Chapter Discussion Is Oda cooked or is Elbaf's server broken?

[Bisoromi Bear]

Of course it's a possibility, Oda is human and anything can happen. So a big serie of error could've lead toward those mistakes. It's not specifically Oda, it's every author's possibilities.

Now.. the real deal comes if it's intentionnal. And in this case, it's a highly bold move. And this is just a masterclass. This is not even a debate. In term of storytelling, it doesn't get better.

But how many pillars are behind it?

 

[Logiko]

But how many pillars are behind it?

Who knows ...

 

[Jailer]

So Oda makes over 20 (!) mistakes in a single chapter - some of them ridiculously obvious - and his editors don't notice a single one of them during their proofread?

Sorry, you're free to believe whatever you want of course, but imho it's crystal clear that this was done on purpose.

Yeah not buying it.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Who knows ...

Glue some together from the rubble left after the conejo didn't return

 

[Logiko]

Glue some together from the rubble left after the conejo didn't return

Mate... do not think that the Conejo is over... the fact that Luffy is speaking about "grilled Rabbit" here is actually a good thing for a Carrot return theory

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Mate... do not think that the Conejo is over... the fact that Luffy is speaking about "grilled Rabbit" here is actually a good thing for a Carrot return theory

Yes and Lucci is in the barrel

 

[Logiko]

Yes and Lucci is in the barrel

Lucci is Over

 

[tomasturbado]

Its all part of a masterplan, oda is a genius and its clearly intended.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

The only visual mistake that makes me believe it could be a hallucination is Luffy's weapon changing from sword to axe in the SAME page. "Forgetting" to draw the weapon is one thing, but going sword from to axe within 2-3 panels is a bit too much
Not only it is extremely sloppy but what the fuck are his assistants and editors even doing?

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Its all part of a masterplan, oda is a genius and its clearly intended.

What's so genius about making a plot like this? At best it is good trolling.

 

[kekaro]

Actually it does. That's the job of the editors. They are not just here to supervise the overall story, they are here also for quality check. And were are talking about a BIG slip up here, not just the common mistake that we usually see.



Again, they will happen pretty much each chapter. What is not normal is how many there are here.



The error is not just the sword, the error comes from the fact of making the sword appear AND disappear multiple time, the band appear and disappear MULTIPLE times, the switching shapes of the designs, the clear change of OBJECTS between panel of the SAME page, the error of moves, the thematic of the illusion, the repetition of a combo panel.

We call that a pattern. It's not a simple case of a few errors, it's multiple occurences that should not even be possible unless there was a problem during the creation of the chapter OR by design.



Really, no. You should be amazed by the number of error here. This NEVER happened on this scale. (at least not in my knowledge)



Also fun fact: it's all about errors on the characters and not the environement.


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Again, In term of continuity, it's not just three errors, it's AT LEAST 20.

You are just waffling again

We saw the SHs and giants on the sunny, who all drunk that alcohol, and they were 0 odd things


The giants were reacting to things Luffy Sanji And Zoro stated, that they wasted bees and the fat ass rabit. Are they hallucinating too?

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Oda removed Nami's sword from her back because it was in the way of her ass showing.

 

[Rootbeer]

And people like @Rootbeer and the Zoro stans study haki depictions on panels like these.

You're comparing drawing and writting mistakes with story planning such as powers and power systems, cause yes abilities are part of the narrative as much as the overall manga.. They were put as much thoughts into them as everything else that encompasses what makes this story what it is..

 

[dirtyLarry]

The only visual mistake that makes me believe it could be a hallucination is Luffy's weapon changing from sword to axe in the SAME page. "Forgetting" to draw the weapon is one thing, but going sword from to axe within 2-3 panels is a bit too much
Not only it is extremely sloppy but what the fuck are his assistants and editors even doing?

Nami suddenly wearing a completely different girdle also happened in the span of two pages.

Same thing with Nami's scaling comparing to the railing completely changing within two pages.

There is something off here.

You are just waffling again

We saw the SHs and giants on the sunny, who all drunk that alcohol, and they were 0 odd things


The giants were reacting to things Luffy Sanji And Zoro stated, that they wasted bees and the fat ass rabit. Are they hallucinating too?

Funny thing is that those "giants" are actually fake.

Pretty obvious if you look at them (and especially their scaling compared to te bees) a bit closer.

They are regular sized humans.

Logiko certainly has a point this time, it's undeniable that there is something massively off this chapter.

Either Oda was stoned as fuck writing it or he did those countless "errors" (already 20+ egregious ones detected) on purpose.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

You're comparing drawing and writting mistakes with story planning such as powers and power systems, cause yes abilities are part of the narrative as much as the overall manga.. They were put as much thoughts into them as everything else that encompasses what makes this story what it is..

You overanalyze inconsistent drawings.

 

[Rootbeer]

You overanalyze inconsistent drawings.

You're exaggerating things to make a point, when you in fact don't have one.. Boo hoo, Nami's blade.. Who cares..

And..
Inconsistent drawing =/= Inconsistent Story telling

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

You're exaggerating things to make a point, when you in fact don't have one.. Boo hoo, Nami's blade.. Who cares..

And..
Inconsistent drawing =/= Inconsistent Story telling

Yeah I said you overanalyze inconsistent drawings.

 

[Rootbeer]

Yeah I said you overanalyze inconsistent drawings.

Repeating yourself doesn't make it right..

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

That's the ONLY thing that seems weird to me. This was a pretty big fall yet no trace of Nami being wounded.

But the events happening are real, this is not a Nami's dream. We literally have people outside the castle completely unrelated reacting and discussing current events (like the Ear God getting defeated).
What is possible though is that they are all collectively and partially hallucinating some stuff (while being awake).
Imagine if they all hallucinated Chopper as a monster cat and they just beat him up.

i think they're in a pocket dimension or something and this is why the people in the lego village are so scared of any little thing happening to the tree like the tree is keeping their life up. maybe they're already in asgard and loki is playing with them

 

[tomasturbado]

You're exaggerating things to make a point, when you in fact don't have one.. Boo hoo, Nami's blade.. Who cares..

And..
Inconsistent drawing =/= Inconsistent Story telling

Until Oda re contextualizes it to be a plot point, like sanji being a ciborg and now we call it foreshadowing