Controversial RELIGIONS & SPIRITUALITIES : Conversations
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Science not giving you philosiphical answers, spirituality or morality, all doesnt diminish its veracity on the natural world and natural processes.
Exactly, so it changing with new information and better understanding is good and is what makes it a good method
You are right about realities that cant be experimented on. Doesnt mean people should be expected to believe in extraordinary god claims.
The same applies to moral views based in religion, due to different covenants and abrogation.
The impossibility of having any evidence either way doesnt mean accepting gods existence isnt baseless as well.
And even if there is such an intuition in humans, views about god vary alot in different cultures. This and the philosophical arguments then at best show the existence of some supernatural entity that started the universe that we cant really know anything about. Compared to that, specific god claims of the various religions are a stretch.
Also mind you that i still dont deny the existence of any supernatural entity or supernaturality. Im still not a materialist, nor do i subsribe to hard/strong atheism.
Fml then
Exactly, so it changing with new information and better understanding is good and is what makes it a good method
You are right about realities that cant be experimented on. Doesnt mean people should be expected to believe in extraordinary god claims.
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The same applies to moral views based in religion, due to different covenants and abrogation.
The impossibility of having any evidence either way doesnt mean accepting gods existence isnt baseless as well.
And even if there is such an intuition in humans, views about god vary alot in different cultures. This and the philosophical arguments then at best show the existence of some supernatural entity that started the universe that we cant really know anything about. Compared to that, specific god claims of the various religions are a stretch.
Also mind you that i still dont deny the existence of any supernatural entity or supernaturality. Im still not a materialist, nor do i subsribe to hard/strong atheism.
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Yeah.. for people to discuss the subject. But I know that I can keep myself from intervening on this subject lol
i'll try to tone down myself.
Our body are real (well, unless we are in a simulation, in which case we can make the case that the simulation is real and therefore our "sence of self" is real as well)
For the mind, it depends on how you define it. If you are talking about our imagination for example, it's indeed an illusion, a form of projection of what is really happening inside our brain.
i'll try to tone down myself.
Our body are real (well, unless we are in a simulation, in which case we can make the case that the simulation is real and therefore our "sence of self" is real as well)
For the mind, it depends on how you define it. If you are talking about our imagination for example, it's indeed an illusion, a form of projection of what is really happening inside our brain.
Genocide is not a 'natural disaster'
Goodness gracious what is this post. Threatening people is not giving them freedom of choice. This is conqueror logic
-"This is fascism, I should be free to bang my head against the wall without getting hurt."
Imagination is made of very real electrical signals. The brain's interpretation of painful stimuli is also electrical signals. In both cases they are very real, it happening inside your brain doesn't mean that it isn't real.
Yup. It's made by electrical signals. But the feeling of having an imagination is an illusion the same way consciouness is.
Yes. That's what I'm explaining.
The physical interaction are real.
The interpretation of those signal for us as entity is not.
I made this metaphore a few week back:
Your mind is a movie theatre:
> The electricity is your energy and electric signals
> The projector is your brain
> The brand of the projector is the structure of your brain
> The movie is the combinaison of all the previous things before transforming into a consciousness. It's a combinasion in constant evolution
> The projection of the movie on the blank screen is your actual consciousness : your mind, thoughts, consciense, imagination
> The spectator sitted on the red seats is your will and sence of self, the illusion of consciousness.
What is not real is our agency. What is real on the other hand our experience and illusion of said agency.
Yes. That's what I'm explaining.
The physical interaction are real.
The interpretation of those signal for us as entity is not.
I made this metaphore a few week back:
Your mind is a movie theatre:
> The electricity is your energy and electric signals
> The projector is your brain
> The brand of the projector is the structure of your brain
> The movie is the combinaison of all the previous things before transforming into a consciousness. It's a combinasion in constant evolution
> The projection of the movie on the blank screen is your actual consciousness : your mind, thoughts, consciense, imagination
> The spectator sitted on the red seats is your will and sence of self, the illusion of consciousness.
What is not real is our agency. What is real on the other hand our experience and illusion of said agency.
The god from the bible is incredibly morally inconsistent.
Goodness by our own standards is based on "don't do onto others what you wouldn't like to be done to you" which I think connects directly to camaraderie and empathy.
We find ourselves in a pickle when we debate the morality of a potential God. Since if he is all good he can't be all powerful and vice-versa. Same thing if he was evil, since we have both good and evil in this world.
Goodness by our own standards is based on "don't do onto others what you wouldn't like to be done to you" which I think connects directly to camaraderie and empathy.
We find ourselves in a pickle when we debate the morality of a potential God. Since if he is all good he can't be all powerful and vice-versa. Same thing if he was evil, since we have both good and evil in this world.
Do you guys think Enel will be back ?
To be honest the Christian God is a jester. Remember the time he told the old men to cut the throat of his baby ? And then stopped him and said it was a joke ? He shouldn't be taken seriously. After all, bible in reverse means "A great ass-joke" in ancient sumerian.
Anyway, obviously god is testing us
To be honest the Christian God is a jester. Remember the time he told the old men to cut the throat of his baby ? And then stopped him and said it was a joke ? He shouldn't be taken seriously. After all, bible in reverse means "A great ass-joke" in ancient sumerian.
Anyway, obviously god is testing us
