General & Others Shiryu and Lafitte

[JoNdule]

The first time we saw Marco and Jozu, both were introduced at the same time in the same panel !
Tjos is after we saw Ace (their youngest Commander)

These 2 are also WB original strongest commanders excluding. His wings who are near equals.

The first time we see King and Queen, just like Marco and Jozu, both were paired together in the same panel MOCKING their youngest and weakest commander that we saw already : Jack, who got defeated in Zou.

These 2 ended up fighting Sanji and Zoro

The first time we see Shiryu and Lafitte in NW, both are paired just like the last two duos above,
They were also mocking and laughing at their youngest commander : Burgess, who just got beaten by Sabo !

These 2 are also given special missions or portrayal among beast pirates excluding Kuzan

They will fight Zoro and Sanji !
Anyone saying Pizarro is a troll
If Oda wanted Pizzaro to be that guy, he will be given special missions like Burgees and Lafitte get or he will be hyped as Shiryu was pre ts.
The dude is their 4th strongest commander. He's weaker than Burgess.


@RayanOO @Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk

 

[Cruxroux]

Why Sanji always has to fight the clown counterpart lmao

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

I think Shiryu and Lafitte's side-by-side panel was referencing Zoro and Nami.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Sanji is fighting pizarro. Deal with it.

 

[Julius]

I think Shiryu and Lafitte's side-by-side panel was referencing Zoro and Nami.

Might be, but idk, the way both of them were talking about Burgess really fits what we saw with King and Queen

 

[NexusLord]

Pizarro is weird in the sense of people fighting him tbh

He controls a whole island

The most likely scenarios for that are

1) Zoro slices him like Pica
2) Brook uses his soul to find his real body and knock him out
3) Coby does a rematch

 

[Rivaille]

I guess there is a lot of troll in the Sanji fanbase because a lot of them want Sanji to fight Pizarro

OT: I find it funny how it is easy to find Zoro future opppnent.

 

[Vanlax]

Luffy vs BB

Zoro vs Shiryu
Sanji vs Laffite
Jimbo vs Burgess

Robin vs Devon
Franky vs San Juan Wolf
Brook vs Doc Q

Monster Chopper vs Island Pizarro
Nami vs Vasco Shot
Usopp vs Augur

Law/Yamato vs Kuzan for Stall Piece.. or maybe Sword with Koby leading

 

[Rumble]

idk why people think Pizarro and Sanji even make sense as a match up. How would Oda even draw it in a compelling way? I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's an awkward match up to begin with.

Law, Luffy, Coby, Zoro, Franky - I can think of a bunch of characters that make more sense stylistically and aesthetically on panel. Even Chopper would be a better fit in Monster Point.

imo it's more likely Pizarro is 1HKO'd by Luffy in his giant form to make a statement when they arrive to fight than Sanji being his designated match up.

Laffitte, Burgess and Shiryuu all make more sense.

 

[PuckTheGreat]

I guess there is a lot of troll in the Sanji fanbase because a lot of them want Sanji to fight Pizarro

OT: I find it funny how it is easy to find Zoro future opppnent.

With all due respek to the mandem no thank you 🙏🏿. Can see the angle there, but the logic isn’t logic~ing for me
Pizzaro is not that guy and it is bloody obvious from the way Oda’s portrayed him so far. Imo he’s gonna be a mid-trio level opponent. Can see what Jo’s going for here & it is indeed reminiscent of King/Queen/Jack but that is only a bonus argument for Sanji v Laffite.
If you wanna know Sanji’s opponent, look at their portrayal. Laffite has the best portrayal amongst the original 5 and is the Staff Officer of the BB Pirates.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Lafitte is so much better for lanji bros than actual clown characters like Pizzaro or Vasco lol

We gonna see some insane Laffite wank soon. Would be hilarious if lanji ended up not fighting him

 

[nik87]

No.
Sanji will fight Kuzan.

 

[kumae]

The first time we saw Marco and Jozu, both were introduced at the same time in the same panel !
Tjos is after we saw Ace (their youngest Commander)

These 2 are also WB original strongest commanders excluding. His wings who are near equals.

The first time we see King and Queen, just like Marco and Jozu, both were paired together in the same panel MOCKING their youngest and weakest commander that we saw already : Jack, who got defeated in Zou.

These 2 ended up fighting Sanji and Zoro

The first time we see Shiryu and Lafitte in NW, both are paired just like the last two duos above,
They were also mocking and laughing at their youngest commander : Burgess, who just got beaten by Sabo !

These 2 are also given special missions or portrayal among beast pirates excluding Kuzan

They will fight Zoro and Sanji !
Anyone saying Pizarro is a troll
If Oda wanted Pizzaro to be that guy, her be given special missions like Burgees and Lafitte get or he will be hyped as Shiryu was pre ts.
The dude is their 4th strongest commander. He's weaker than Burgess.


@RayanOO @Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk

Nope
This is all wrong
The bird is laffite like King marco the heavy dude is burguess like Queen jozu aka Teach RH and LH + both laffite and burguess have the lowest bountys
Laffite was shown first with other crewmembers just like Shiryu was shown with Devon and pizarro in hachinosu
-Shiryu and laffite didn't scold burguess + they seem to have a cool relation
-Shiryu scold pizarro in hachinosu
-Pizarro is an ex royalty from the north blue
-was shown with Shiryu showing his powers
-similar King Queen gimmick
-Garp fighting both was like Marco fighting K&Q
-invisible fruit goes to old lanji opponent pica fruit goes to old zoro opponent
-There's 0 connection between cook and laffite

 

[milluki]

Pizarro is not the 4th strongest, he is the weakest Titanic Captain, future opponent of Chopper

 

[zenox]

Reread impel down if u think shiryu and lafitte are anywhere close

shiryu is closer to soloing Blackbeard subordinates than be equal to Lafitte

 

[Dragon777]

To me, Pizarro Is clearly the 4° strongest of the crew, so he will fight Sanji.

 

[JoNdule]

To me, Pizarro Is clearly the 4° strongest of the crew, so he will fight Sanji.

I'm not surprised
I won't bother

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idk why people think Pizarro and Sanji even make sense as a match up. How would Oda even draw it in a compelling way? I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's an awkward match up to begin with.

Law, Luffy, Coby, Zoro, Franky - I can think of a bunch of characters that make more sense stylistically and aesthetically on panel. Even Chopper would be a better fit in Monster Point.

imo it's more likely Pizarro is 1HKO'd by Luffy in his giant form to make a statement when they arrive to fight than Sanji being his designated match up.

Laffitte, Burgess and Shiryuu all make more sense.

They read two pieces

They think Pizzaro is above Burgess and Lafitte cause "he has island df"

Oda hasn't bothered giving Pziarro any special portrayal

Burgess was given a special mission to get Mera mera and eat it.
Lafitte goes on special missions, look at where he's at now. He is also the chief of Staff
Pizarro doesn't lead the crew ! He can't when Lafitte and Burgess are round.
He doesn't even lead when shiryu is around

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I think Shiryu and Lafitte's side-by-side panel was referencing Zoro and Nami.

No it wasn't

Oda repeated this with King, queen and Jack case for a reason

There's no Nami-Zoro whatever there.

Nami has never fought a VC/RH /Chief of Staff of any crew

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With all due respek to the mandem no thank you 🙏🏿. Can see the angle there, but the logic isn’t logic~ing for me
Pizzaro is not that guy and it is bloody obvious from the way Oda’s portrayed him so far. Imo he’s gonna be a mid-trio level opponent. Can see what Jo’s going for here & it is indeed reminiscent of King/Queen/Jack but that is only a bonus argument for Sanji v Laffite.
If you wanna know Sanji’s opponent, look at their portrayal. Laffite has the best portrayal amongst the original 5 and is the Staff Officer of the BB Pirates.

Queen --> In charge of Udon and Weaponary, leads beast pirates even when King is around
Lafitte --> Chief of Staff and he leads everyone else not named Teach. He's in charge of lots of kissions
Absalom --> Moriah's Right hand, leads the crew
...

Sanji and Zoro have always fought people who lead their crews or are in charge of important missions

 

[Dragon777]

I'm not surprised
I won't bother

It's fine to have different views. It's not like I am saying you are deluding yourself or you are simply wrong thinking that Lafitte might be the one.

I just don't think so and the reasons why I don't think so are in the other thread.

 

[JoNdule]

It's fine to have different views. It's not like I am saying you are deluding yourself or you are simply wrong thinking that Lafitte might be the one.

I just don't think so and the reasons why I don't think so are in the other thread.

Seeing how you rate characters or so,
I don't wanna bother

Pizarro is somebody Teach doesn't respect as much as he respects Shiryu, Lafitte or even Burgess.
He doesn't even trust him to go on solo missions like he let Burgess and Lafitte

That's not Sanji's future opponent
Absalom, Mr. 2, Queen,...are all written different from Pizzaro, they all sit at the top. They lead their crews

He's not at the top of Hierachy. He doesn't have authority over Shiru, LAfitte and Burgess , not even the same authority

 

[Dragon777]

Seeing how you rate characters or so,
I don't wanna bother

Not gonna argue against that: It's fine.

Pizarro is somebody Teach doesn't respect as much as he respects Shiryu, Lafitte or even Burgess.
He doesn't even trust him to go on solo missions like he let Burgess and Lafitte

Lafitte is one of the minds of the BBP, like Robin or Nami. Sure, Teach values him, but that doesn't mean he is one of the strongest (necessarily).

That's not Sanji's future opponent
Absalom, Mr. 2, Queen,...are all written different from Pizzaro, they all sit at the top. They lead their crews

Pizarro was by far the most important BBP and Hachinsou aisde from Kuzan.

He's not at the top of Hierachy. He doesn't have authority over Shiru, LAfitte and Burgess , not even the same authority

There are more "hierachical" crews than others, but Pizarro was the one shouting what they could do and not do.

But anyway, It's a matter of tastes and ideas here.