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Wdym sis? They were kills just got unlucky with timing and targets.

You can say they arent kills but they are, they work. Just got unlucky. You shot Kiku who was shown to be unkillable and then Ultra who was eating kills and actions like candy, twice.

If you shot Yoho he dies, if you shot TAC he dies, if you shot Lemon he dies, if you shot Mango at night he dies, if you shot Apollo at the right time he dies, if you shot Random asshole he dies.

Oh well if you want to think your kills dont work feel free sis.
Ultra shouldn't be so strong. This is not my fault.

Whatever
Being immortal is bad, town with no lynch control is bad, vig is not the one to solve the game because it's an idiot who misfires if not just fire at too powerful scum.

Now you successfully upset me.
 
I was really, really pissed at this. I always get pushed by the same people who expect different results for the same pushes and reactions. When you enter a game and already get called a detriment 8 pages in and then people call you stupid for using a Time Stop ability which stops scum kills, then that is just awful. I just wanted to help people with my actions and that‘s what I got.
If you claim indy as town you need to be able to accept possible consequences
 
Also, lynching is like the one thing a host should not touch here. It's a core mechanic and the LAW of mafia games. No one should be immune to lynches. You take that away and it's like crippling townies, it's extremely demotivating knowing that even lynches are useless and that scum has an out for lynches. No one, and i mean NO ONE should have the means to dodge or be immune to lynches, it's our only most effective way of getting rid of scum.

Stuff like lynch tanking, lynch redirect, missing with lynch shinanegans should be EXTREMELY EXTREMELY rare if straight up not a thing, and if you do include it. You usually include it on a townie role or worst case scenario a serial killer or some busted indie. But not mafia. Mafia have the destructive abilities to wipe any townies from the face of this earth, towny can't do the same thing. Lynch is where townies power reside, if mafia wanna take over lynching a townie, then they need to put in the effort thread wise, lead and make a mislynch happen.

Just my couple cents here. Nothing personal.
Ratchet has 1, TAC has 1.
Ultra has two.

---Red--- Target a player and paint them Red, making them the target of a lynch redirect if there is one that phase.
---Ochre---
Target a player and paint them Ochre, rendering them immune to lynch redirect.
[Active - Equalizer]
He tends to hate nobility and believes that they're to blame for much of this world's plights. And even if he knows not all nobles should be fought, it doesn't change his dislike for those who hold inherent political power. Kelsier can target a lynch wagon and make it immune to any kind of manipulation.

@Michelle @Adam 🍎
 
So the game concludes, I will say this I'm not a fan of passive requirements in roles, sure if your into role playing it can be fun but sometimes you just gotta let the player play their style of game. Thank you for the game though Fuji and Dr professor, these games are always a heavy task and I for one who has hosted 2 favorites before know the feeling of crafting multiple roles and some peeps just not having a good time. Shit happens, it's part of these thankless hobbies, These games are very time consuming and mentally and emotionally exhausting at times so I appreciate you the hosts who dedicated hours of their lives to bringing this game together.

Now people have a right to be unhappy, some are valid and some are just in the heat of the moment. I say don't let this game sour you on these types of games, it's just a spectacle after all, I know it can get heated but we need to remember it's just a game, we are all here to pass the time and have fun.
 
Ratchet has 1, TAC has 1.
Ultra has two.

---Red--- Target a player and paint them Red, making them the target of a lynch redirect if there is one that phase.
---Ochre---
Target a player and paint them Ochre, rendering them immune to lynch redirect.
[Active - Equalizer]
He tends to hate nobility and believes that they're to blame for much of this world's plights. And even if he knows not all nobles should be fought, it doesn't change his dislike for those who hold inherent political power. Kelsier can target a lynch wagon and make it immune to any kind of manipulation.

@Michelle @Adam 🍎
Fuji let them be 💀

Spare yourself lol
 
So the game concludes, I will say this I'm not a fan of passive requirements in roles, sure if your into role playing it can be fun but sometimes you just gotta let the player play their style of game. Thank you for the game though Fuji and Dr professor, these games are always a heavy task and I for one who has hosted 2 favorites before know the feeling of crafting multiple roles and some peeps just not having a good time. Shit happens, it's part of these thankless hobbies, These games are very time consuming and mentally and emotionally exhausting at times so I appreciate you the hosts who dedicated hours of their lives to bringing this game together.

Now people have a right to be unhappy, some are valid and some are just in the heat of the moment. I say don't let this game sour you on these types of games, it's just a spectacle after all, I know it can get heated but we need to remember it's just a game, we are all here to pass the time and have fun.
But you didn't play at all tho?
 

Saber

King of Knights
So the game concludes, I will say this I'm not a fan of passive requirements in roles, sure if your into role playing it can be fun but sometimes you just gotta let the player play their style of game. Thank you for the game though Fuji and Dr professor, these games are always a heavy task and I for one who has hosted 2 favorites before know the feeling of crafting multiple roles and some peeps just not having a good time. Shit happens, it's part of these thankless hobbies, These games are very time consuming and mentally and emotionally exhausting at times so I appreciate you the hosts who dedicated hours of their lives to bringing this game together.

Now people have a right to be unhappy, some are valid and some are just in the heat of the moment. I say don't let this game sour you on these types of games, it's just a spectacle after all, I know it can get heated but we need to remember it's just a game, we are all here to pass the time and have fun.
the man himself has spoken
 
Ultra shouldn't be so strong. This is not my fault.

Whatever
Being immortal is bad, town with no lynch control is bad, vig is not the one to solve the game because it's an idiot who misfires if not just fire at too powerful scum.

Now you successfully upset me.
Sister, I keep telling you this is false.

Im sorry If I upset you. I didnt mean to.

And Ultra wasnt immortal at all. He could dodge a kill and had a 50% change to dodge actions, thats it.

He just used his bus drives and hides well.

I understand that you didnt know his role at all and thus took him as a threat when in reality he was harmless, he couldnt kill on his own at all.

Hes basically just a troll role.
 
Ratchet has 1, TAC has 1.
Ultra has two.

---Red--- Target a player and paint them Red, making them the target of a lynch redirect if there is one that phase.
---Ochre---
Target a player and paint them Ochre, rendering them immune to lynch redirect.
[Active - Equalizer]
He tends to hate nobility and believes that they're to blame for much of this world's plights. And even if he knows not all nobles should be fought, it doesn't change his dislike for those who hold inherent political power. Kelsier can target a lynch wagon and make it immune to any kind of manipulation.

@Michelle @Adam 🍎
again it 1 shot, and only able to use it on conq/cal slot last day phase.

no one refilled me before I died.
 
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