News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread
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"Yet, due to the interference of the 'Clown,' the Cross Guild embarks on an unexpected journey... What does 'Hawk Eyes' seek? Peace, or perhaps the 'One Piece'?"
"He dismisses idle chatter with a laugh but agrees with hiding in the shadow of a Yonko. However, Buggy's declaration throws Mihawk's strategy into disarray."
Nothing but sheer illiteracy.
There is not a single shred of evidence anywhere except the voices in your head... which says Mihawk dreamt of being a PK and then failed.
He is being forced against his will (just like Crocodile) to participate in the current race for One Piece due to Buggy's interference.
"He dismisses idle chatter with a laugh but agrees with hiding in the shadow of a Yonko. However, Buggy's declaration throws Mihawk's strategy into disarray."
Nothing but sheer illiteracy.
There is not a single shred of evidence anywhere except the voices in your head... which says Mihawk dreamt of being a PK and then failed.
He is being forced against his will (just like Crocodile) to participate in the current race for One Piece due to Buggy's interference.
How are we feeling @MonsterKaido ? 
I think my interpretation is more consistent with their characters. I don't think either Mihawk or Shanks are delusional about their strength. My view is that Mihawk doesn't think a one-armed man can be a swordsman while Shanks thinks that despite his loss of an arm it would still be a contest. Remember Shanks had no problem with the idea of a duel and even kinda threatened Mihawk that he was in a bad mood. Your interpretation has to put Shanks in the position of delusional which is something Oda hasn't portrayed . Mine maintains Mihawk's integrity with the idea of a swordsman, while also maintaining that Shanks isn't being foolish about his chances in a fight.
Regarding his arm, I would love for that to be a storytelling device. I always imagined that Luffy would be told by Beckman or someone that Shanks would have beaten Teach if he had both arms (Assuming he dies to Teach). That would give great narrative weight to Luffy's confrontation with Teach. The problem with this is that an earlier databook said he didn't lose strength as a result of losing his arm.
I don't think that comparison works. I think Oda was telling us with Buggy that Shanks had PK potential. So it isn't like with Yamato where there is no indication that she has Kaido level potential. When they clash she even comments that her Bagua is inferior.
Shanks having PK potential and then using the PK's only named move is telling me narratively that Oda is going the direction of Shanks being as strong as Roger. He even plugged in the hole of him not being PK by having him tell Buggy he wasn't going after the OP.
Yeah it would be amazing to see. The previous vivre card says they sharpened swords against each other which means they used each other to get stronger.
With all the above, I'm still fine if they're equal
As far as we know they are the only top tiers who regularly duelled to the point of them being legendary. They are probably the most skilled combatants we should realistically see. Mihawk for instance couldn't even get tagged off-guard at MF.
Regarding his arm, I would love for that to be a storytelling device. I always imagined that Luffy would be told by Beckman or someone that Shanks would have beaten Teach if he had both arms (Assuming he dies to Teach). That would give great narrative weight to Luffy's confrontation with Teach. The problem with this is that an earlier databook said he didn't lose strength as a result of losing his arm.
I don't think that comparison works. I think Oda was telling us with Buggy that Shanks had PK potential. So it isn't like with Yamato where there is no indication that she has Kaido level potential. When they clash she even comments that her Bagua is inferior.
Shanks having PK potential and then using the PK's only named move is telling me narratively that Oda is going the direction of Shanks being as strong as Roger. He even plugged in the hole of him not being PK by having him tell Buggy he wasn't going after the OP.
Yeah it would be amazing to see. The previous vivre card says they sharpened swords against each other which means they used each other to get stronger.
With all the above, I'm still fine if they're equal
As far as we know they are the only top tiers who regularly duelled to the point of them being legendary. They are probably the most skilled combatants we should realistically see. Mihawk for instance couldn't even get tagged off-guard at MF.