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All three are permanent. You dont need to misfire 12 times to lose.
then its unfortunately mathematically unbalanced

town is punished for abstaining. scums have too many kills. in another universe mafia kills saber and yotan early game and town insta LOSES right then and there

id suggest remove a quarter of the town kills and replace them by enabling a night lynch every other night maybe. that might bridge the gap a bit
 
Putting a player on ignore doesn't ignore their actions flower
It‘s better for morale tho if you just stop interacting with them. I could see Lanji being completely angry because Kiku was mocking him so much. I pretty much gave up myself after D3/D4 and only helped Nao and Melkor cook up abilities. I think morale was a huge factor which contributed to Town losing here.
 
Day 1 we mislynched Flower who claimed indy and I don't care about why she did it, this shouldn't be a town claim, ever.
Day 2 we tried to lynch TAC. Didn't work.
Day 3 i forgot who was the top wagon, Ultra or TAC
Next days, each one, TAC was the first lynch wagon. He escaped lynch so many times that I think my sentence is correct.

I am not blaming you, it's a thing I noticed in many games.
Give the lynch to town, don't let town without it like that. And stop merging the scum teams, they already know that if they hide until one moment they can win by merging.
Again, I am not arguing, I wish for better games, where you as host have the means to obligate players to actually play mafia.
The lynch is given to town, you keep ignoring that Melkor and Naomis roles exist but they do. And Red Night to deal with TAC.

Like I dont understand there is counterplay here.
 
then its unfortunately mathematically unbalanced

town is punished for abstaining. scums have too many kills.

id suggest remove a quarter of the town kills and enable a night lynch every other night maybe. that might bridge the gap a bit
You dont need them but they did happen and again there were multiple unkillable or almost immortal town roles.

Eh whatever, please dont quote me again. Feel free to keep doing the usual routine of criticizing every single setup you play though.

in another universe mafia kills saber and yotan early game and town insta LOSES right then and there
Except they literally cant do that you clown.
 
then its unfortunately mathematically unbalanced

town is punished for abstaining. scums have too many kills. in another universe mafia kills saber and yotan early game and town insta LOSES right then and there
Town has multiple kills and are harder to kill then mafia dude except for Kiku and Pot and like Ratchet if you arent top 5. Like please stop the bullshit here.
 
You misfired a lot, like a lot Ekko.

If Red Night removed TAC Night 2 and then removed Mango Night 3.

Then you guys wouldve worked through the POE.

Saitama if he wasnt outed by Flower wouldve game removed another scum and he was literally unkillable besides Kikus delete and lynch.

Multiple town were like that btw.

Mafia cant brute force anything.

They cant undo kills, and no scum revived except for Cal. And why would you lynch them when you can just kill them?
Because my kills weren't really kills?
Now that's completely unfair to tell
 
And lynches worked if you used Melkor and Naomis roles.
Also, lynching is like the one thing a host should not touch here. It's a core mechanic and the LAW of mafia games. No one should be immune to lynches. You take that away and it's like crippling townies, it's extremely demotivating knowing that even lynches are useless and that scum has an out for lynches. No one, and i mean NO ONE should have the means to dodge or be immune to lynches, it's our only most effective way of getting rid of scum.

Stuff like lynch tanking, lynch redirect, missing with lynch shinanegans should be EXTREMELY EXTREMELY rare if straight up not a thing, and if you do include it. You usually include it on a townie role or worst case scenario a serial killer or some busted indie. But not mafia. Mafia have the destructive abilities to wipe any townies from the face of this earth, towny can't do the same thing. Lynch is where townies power reside, if mafia wanna take over lynching a townie, then they need to put in the effort thread wise, lead and make a mislynch happen.

Just my couple cents here. Nothing personal.
 
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