chapters ago that Luffy’s Haki has much room for improvement since EoS Luffy’s Haki will obviously match or surpass Shanks/Joyboy’s
The admirals are not just Sakazuki’s equivalent of kaido’s all stars. They’re actually top tiers comparable to him not just fodder subordinates
In no world are luffy zoro and sanji having high diff+ solo fights against admirals at the same time. Unless Sakazuki becomes insanely strong to the point the admirals are fodder to him surpassing every known character or all of sudden the admirals bec
If Sakazuki happens to be a main arc antagonist for luffy it is significantly more likely that the gap between zoro and sanji’s opponents in comparison to Sakazuki is the same as it was in onigashima and egghead
Aka
Kaido >>>>> king > queen
Kizaru >>>>> lucci > kaku
Sakazuki >>>>> zoro opponent > sanji opp
If luffy can keep fighting characters relative to kaido and kizaru which akainu is zoro can fight characters relative to king and lucci and sanji to queen and kaku
Even against Blackbeard it’s not like zoro is going to fight Kuzan he’s going to have to deal with shiryu. A character even zoro fans don’t like putting above king (despite the fact he is)
By the time zoro and sanji do actually matchup against actual top tiers luffy’s opponents are still going to be significantly stronger
I see some still don't understand the difference between Luffy and Zoro opponents and the purpose they serve. One Piece is not a fighting manga. It's an adventure and journey manga.
Luffy is a liberator and his opponents are typically tyrants who he must defeat to free the people of the land. We see that pattern in almost every arc. That's why he's the warrior of liberation.
How Luffy defeats his opponents has never mattered. All that matters is Luffy wins. Nor has it ever mattered whether Luffy becomes stronger than his opponent. That is the reason during Luffy's battles we have seen him receive help, given me food for energy, given advantages over his opponent, given his opponent weaknesses, and/or face his opponent multiple times. The only thing that's important is him beating them and freeing the people of the land.
Even in Egghead Island Luffy was given food multiple times to keep fighting.
Zoro's opponents are stepping stones that help him prepare to face Mihawk. His opponents help him grow stronger, obtain a new power/skill, identify/remove weakness and/or show off power/ability/skill/strength in a certain area.
- Pica showed off Zoro's monstrous strength
- Kaido and Big Mom showed off Zoro's powerful CoA haki, offensive and defensive power.
- Zoro 1 vs 1 against hybrid Kaido showed off Zoro's CQC skill.
- King helped Zoro obtain ACoC and showed off his mobility.
- Lucci showed off Zoro's speed.
Zoro's strength isn't determined by the opponent he faced or beat. Instead it's by the power and strength he possess.
This power gap some believe exist between Luffy and Zoro is headcannon. Those two have always been equal or near equal throughout the entire manga. People need to remember the rooftop. Some were confident Zoro was nowhere close to Luffy or the other supernova captains level because he's a subordinate. Then rooftop happened and the manga proved them wrong. Zoro outperformed all of the SN on the rooftop and proved he was the strongest. Even on Egghead Island Zoro was the only one able to force a Gorosei to block an attack.
Luffy is a liberator and his opponents are typically tyrants who he must defeat to free the people of the land. We see that pattern in almost every arc. That's why he's the warrior of liberation.
How Luffy defeats his opponents has never mattered. All that matters is Luffy wins. Nor has it ever mattered whether Luffy becomes stronger than his opponent. That is the reason during Luffy's battles we have seen him receive help, given me food for energy, given advantages over his opponent, given his opponent weaknesses, and/or face his opponent multiple times. The only thing that's important is him beating them and freeing the people of the land.
Even in Egghead Island Luffy was given food multiple times to keep fighting.
Zoro's opponents are stepping stones that help him prepare to face Mihawk. His opponents help him grow stronger, obtain a new power/skill, identify/remove weakness and/or show off power/ability/skill/strength in a certain area.
- Pica showed off Zoro's monstrous strength
- Kaido and Big Mom showed off Zoro's powerful CoA haki, offensive and defensive power.
- Zoro 1 vs 1 against hybrid Kaido showed off Zoro's CQC skill.
- King helped Zoro obtain ACoC and showed off his mobility.
- Lucci showed off Zoro's speed.
Zoro's strength isn't determined by the opponent he faced or beat. Instead it's by the power and strength he possess.
This power gap some believe exist between Luffy and Zoro is headcannon. Those two have always been equal or near equal throughout the entire manga. People need to remember the rooftop. Some were confident Zoro was nowhere close to Luffy or the other supernova captains level because he's a subordinate. Then rooftop happened and the manga proved them wrong. Zoro outperformed all of the SN on the rooftop and proved he was the strongest. Even on Egghead Island Zoro was the only one able to force a Gorosei to block an attack.
