News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

Why would Sakazuki get a PK level bounty? And look at Doffys stars, the 5 star isn’t for some leader of the enemy’s, it’s for a special fighter.

That bounty willl be withheld until Luffys Gael equivalent gets it.
I said why, imho:

- because a system that ends with 4 Is Just wierd. It's either 5 or 10;

- because Doflamingo's system (of which the CG's Is a ripoff) was the same with the exact same distribution, and that heavily hints at no one at 4 and one at 5;

- Dragon's bounty we know already Is at 5, and Akainu and Dragon clearly have a deep connection that will be explained in the future and now are both heads of their respective organizations:





 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
No they’re not based on rank. Not all VAs and captains have the same bounty.
They do, the exceptions are specific characters being upgraded to another ranks bounty. Based on what CG perceives their rank should be.

This was outright stated.

Garp got an Admiral rank bounty.
Coby got a VA rank bounty.
 
I said why, imho:

- because a system that ends with 4 Is Just wierd. It's either 5 or 10;

- because Doflamingo's system (of which the CG's Is a ripoff) was the same with the exact same distribution, and that heavily hints at no one at 4 and one at 5;

- Dragon's bounty we know already Is at 5, and Akainu and Dragon clearly have a deep connection that will be explained in the future and now are both heads of their respective organizations:





1. Just because Sakazuki doesn’t get a 5 doesn’t mean he’ll have the highest bounty in the marines. Luffys Garp equivalency will
2. Dragons bounty isn’t revealed or hinted idk where you get that we know dragons bounty we literally don’t know any of it.
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They do, the exceptions are specific characters being upgraded to another ranks bounty. Based on what CG perceives their rank should be.

This was outright stated.

Garp got an Admiral rank bounty.
Coby got a VA rank bounty.
So it is personalized for prominent characters?
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
I’m skeptical about the BBPs bounties being revealed in the next VC, especially Kuzan’s. Don’t see why Oda wouldn’t just reveal his with the rest of the Admirals’. Might just never get his bounty, like we never got Oden’s
Among the Beast Pirates only Queen's & Jack's bounty were revealed in the manga, rest came in the Vivre Cards.
There's a good chance we're getting BBP bounties similarily too. Though, Aokiji's should come in the manga imo.
 
1. Just because Sakazuki doesn’t get a 5 doesn’t mean he’ll have the highest bounty in the marines. Luffys Garp equivalency will
Potentially, Kong can have 5, but I doubt It. He Is way to irrelevant for the plot.

2. Dragons bounty isn’t revealed or hinted idk where you get that we know dragons bounty we literally don’t know any of it.


This was when WB was still alive.

Worst criminal screams of highest bounty to me, since bounty should be basically that: the highest the wrost the criminal Is.
Also, It would be kind of silly, imho, to have the worst criminal in the world without the highest bounty or at least on the level of the highest.

Anyway, It wasn't said clearly so one can obv. disagree.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
So it is personalized for prominent characters?
"Personalized" for characters who CG deems doesn't fit their rank.

The rank bounties are set in stone though. Each rank has a set of stars or crowns.

Admiral rank = 3 Crowns
VA rank = 5 stars
Captain rank = 1 star

Coby was valued at VA rank, Garp was valued at Admiral rank. If CG deems your rank doesn't indicate your actual rank, they will just upgrade you to the appropriate rank.

I think each rank has an appropriate amount. 3 bil is a solid default for Admiral rank. I think 4 bill is too much for a rank based bounty. You have Yonkou scraping by with 3 Bil, Teach even had 2.2 earlier. So I think 3 bil is a solid spot.
 
Among the Beast Pirates only Queen's & Jack's bounty were revealed in the manga, rest came in the Vivre Cards.
There's a good chance we're getting BBP bounties similarily too. Though, Aokiji's should come in the manga imo.
I’d hope that Oda intends to treat the BBPs with more respect than he gave to the Least Pirates (we still don’t even have any confirmation if Jack and the F6 died in Onigashima or not)
 
"Personalized" for characters who CG deems doesn't fit their rank.

The rank bounties are set in stone though. Each rank has a set of stars or crowns.

Admiral rank = 3 Crowns
VA rank = 5 stars
Captain rank = 1 star

Coby was valued at VA rank, Garp was valued at Admiral rank. If CG deems your rank doesn't indicate your actual rank, they will just upgrade you to the appropriate rank.

I think each rank has an appropriate amount. 3 bil is a solid default for Admiral rank. I think 4 bill is too much for a rank based bounty. You have Yonkou scraping by with 3 Bil, Teach even had 2.2 earlier. So I think 3 bil is a solid spot.
The WG bounties have tiers like this too? The fact that individuals do get unique CG bounties is enough proof that they narratively share the same reasoning as the WG Bounties. There’s just a lot more fodder in the Marines than there are in any pirate crew.
Potentially, Kong can have 5, but I doubt It. He Is way to irrelevant for the plot.





This was when WB was still alive.

Worst criminal screams of highest bounty to me, since bounty should be basically that: the highest the wrost the criminal Is.
Also, It would be kind of silly, imho, to have the worst criminal in the world without the highest bounty or at least on the level of the highest.

Anyway, It wasn't said clearly so one can obv. disagree.
Worst Criminal just means he’s committed horrid crimes not the highest bounty.
 
Worst Criminal just means he’s committed horrid crimes not the highest bounty.
Agree to disagree.

Worst criminal means exactly that for me, since the worst the criminal Is, the higher the bounty Is.
The Marine Is not some kind of church, there aren't good crimes and bad crimes: worst criminal means bigger crimes, and we know Revs are the only one that actually attacks the WG, and bigger/worst crimes means bigger bounty.
 
Agree to disagree.

Worst criminal means exaclty that for me, since the worst the criminal Is, the higher the bounty Is.
The Marine Is not some kind or church, there aren't good crimes and bad crimes: worst criminal means bigger crimes, and we know Revs are the only one that actually attacks the WG, and bigger/worst crimes means bigger bounty.
The average bounty for a rev commander is 400 million.

The revs number 2 was 600 million

So I highly doubt dragons at 5 when his subordinates didn’t even cross 1 billion
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
The WG bounties have tiers like this too? The fact that individuals do get unique CG bounties is enough proof that they narratively share the same reasoning as the WG Bounties. There’s just a lot more fodder in the Marines than there are in any pirate crew.

Worst Criminal just means he’s committed horrid crimes not the highest bounty.
Nah WG bounties have very specific and unique numbers, Yonkou alone can range from 2.2 Bil to over 5 bil.

CG bounties are rank based and are a set amount. If Kuzan was still in the navy he would have 3 bil like his rankmates.
 
Nah WG bounties have very specific and unique numbers, Yonkou alone can range from 2.2 Bil to over 5 bil.

CG bounties are rank based and are a set amount. If Kuzan was still in the navy he would have 3 bil like his rankmates.
And VA bounties range from 500 million to 3 billion? What’s the difference?
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For now.
Sabo's original one Is also very old.

I expect Flame Emperor Sabo to be no less than 3b to be honest.
Then you’re setting yourself up to be disappointed.
 
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