Who did More to capture Garp?


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You do realize this color spread was shown before we got confirmation on Kuzan being the 10th member of Blackbeard's crew.
Doesn't mean shit. What matters here is the truth: Aokiji is part of Blackbeard Pirates and he is still not featured in colorspread.
By portrayal, Shiryu > Aokiji.
By feats, Aokiji > Shiryu but common anime trope, the weaker character goes all out before the stronger one.

You actually think Shiryu can fight Akainu for 10 days straight? Get the fuck out of here.
Unlike against Aokiji, you actuallu think Akainu can survive Shiryu for 10 days?
Shiryu's counterpart almost killed Kaido which is more durable than Akainu in mere minutes.
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It's obvious, Aokiji has better protrayal and feats
What portrayal, genius?
Sure pre TS Aokiji > pre TS Warden Shiryu.

The difference is Shiryu became stronger during timeskip (2 years training like straw hats). And that was still without Suke Suke.
Now he is even more stronger with Suke Suke, and maybe second DF later

While Aokiji grows weaker during timeskip because now he is crippled
 
Are you actually a fucking moron? Seriously? Did you hit your head when you were young?
that's what your parents should be explaining to us

You do realize this color spread was shown before we got confirmation on Kuzan being the 10th member of Blackbeard's crew.
we were told Kuzan was part of the BBP back in Dressrosa this spread came out in Wano

Also you have to be fucking dumb if you think a color spread means anything, Kuzan already has better portrayal than Shiryu.
Oda even doubled down in an SBS and stated that those in the spread might not all be vice captains but they are all those he viewed as second strongest in their organizations

You actually think Shiryu can fight Akainu for 10 days straight? Get the fuck out of here.
It doesn't matter what I think, the fact that Oda said Shiryu is the 2nd strongest is a fact that wont change no matter how much it hurts your feelings!


You, me and everyone else can see the difference in portrayal but it doesn't matter how much we don't like it, Oda outright called Shiryu stronger than every other titanic captain, funny how much you cant accept this that you insult me for it as if I'm Oda and ill change the story just so snowflakes like you can be happy :milaugh:
 


Oda made it into a problem for some with this because by the time this was released, Kuzan was already part of the BBP and its not him but Shiryu who is shown as the 2nd strongest of the crew
why Oda has Shiryu as the 2nd strongest of the crew then?
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Lol this brainless moron is actually using a color spread as proof that Shiryu is stronger than Kuzan.:milaugh:

Ignoring actual feats and portrayal in the manga and going straight to the color spread.

Also based on the spoilers it's Blackbeard praising Kuzan not Shiryu.

So cope more.:suresure:
 
I feel some of y’all forgetting that shanks a pirate pirate raised by Roger. Roger was also in some crazy timing ready not just to beat but utterly destroy anyone that went up against him. Shanks doing the same shit in arguably a “nicer way” since he doesn’t want any problems with you unless you act first

Squard and his crew weren’t the first or last crew roger miraculously destroyed. Man was infamous for fucking people up on his way to the top
 
Teach = Whitebeard
Obvious. Overpowered DF, still monster without DF

Shiryu = Oden
Obvious. Overpowered swordsman, second division captain, Shiryu almost killed Garp in single hit same way Oden almost killed Kaido in single hit

Aokiji = Marco
Obvious. Hax devil fruit. Blue pheasant and blue phoenix. Marco kicked Big Mom ship, Aokiji used ship as training tool
 
spread and then he was asked about said spread in an SBS and doubled down on it, I feel bad for you who cant accept the story.

why does Oda making Shiryu 2nd strongest hurt you so much?
I agree, reality hurts you so much that you have to retort to make and absolute fool out of yourself?

As It was already said, the color spread came before Kuzan was confermed a BBP member.
Then the difference against Garp was night and day, that the spread, the now lol.

I hope you are doing for agenda because this type of nonsense can only come from that.
 
I feel some of y’all forgetting that shanks a pirate pirate raised by Roger. Roger was also in some crazy timing ready not just to beat but utterly destroy anyone that went up against him. Shanks doing the same shit in arguably a “nicer way” since he doesn’t want any problems with you unless you act first

Squard and his crew weren’t the first or last crew roger miraculously destroyed. Man was infamous for fucking people up on his way to the top
It's nothing strange, it's the way of being a pirate. Even Luffy, who considers Shanks like his father, had a plan to defeat him.
 
I agree, reality hurts you so much that you have to retort to make and absolute fool out of yourself?
yeah its hurting soo much because I'm quoting what Oda said and you are debating it with hurt feeling right?

As It was already said, the color spread came before Kuzan was confermed a BBP member.
Kuzan was announced as part of the BBP some 8 years ago, this spread came out almost 2 years ago

Then the difference against Garp was night and day, that the spread, the now lol.
no one is debating who has better feats between the 2, we can all see its Kuzan

I hope you are doing for agenda because this type of nonsense can only come from that.
so I should ignore the spread and SBS because its hurting your feelings? is that it?
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You stan a character that doesn't even exist, and your dumbass thinks maybe this random orange admiral might fight Sanji and will be above Fujitora?

I guess you truly are reading two piece.
you arent any different as you ignore manga facts
 
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Lol this brainless moron is actually using a color spread as proof that Shiryu is stronger than Kuzan.:milaugh:

Ignoring actual feats and portrayal in the manga and going straight to the color spread.

Also based on the spoilers it's Blackbeard praising Kuzan not Shiryu.

So cope more.:suresure:
At least its official color spread and not some colored drawing on a wall :funky:

Aokiji seems so much more important to the story that its pretty difficult to put any other BBP over him, even BB himself. First Admiral shown, his internal conflict shown, been part of the story throughout almost. Culmination of conflict leads to him leaving navy then wanders and then joins BBPs. Then also gets featured on that last double spread. Story of a good guy going rouge/bad and then possible redemption, a whole manga could be written on Aokiji like many other characters of OP.
 
Shanks and his crew actually getting stuff done in regards to getting rid of upstarts and those that disrespect them is nice. Of course, Shanks and co. aren't some super respectable guys, I don't mind them kinda being douches. I just hope Oda explores the non-Shanks members while there's still focus and hype on them. Shanks is Shanks, he'll get attention. I think this was a good chapter for that crew.
 
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