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Is Imu going to kill Kizaru?

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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#1
Okay, low-effort thread to clarify a couple of things and possible flex of FS...

1 - What did Imu do to Saturn?
2 - Kizaru's fate?


1 - While most hype riders are probably heavily impressed by what Imu did to Saturn, you know I always go in a different direction and look for logical explanations other than "OMG Imu too stronk!" What do we know for a fact?
We know that Saturn shriveled up and died, leaving only bones behind!

Sounds familiar? No? Well, it should.
Because it is a natural process of dying and decay, simply sped up.

I think what happened is that the Elders do NOT have an immortality operation performed on them nor do they have regeneration powers.
This is Imu sharing his own powers with them and keeping them alive, either through some sort of DF effect or black magic ritual or whatever.
What we just saw is Imu closing the tap and once the immortality stopped flowing, the natural age of Saturn, who is way past his normal lifespan, has kicked in and "dust to dust, ashes to ashes".

A different explanation could be that Imu controls time and freezes their aging process so the same result happened when he didn't keep doing it on Saturn... Either way, the same thing happens when Imu's power is lifted off of Saturn. The time killed him. This should naturally result in Garling being safe from the same fate as his age is normal and not kept back by Imu but another 50 years he would suffer from same thing.

Regarding their DF powers, it could be that they ate those fruits or those are also manifestations of Imu's powers but one thing is certain, we got an explanation for the shared regeneration between all of them - it is Imu's power, not theirs.


2 - Saturn died in front of Vice Admirals but one key person did NOT witness this thing - Kizaru!
The highest authority on Egghead now, will walk into the room and find a skeleton of one of the Overseers of the World, whose orders he carries out fully, even when it means killing his best friend and he will have quite something to see!

After seeing that Kizaru takes no shit from a higher authority like Akainu and considering he killed his friend and now Saturn went and died on his watch, he could end up barging into the room of power to demand answers!
Before dying Saturn even managed to say I-MU... and the present Vice Admirals clearly picked it up so when Kizaru barges in and sees the horror show he will have some questions - how and who could have done this.

As a character who almost never loses his cool, it is certainly entertaining to see him do it.
However, walking into the room of power could put a shadow of Death onto Kizaru's shoulders...

Imu will likely show himself to Kizaru and he probably wont like what he sees/hears.
I have said before that Kizaru has had his purpose served, his backstory shown and his abilities demonstrated, to a small degree.
But the fact that Oda chose to show too much of his fruit's abilities, makes me think that his fruit could really be re-used on a different character.
When you think about it, while Kizaru ever used only 3 named techniques, only one of them is a named attack! That begs for re-use.

And for Kizaru to die, Imu could be a perfect candidate considering that he managed to live through Egghead.
Just like we saw with Sabo throwing a Fire Fist at Imu and it being eaten, as well as Luffy eating Kizaru's laser shot, Imu could end up eating Kizaru.
If he can eat fire he could also eat light...

Anyway, that's it for this meeting.
What do yall think?
 
#4
I think what happened
You have no clue what happened.
even managed to say I-MU
No one has a clue whether that a name or someone, a place or random gibberish.
but one key person did NOT witness this
Does not matter. He would believe the VAs explanation. Barely a reason not to. Killing Saturn with everyone present would be a huge risk that no one is willing to take. Kizaru might even know that no VA could even pose a threat to the Gorosei.
Imu will likely show himself to Kizaru
No point in doing that.
Imu could end up eating Kizaru
What?
What do yall think?
That you should distringuish between what the reader knows and what characters know.
For everyone on Egghead there is no Imu and the word has no meaning whatsoever.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#5
You have no clue what happened.
I have some clue, based on what I saw happening.

No one has a clue whether that a name or someone, a place or random gibberish.
If VAs tell Kizaru that Saturn's last words are I-MU, he will go ask what I-MU means.

Does not matter. He would believe the VAs explanation. Barely a reason not to. Killing Saturn with everyone present would be a huge risk that no one is willing to take. Kizaru might even know that no VA could even pose a threat to the Gorosei.
You don't think he will try to get to the bottom of why highest authority dies on his watch?

No point in doing that.
We already saw it once before. He has no problem showing himself to those he wants to erase, just like Cobra...

Kill him by eating him. Silhouette style, what else...

That you should distringuish between what the reader knows and what characters know.
For everyone on Egghead there is no Imu and the word has no meaning whatsoever.
Correct but it is plenty for Kizaru to ask his superiors what Saturn's dying words mean.
 
#8
I have some clue, based on what I saw happening.
Not really.
No one has a clue how the immortality operation really works or what it really does. Grants immortality? Functional or real immortality?
People aging quickly do not tend to explode either.
Its a completely magical process that we have no further explanation on nor do we know the source of it.
If VAs tell Kizaru that Saturn's last words are I-MU, he will go ask what I-MU means
And then what? Who are they going to consult? Who is going to tell them anything useful?
There is no one. You think that if they ask the Gorosei about it they will go "ah shit, you got us..."?
On the off chance they know that Imu was the name of one of the first 20 kings I really do not see how this could lead anyone to assume that this Imu guy was still alive or something.
get to the bottom of why highest authority dies on his watch
VA would tell him how it happened. Why would he not take their word for it?
Sure Kizaru would have to find out whatever he can. If only to report to Akainu. But where would that realistically lead?
Blaming the pirates that fought with Saturn a few moments ago.
showing himself to those he wants to erase
You are jumping from 1 conclusion to the next.
There is no real reason to erase anyone, so there is also no reason in showing yourself.
Kill him by eating him
You got what you wrote it still does not make much sense.
 
#11
I can see this Theory being true,
But i have another suggestion, i believe every SH have like a Superior Version of them who represents Closest to achieving their Dreams.
Basically their Mihawk, for example Big Mom is Sanji's Mihawk because her Totto Land is Closest Thing to Sanji's All Blue

Meaning i believe there is Someone out there Fighting for Racism more than Jinbe (Shirahoshi), i believe there is Someone who Usopp must Surpass as a Brave Warrior (Elbaf Ruler), Someone who Invented something that Franky's Final Invention must Surpass (Vegapunk), someone who Drew best World Map so far (Unknown) before Nami draws a more Accurate One ... etc

Based on this, i think there is Someone who is closest to Chopper's Dream, meaning He can heal People from anything but not in a Perfect Way (Meaning there are Conditions & Side-Effects) & that's who i believe Imu is (Gorosei are just like his Guard Point, Sprint Point, Brain Point ... etc)

So i think Imu is a Doctor and this is a Dark Science (A DF might be involved but it's not everything)
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#12
Not really.
No one has a clue how the immortality operation really works or what it really does. Grants immortality? Functional or real immortality?
People aging quickly do not tend to explode either.
Its a completely magical process that we have no further explanation on nor do we know the source of it.
We know that shared regeneration between 5 guys is an unlikely ability of each and one of them.
Based on that we can conclude that source of the regeneration is the same - Imu.
They may have never gotten immortality OP and that too is also shared through Imu who once obtained it.
Or if they did, Imu somehow stopped the effect and the actual age kicked in. He was drying up before he exploded.
Why he exploded isn't really relevant to me, it is not like we will see that often or have to figure out why that happens.
Yes, we can agree that some magic is involved in this but I think majority of what happened is just Imu stopping whatever he was sharing with Saturn.
And then what? Who are they going to consult? Who is going to tell them anything useful?
There is no one. You think that if they ask the Gorosei about it they will go "ah shit, you got us..."?
On the off chance they know that Imu was the name of one of the first 20 kings I really do not see how this could lead anyone to assume that this Imu guy was still alive or something.
That's exactly my point, he will go to the only place where he can get answers - the room of power.
I don't think Gorosei would spill it just because they are asked but if Oda wants Kizaru offed, it could be exactly like that...


VA would tell him how it happened. Why would he not take their word for it?
Sure Kizaru would have to find out whatever he can. If only to report to Akainu. But where would that realistically lead?
Blaming the pirates that fought with Saturn a few moments ago.
It is not about taking their word for it or not... It is about investigating how Highest Authority just died on his watch out of the blue...
He is the bodyguard, he was tasked with protecting him and technically, he failed.
Akainu has a future role to play and Kizaru shared the same rank as his until recently so he probably knows Akainu is also clueless about it.

You are jumping from 1 conclusion to the next.
There is no real reason to erase anyone, so there is also no reason in showing yourself.
Yes, I am assuming here, we know that much, lol.
Not really a reason for Imu to erase Kizaru but rather a reason for Oda, to give the fruit to someone else...
Kizaru had his 5 minutes, decent portrayal against an Emperor, shown backstory while fruit show-off limited to bare minimum which leads me to believe it will be shown off by someone else. Same for Whitebeard's Gura, he didn't use a single named attack in MF, so Blackbeard can.

You got what you wrote it still does not make much sense.
Yes, another assumption of mine.
Based on Imu eating Fire Fist and Luffy eating a laser...
 
#13
Imu, through the gorosei, might order Kizaru to kill all Egghead Vice Admirals present
As for Kizaru himself, Imu doesn't have what it takes to kill him, and I don't think they care that Kizaru knows something anyway
 
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