[FNZ] Role Madness Star Wars OT - Game Thread

[Ultra]

I would assume that Melkor gives scum fakes claims that kind of have elements of their actual claims in them though like Ultra and some others do so he could be just scum motivator but then I cant explain why he would refuse to prove his motivator exist, his line of thinking feels more town motivated then otherwise imo.

This is all hinging on the fact that fakes mirror their actual claims though.

I think you're getting into your "scum never do scummy things" territory here Fooj.

 

[Fujishiro]

I think you're getting into your "scum never do scummy things" territory here Fooj.

Kek. Maybe. Do you disagree with the rest of the post though?

 

[Ultra]

Kek. Maybe. Do you disagree with the rest of the post though?

Not so much disagree, I just think your conflating the idea that certain scum would opt to use their role as a bargaining chip, for thinking he's town for dragging out his claim and refusing to do so outright. I get what you're saying though.

 

[SoulKiller]

Im thinking Polar Bear could be genuine, I feel like he’s genuinely frustrated and I mean sure it can come from scum but hes been pretty much chilling and not really engaging Ultra much after their back and forth and it was decided we would lynch him. Felt like hes legit trying to prove a point and wanted to take his claim with him to the grave but since you were one of the few people that town read him he felt like maybe he should try and not gamethrow and claimed to you.

Idk the progression feels alright to me.

As for Ratchet well he did say hes open to lynching Reloaded instead.

He does not mind axing polar here, and said that he does not mind voting reloaded either. Not that he is willing to drop the vote on polar and vote for reloaded instead. Big difference. Like I just think that after the dude claimed, he seemed unbothered and would of lynched either way. Keeping reloaded there is like a secondary wagon. I would think town ratchet would revaluate the dude spot, even if a bit.

 

[Ultra]

You can eat my ass with this

My record on Polar is SOLID. That's undeniable, there's no need to bring up interpersonal stuff here. You can ask Ratchet/Fuji etc.

@SoulKiller Are you going to respond to this?

 

[Fujishiro]

He does not mind axing polar here, and said that he does not mind voting reloaded either. Not that he is willing to drop the vote on polar and vote for reloaded instead. Big difference. Like I just think that after the dude claimed, he seemed unbothered and would of lynched either way. Keeping reloaded there is like a secondary wagon. I would think town ratchet would revaluate the dude spot, even if a bit.

Anyway with his claim I'm okay with lynching, but can compromise with Reloaded too.

He said he can compromise with Reloaded instead of Polar Bear though isnt that what I said ?

 

[Fujishiro]

You can eat my ass with this

My record on Polar is SOLID. That's undeniable, there's no need to bring up interpersonal stuff here. You can ask Ratchet/Fuji etc.

I think you tolerate Polar when hes town and you are and dont just push him like you did here.

 

[Ultra]

I think you tolerate Polar when hes town and you are and dont just push him like you did here.

Not going to lie I really don't like how SK framed that, at all

 

[SoulKiller]

You can eat my ass with this

My record on Polar is SOLID. That's undeniable, there's no need to bring up interpersonal stuff here. You can ask Ratchet/Fuji etc.

That's just how it feels whenever I see you two in a game. Always seem to be on each other throat, am I wrong?

 

[SoulKiller]

@SoulKiller Are you going to respond to this?

Are you gonna respond to the second part of that post? or you pick and choose?

 

[SoulKiller]

He said he can compromise with Reloaded instead of Polar Bear though isnt that what I said ?

Sure, but he is okay lynching still. Keeping a second backup player to vote here does not change that fact. Like I expect him to revaluate the slot here. Even attempt atleast. You see what I am saying?

 

[SoulKiller]

Not going to lie I really don't like how SK framed that, at all

No offense to be taken here Ultra, don't take it to heart. From the few games I seen here, you can't really blame me to be a bit reserved when it comes to your slot interacting with polar/orca duo here.

 

[Ultra]

That's just how it feels whenever I see you two in a game. Always seem to be on each other throat, am I wrong?

But this isn't what you were saying.

You said that I am inherently agenda'd against him. You completely pulled that out of your ass.

 

[Ultra]

No offense to be taken here Ultra, don't take it to heart. From the few games I seen here, you can't really blame me to be a bit reserved when it comes to your slot interacting with polar/orca duo here.

Nah this is a low blow, and now I'm questioning what made you feel the need to bring this up to begin with

 

[Ultra]

My most charitable explanation is that it's becoming increasingly obvious to you Polar is scum and you're butthurt he fooled you so you're coping by dismissing my catch on him as spite or something

 

[SoulKiller]

Nah this is a low blow, and now I'm questioning what made you feel the need to bring this up to begin with

I said how both of you interact with each other, didn't exclusively only included you. Like I am not saying that you are using outside agenda here to push the dude, just that I am reserved when it comes to you and him interacting with each other, just for the history that is there.

My most charitable explanation is that it's becoming increasingly obvious to you Polar is scum and you're butthurt he fooled you so you're coping by dismissing my catch on him as spite or something

Not really, If I am wrong I am wrong truly. If he is lynched then it is what it is, we will see if I am wrong or not. I will trust my guts here and if I am wrong, I will admit that I am wrong. Not butthurt at all, not sure why you view it that way. I have no stakes in this really, I am just looking it from unbiased outside townie perspective lenses.

 

[Ultra]

I said how both of you interact with each other, didn't exclusively only included you. Like I am not saying that you are using outside agenda here to push the dude, just that I am reserved when it comes to you and him interacting with each other, just for the history that is there.




Not really, If I am wrong I am wrong truly. If he is lynched then it is what it is, we will see if I am wrong or not. I will trust my guts here and if I am wrong, I will admit that I am wrong. Not butthurt at all, not sure why you view it that way. I have no stakes in this really, I am just looking it from unbiased outside townie perspective lenses.

Saying "we always bicker and don't like each other" is different from saying "they're agenda'd and I inherently can't trust the read". The former is an observation (and correct). The latter is an inference which is completely baseless. As Fuji said, when Polar is town, I largely put him to the side.

Normally I'd say this is scummy but I doubt you'd go to such lengths to defend Polar if he was your mate, I think it fits the mold of protecting your fragile ego when Me/Ratchet/Fuji casually caught him though

 

[Polar Bear]

I dont disagree and would like him to use the ability @Polar Bear .

 

[Ratchet]

What part of his claim didnt you like?

Do you just not read. Nothing about his claim is clearing so it doesn't move the my decision. That does not mean the claim itself must be scum leaning. It means it doesn't do anything for me.

 

[SoulKiller]

Saying "we always bicker and don't like each other" is different from saying "they're agenda'd and I inherently can't trust the read". The former is an observation (and correct). The latter is an inference which is completely baseless. As Fuji said, when Polar is town, I largely put him to the side.

Normally I'd say this is scummy but I doubt you'd go to such lengths to defend Polar if he was your mate, I think it fits the mold of protecting your fragile ego when Me/Ratchet/Fuji casually caught him though

I am not saying I don't trust your read per say, it's just that I am looking at it from a perspective, you might not be willing to look at because of the history or whatever.

Sure, If you wanna paint it that way to make yourself feel better. This truly has nothing to do with ego here. You can do you. I will give you your credit as well, don't you worry if he flips scum here.

Apologies if this rubbed you the wrong way. I think you percieved it in the wrong manner. Which was not my intention. I elaborated on why I personally don't think he is scum. I might be wrong, possible.

Like from where I am standing, I am playing in the perciption that the dude will flip townie here, and playing accordingly. I stated what I stated with you and asked your opinion on ratchet and not necessairly yours. Because I don't think the reason you will give will be satisfactory for me. Like you will just say he played bad and deserve it and move forward probably.