General & Others Cross Guild will not do anything, that’s the point

Vanlax

Vanlax

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#41
#41
This is what actually might happen.

They won't actively look for strong members like going to Impel Down.

Strong members not on SHP side would just keep on joining them.

Moria probably.

Maybe even Big Mom Pirates and Beast Pirates remnants.

"In New World you either defeat a Yonko for join under their umbrella."

In the end they will become big enough even Mihawk would get moved lol.

Would be funny if Mihawk starts contemplating Buggy has the same ability as what he saw on Luffy at Marineford lmao.
 
ImmaIvanoM

ImmaIvanoM

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#43
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MonochromeYoru said:
So you think CG reaches raftel?
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Yes the moment we got the buggy and shanks promise in the oden flashback that they will both reach laughter tale in their own, it was set up from there

then Oda even repeats that same scene from the flashback in buggy’s speech again to remind us of the promise… Buggy has to reach laugh tale… his gag logic will carry him and the rest of cross guild there
 
MonochromeYoru

MonochromeYoru

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#44
#44
ImmaIvanoM said:
Yes the moment we got the buggy and shanks promise in the oden flashback that they will both reach laughter tale in their own, it was set up from there

then Oda even repeats that same scene from the flashback in buggy’s speech again to remind us of the promise… Buggy has to reach laugh tale… his gag logic will carry him and the rest of cross guild there
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But shanks most likely ain't gonna reach there tho.

And Buggy can reach raftel even after CG is beaten. either hitch a ride with the shp or get kidnapped by bbp
 
ImmaIvanoM

ImmaIvanoM

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Dragon777 said:
Two Admirals and 30 battleship would obliterante every normal Yonkou crew so really don't see the problem.
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Nope. Not even Luffy’s strawhats can lose to that… We have proof that Luffy can 1v2 admiral level characters

And the 30 battle ships means there’s 5-6 vice admirals and we have seen that just the regular mid trio strawhats can beat all that

Notice how I haven’t even brought up Zoro Sanji and Jimbei and yet the entire marine squad is already done.

Anyway outside of power scaling, there’s also motivation. We have seen that Luffy is fine running away from even 1 admiral if he just doesn’t feel like fighting them… similarly, we have seen Mihawk run away from fodder marines if he doesn’t feel like fighting them

The issue with Cross guild’s motivation is of course that they are all frauds. Buggy is a fraud who has demonstrated that he’d run away to let all his men die for him… Mihawk has outright said he would not fight for buggy, and Crocodile is the snakiest of the snakes…

that’s the other problem with Cross guild’s motivation being attacked… All the member would simply abandon the group… Buggy would let his fodder die, Mihawk would bail like he always bails on every fight and so on
 
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odaisalwaysright

odaisalwaysright

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Dragon777 said:
Two Admirals and 30 battleship would obliterate every normal Yonkou crew so really don't see the problem here.
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are you sure ?
sengoku calling evry shishi and every admiral to join and freaking out in a prepared war at his own prepared base + squardo plan vs sickbeard
+ egghead kizaru was a toy to luffy
not convinced all marine = 1 yonko army + allied yet ?
 
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Dragon777

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odaisalwaysright said:
are you sure ?
sengoku calling evry shishi and every admiral to join and freaking out in a prepared war at his own prepared base + squardo plan vs sickbeard
+ egghead kizaru was a toy to luffy
not convinced all marine = 1 yonko army + allied yet ?
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That Is why even with half of the Warlords rebelling or going against the WG, Sengoku and Garp doing nothing and the Admirals barely doing something they still needed Shanks' help to surive.
 
odaisalwaysright

odaisalwaysright

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Dragon777 said:
That Is why even with half of the Warlords rebelling or going against the WG, Sengoku and Garp doing nothing and the Admirals barely doing something they still needed Shanks' help to surive.
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due to wb betrayal leading to him unable to fight an commanders cheapshoted rom behind like joz and marco seastone handcuff. it was not a war, it just like stussy lucci scene, people will never learn and keep getting wrong till the end cuz they based their powerscaling over a cheapshot war where there were no real complete fights.
 
Marimo_420

Marimo_420

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#50
#50
Can agree with your points, but Teach is no where near a mastermind.

He's also very heavily a lucky man (similar to Buggy in this regard only) and an opprtunitust. He has some plans but these plans are never fully fleshed out, his plans aren't exactly elaborate or intricate on any scale. He's not a Doflamingo or Crocodile.
 
ImmaIvanoM

ImmaIvanoM

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#51
#51
Vanlax said:
This is what actually might happen.
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No none of that will happen. Cross guild will seat around until buggy’s gag lands them in laugh tale so that it’s funny that buggy is so lucky
Dragon777 said:
Yes, and no.
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Dragon777 said:
They will get stupidly lucky because DOING SOMETHING they'll be stupidly lucky and get 100 out of 1.

They won't stay still and do nothing: they'll do but simply they'll be incredibly, unbelivably luckily and obtain much more than they should.
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the only thing left regarding reaching laugh tale is the man marked by flames… everyone who is going to actually reach laugh tale has to converge at this point soon… so if there’s going to be a fight involved here, Mihawk already said he won’t fight and buggy also already said they don’t need to fight

So at the end of the day It will be Luffy who does all the actual work regarding the man marked by flames and actually gets into fights, and at best Buggy and crew will simply get lucky and get the information afterwards

is this what you’re imagining?
MonochromeYoru said:
But shanks most likely ain't gonna reach there tho.
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MonochromeYoru said:
And Buggy can reach raftel even after CG is beaten. either hitch a ride with the shp or get kidnapped by bbp
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We’ll see. So far it’s buggy who cares very much about reaching Laugh tale, Shanks himself says he wants to find one piece but we know there’s some other agenda going on with him… So until we see what Shanks’ agenda actually agenda is, we won’t know

Also there’s the problem regarding Shanks and Mihawk losing at around the same time… If Teach or Luffy beat Shanks in the same arc as Zoro beats Mihawk, then that means Zoro is as strong as Teach or Luffy… and that can’t happen… You know, since Mihawk and Shanks are relative, their defeats happening at the same time makes this the same feat basically

the massive gap between Zoro and Luffy cannot change so these two cannot have a similar feat in the same arc
 
ZenZu

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
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#52
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ImmaIvanoM said:
No, because they aren’t actually a threat… If two admirals and a 30 battleships arrive on the cg island RIGHT NOW they will get obliterated… Because they aren’t actually a Yonko crew… they are a sham that the government is propping up out of ignorance and buggy gag logic… The government legitimately thinks Buggy's a goddamn top tier

There is no other Yonko crew that can be defeated by such weak forces… Hence why cg is not actually a threat

They are a gag organization that exists to ship unworthy characters to the final island
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Yonkou aren't any more of an actual threat either to the Marines or WG. Any Yonkou crew gets erased off the map overnight by 2 Admirals moving out, other than the current BB pirates because they have Teach and a former Admiral there. This isn't good reasoning at all. They have always been controlled opposition.
 
ZenZu

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
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ImmaIvanoM said:
It the strawhats… We have on panel proof that Luffy can fight two admiral level people at the same time
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Ignoring what you just said for a moment cause it's beyond dumb to even entertain, did you not see how Garp treated the BBP, now just imagine Kuzan wasn't there. That's what a character who loses to an Admiral does to a Yonkou crew by themself. Give him 30 warships and it would be a slaughter without Kuzan factored in.
 
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JoNdule

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ZenZu said:
Ignoring what you just said for a moment cause it's beyond dumb to even entertain, did you not see how Garp treated the BBP, now just imagine Kuzan wasn't there. That's what a character who loses to an Admiral does to a Yonkou crew by themself. Give him 30 warships and it would be a slaughter without Kuzan factored in.
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Cope more
Garp didn't even fight all BBP and he also had help

We've seen Yonko fight 3 Admirals back-to-back, a Yonko dominated an admiral and a gorosei at once

We've not seen a admiral defeat a Yonko crew or even dominate.
GB managed beating only 2 commanders + some fodder members
 
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