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Why would I assume it's more likely they did this while killing him. All he claimed was Double Voter. Would be a waste of resources
As opposed to what? He didn't shoot? His kill vanished into the aether? I mean something must have happened to it.
 
There's no reason for mafia to look at a double voter claim and think, while offing them "gee I better also make sure he doesn't try anything".
 

Ratchet

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Yeah he probably shot you or charles and it failed
Bit of an assumption, no? If Ekko is on point we wouldn't want to let him get anything off, we wouldn't know he was a Vig. Now maybe we just assume he doesn't have anything more, but then I would also point out that the Ekko read you're pulling up is pretty old and he worked with me with my neighbour fake claim with him. So good reason to suggest he might not have scum read me all that much afterwards. Certainly not enough to shoot me.

You're looking pretty greasy tbh.
 

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You sub in, arbitrarily decide that one of these two must have been shot by Ekko, irregardless of when the read came or how his reads may have been impacted by the town flip from AM, and then used that to create a dichotomy. Oh, not to mention no selling a cop claim lmao.

You can claim btw @Ultra we are mass claiming today.
 
Bit of an assumption, no? If Ekko is on point we wouldn't want to let him get anything off, we wouldn't know he was a Vig. Now maybe we just assume he doesn't have anything more, but then I would also point out that the Ekko read you're pulling up is pretty old and he worked with me with my neighbour fake claim with him. So good reason to suggest he might not have scum read me all that much afterwards. Certainly not enough to shoot me.

You're looking pretty greasy tbh.
"We wouldn't know he was a vig"

You forgot to add the part "If I was scum", Ratchet-kun

:goyea:

Anyway it's a pretty silly assumption that mafia would blindly spend a utility like that on someone they're killing. Only think I can think of is if that were to stop any passive protects. Not even sure how that role functions
 

Ratchet

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"We wouldn't know he was a vig"

You forgot to add the part "If I was scum", Ratchet-kun

:goyea:

Anyway it's a pretty silly assumption that mafia would blindly spend a utility like that on someone they're killing. Only think I can think of is if that were to stop any passive protects. Not even sure how that role functions
It explains exactly how it functions.

Full claim please.
 
You sub in, arbitrarily decide that one of these two must have been shot by Ekko, irregardless of when the read came or how his reads may have been impacted by the town flip from AM, and then used that to create a dichotomy. Oh, not to mention no selling a cop claim lmao.

You can claim btw @Ultra we are mass claiming today.
I didn't arbitrarily decide.

I see that piece of information in conjunction with you lynching straight town and draw the obvious conclusion.

Not gonna put stock into the cop claim until we have more on the table tbh
 

Ratchet

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RA has done nothing all game and your first action is to force a dichotomy based on unveritable info in what is very possibly LyLo.
 

Ratchet

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I didn't arbitrarily decide.

I see that piece of information in conjunction with you lynching straight town and draw the obvious conclusion.

Not gonna put stock into the cop claim until we have more on the table tbh
How are you honestly blaming me squarely for the Reloaded lynch lol? Like I understand the rest of the players, but if you saw how it transpired you should be able to following that reasoning wholesale. The fact you haven't been able to means you're either scum pretending or you've forgotten how to play town. I'll let you decide.

Yoho again I will point out was someone I wasn't sold on - Charlie actually suggested he had mech to work against it (which is actually fairly townie for him tbh) and then claimed it which led to Yoho going over. AM was before those two and you know what AM is like.

So I can actually see Charlie being town from this and you subbing into scum and trying to take control of the lynch. Full claim, stop stalling.
 

Ratchet

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@Ratchet you ever explain why you were scum reading Indigo?
Yes I did, it's in my ISO. He was reluctant to claim on request when previously he hasn't ever shown that as town, he read me town when usually he elects to just not read me, and then flipped his read simply because I asked him to claim. Him pushing for a CFD on me without seeking a claim also looked bad too.
 
How are you honestly blaming me squarely for the Reloaded lynch lol? Like I understand the rest of the players, but if you saw how it transpired you should be able to following that reasoning wholesale. The fact you haven't been able to means you're either scum pretending or you've forgotten how to play town. I'll let you decide.

Yoho again I will point out was someone I wasn't sold on - Charlie actually suggested he had mech to work against it (which is actually fairly townie for him tbh) and then claimed it which led to Yoho going over. AM was before those two and you know what AM is like.

So I can actually see Charlie being town from this and you subbing into scum and trying to take control of the lynch. Full claim, stop stalling.
You literally insisted Reloaded had botched his claim though?
 

Ratchet

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Trying to stop you from sweeping fr
Luka is already dead so there is no sweep. Try again, this time try and argue something that makes sense.

Btw if it's not you then it's going to be people on the sideline. You're actively obstructing that solve now so I suggest you get on with it.
 

Ratchet

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You literally insisted Reloaded had botched his claim though?
I argued he plausibly had botched it by claiming it because AM's role was a roleblocker that didn't explicitly say roleblocker. I was not expecting duplicate roles and I don't know why you would think I would. Again I have issues with the setup on this basis.
 
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