[FNZ] Super Role Madness Weebs: New Beginnings

[MangoSenpai]

i was so jealous of Ultra's role all game.

it was made for me

 

[Dr_Professor83]

So the game concludes, I will say this I'm not a fan of passive requirements in roles, sure if your into role playing it can be fun but sometimes you just gotta let the player play their style of game. Thank you for the game though Fuji and Dr professor, these games are always a heavy task and I for one who has hosted 2 favorites before know the feeling of crafting multiple roles and some peeps just not having a good time. Shit happens, it's part of these thankless hobbies, These games are very time consuming and mentally and emotionally exhausting at times so I appreciate you the hosts who dedicated hours of their lives to bringing this game together.

Now people have a right to be unhappy, some are valid and some are just in the heat of the moment. I say don't let this game sour you on these types of games, it's just a spectacle after all, I know it can get heated but we need to remember it's just a game, we are all here to pass the time and have fun.

A fair chunk of the mechanics in this game comes from various inspirations from both you and Novas lol. So as we conclude want to give you a hat tip for laying a lot of the trailblazing that got us here on some of the cooler mechanics in the game lol

 

[Peroroncino]

Sure, but meta exists. People have different patterns of behavior. If you see somebody only ever did X as X and that‘s been true for a dozen games or even more, and then you expect a player to be Y despite doing X again, that‘s really just on you.

Ratchet used to be on the "i never lie as indie" too until he did.

 

[Fujishiro]

TAC game removed himself.
If town targeted TAC with that TAC is not lynched because he is removed anyway.

Did you read Red Nights role? You asked me to quote it for you.

 

[Peroroncino]

i was so jealous of Ultra's role all game.

it was made for me

Who wasnt?
He could just sit there and do nothing and still win

 

[Fujishiro]

again it 1 shot, and only able to use it on conq/cal slot last day phase.

no one refilled me before I died.

Town has multiple refillers this game.

 

[MangoSenpai]

Who wasnt?
He could just sit there and do nothing and still win

you don't understand

 

[SoulKiller]

Melkor said he already used the lynch immune on me actually DP2 and used it to be redirected to someone else. But i still was lynch redirected? how if LM used his ability ?

@Fujishiro you keep saying LM did not use his lynch abilities, but he used it on me DP2 and made me lynch redirect immune and used the other lynch ability to go to someone else. Why it did not work?

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Town has multiple kills and are harder to kill then mafia dude except for Kiku and Pot and like Ratchet if you arent top 5. Like please stop the bullshit here.

its really true tho, look at the deaths in the game versus the amount of kills town/mafia fired

since u like comparing to novas weebs i'll give u a direct example

in novas weebs:
- mafia couldnt merge by default
- mafia had no consig, the indies werent pro mafia, there were pure hostile indie killers and cult
- mafias had the same or a worst ratio than this. it was a 60+ player game
- town had revives, mafia didnt have janitors. only disguises
- town had a lynch every other night in addition to day lynches
- mafia had extremely limited number of lynch avoids. game removes could not block lynch
- town had some ridiculously broken roles, with kills bypassing immunities, decim, tykki, etc.. i do remember a couple were also very tanky
- mafia still won, without merging, and with alot of crossfiring. town needed to do more or less the right amount of mistakes to lose


take a look at the above and contemplate how easier this game made mafia's job to be as a whole. town is punished for things that arent really mistakes, i.e abstaining or not keeping a player as second wagon (day 2 specifically). town is also not getting fully rewarded for correct actions (shooting and lynching an outed scum). you argue that one or 2 town roles hold the key to all of town's problems but did you sit down and consider what happens if melkor died n1? what if we lynched him day 1? what if saber/yotan died early? the setup can't be very reliant on few roles for it's success, and even with most of those roles surviving till very late, town still lost.

id wager even if melkor used his ability it's limited shots and he'll be killed, meanwhile mafia will just game remove the next outed scum after killing melkor. even if TAC got lynched, the next one will be protected. our counters cannot keep up with the scum stalling abilities, just mathematically

i strongly advice you to not take things personally and instead sit down and instead of pin a big portion of the loss on few town players for not doing their job, think carefully if the outcome wud have really mattered had they done their job? how perfect do u expect town to play to win this? mafia has the advantage of being able to coordinate that town do not.

also remember in nitty's favorite game, nitty wud execute (we really needed executes here BADLY) inactive players THEN distribute their abilities to town. this is a good approach to try and solve the issue when the game is being stalled by few inactive townies unable to do their job due to irl circumstances. from the rest of the active townies PoV, the game seems impossible because they dont have the answers, they dont have the key, and thus its causing them frustration

ik im sounding harsh but alot of stuff u do in ur games i dont rly enjoy, and i can attribute most of this to ur willingness to please to some players / make everyone happy. this has to be dropped if you want to be fair. if scum r complaining ignore them, if town is doing it ignore as well. u design ur own game with confidence then must become a machine when hosting it. just take in input and produce output.

 

[Yoho]

Aigt, pull up, imma slap some sense into you

Good ol Jack

 

[Dr_Professor83]

What was my locked ability and why did i get the viktor role?

If you die you steal a dead roles body for a cycle lol

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

welp way past bed time, gn

 

[Michelle]

Sure, but meta exists. People have different patterns of behavior. If you see somebody only ever did X as X and that‘s been true for a dozen games or even more, and then you expect a player to be Y despite doing X again, that‘s really just on you.

I don't keep meta as the most important tool.
It's fake-able and if you want to blame the others for not accepting your self meta, it's not like everyone has to remember what you are always doing.

 

[Fujishiro]

@Fujishiro you keep saying LM did not use his lynch abilities, but he used it on me DP2 and made me lynch redirect immune and used the other lynch ability to go to someone else. Why it did not work?

He never used Red.

And he confused abilities. Give me a second.

 

[SoulKiller]

So the game concludes, I will say this I'm not a fan of passive requirements in roles, sure if your into role playing it can be fun but sometimes you just gotta let the player play their style of game. Thank you for the game though Fuji and Dr professor, these games are always a heavy task and I for one who has hosted 2 favorites before know the feeling of crafting multiple roles and some peeps just not having a good time. Shit happens, it's part of these thankless hobbies, These games are very time consuming and mentally and emotionally exhausting at times so I appreciate you the hosts who dedicated hours of their lives to bringing this game together.

Now people have a right to be unhappy, some are valid and some are just in the heat of the moment. I say don't let this game sour you on these types of games, it's just a spectacle after all, I know it can get heated but we need to remember it's just a game, we are all here to pass the time and have fun.

You had an ability to give townies a second lynch, and you did not use it all my man. Like why???? You didn't even play tbh.

 

[Peroroncino]

Good ol Jack

I will have your head on a spike soon Yoho

 

[Fujishiro]

@Fujishiro you keep saying LM did not use his lynch abilities, but he used it on me DP2 and made me lynch redirect immune and used the other lynch ability to go to someone else. Why it did not work?

Yeah he made you immune to redirects not to lynch redirects he misread his abilities and then he never used them again.

 

[Naomi]

Town has multiple refillers this game.

yeah but no one ever try to refill me in any of your games except for mellow.

 

[Flower]

Btw had I used my protect and then somebody was killed, could I have gotten a revive off by rewriting the protect to the killed target @Fujishiro ?

 

[Dr_Professor83]

@Fujishiro you keep saying LM did not use his lynch abilities, but he used it on me DP2 and made me lynch redirect immune and used the other lynch ability to go to someone else. Why it did not work?

You didn’t get redirected on day 2