Chapter Discussion Tower of God Season 3 - Chapter 226

[Welkin]

Dunno who told SIU that long panels were the move

Hard to tell what’s happening half the time when single attacks are like 20 miles long

Decent chapter but kinda annoyed that it seemed like Urek was gonna do something this chapter but just sat there and watched till the literal end

The fight will probably conclude here but I’m hoping someone actually goes down at some point. All of this just for neither of them to face any consequences is kinda… eh

Also not sure if I’m a fan of the implied gap between Family Heads

We always knew some were stronger and some were weaker but based on this chapter it seems like if Blossom and Traumerei were to fight it would not be close at all

Blossom would probably do Gustang filthy in a 1v1 too

Guess it might not be a reach to say Urek or Zahard could potentially 1v2 certain weaker combinations of Family Heads

Just hoping SIU doesn’t make the gaps between them even wider than they appear to be

 

[LogicoftheVI]

The fight will probably conclude here but I’m hoping someone actually goes down at some point. All of this just for neither of them to face any consequences is kinda… eh

I feel you on this. I hope that there are consequences and a real outcome for the battle between them. Luslec is still around so there is potential for the battle to not truly be finished and someone ends up going down. Personally, I am hoping that it is Traum and that Zahard's army takes a much-needed "L" here.

 

[Welkin]

I feel you on this. I hope that there are consequences and a real outcome for the battle between them. Luslec is still around so there is potential for the battle to not truly be finished and someone ends up going down. Personally, I am hoping that it is Traum and that Zahard's army takes a much-needed "L" here.

Yeah the status quo has been maintained for far too long

A Family Head dying here would definitely shake things up

Most people in the known Tower have lived their entire lives viewing the Family Heads as deities that deserve to be worshipped

There are so many directions the story could go in if they die

For all of the buildup to essentially go nowhere... I'd be pretty tight about it

 

[MonsterKaido]

Hmm. So this feels like the conclusion of the fight between two FHs.

Traumerei impressed me a lot but Gustang was mid imo. Would have lost if it wasn't for blossom's flames. Man is probably among the weaker FHs. Weird because I always had Gustang above Traumerei.

As for the fight , yeah Traumerei would have been defeated it seems.So it is a matchup advantage to some extent but still Blossom is a legit monster lol. Easily a level above both Gustang and Traumerei. She may even mid diff them.

I didn't like that urek interrupted that fight. Traumerei should have died. I hope he dies by the end of this arc.

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I wonder whether enne inherited blossom's flames.

 

[Shadowlord123]

I do not agree with this, the Okbi is not "V's" power or weapon. It was made by the workshop and gifted to Gustang, it is very much a weapon for him and his use. Calling it anything else would be like saying that Yuri using the Black March is not part of her ability. Or like saying the Sword Arie Han uses is not part of their ability. The Okbi is Gustangs weapon and he has had it for thousands of years.

Okay, fair enough with the Okbi.

My disappointment stems more from the fact that none of Gustang's OG abilities have been genuinely threatening to Traumerei in this fight. They've been a bit annoying at best (Unos) or outright useless at worst (Prometheus and the Seraphims).

The only way Gustang has been able to threaten him so far is by using V's gift and Blossom's flame, both assets given to him by his other companions. And even then, not even the situational Okbi has actually done much compared to the initial hype it got.

I never expected Gustang to be on the stronger side of the FHs. His old blogpost depicted him as a support Wave Controller, and Blossom was said to be stronger to the point of making him jealous of her talents.

It's just... I don't know. Imagination as a power is extremely busted, with a near endless amount of possibilities. I don't like how underwhelming it's been made to be so far. I simply expected his own OG power to do more, that's it.

Maybe it changes later on, but not putting much faith into it right now. Nothing would make me happier though.

 

[Cadis Etrama Di Urek]

Insane scenes discovered this chapter when you deep it ngl.


Blossom can potentially and casually one shot both Gustang and Traumerei along with Luslec together and yet she's still far below Arie Hon, Edhuan and most especially Urek in power.


People who were genuinely tweaking that Luslec was comparable to a family head in power are mad funny, it's like comparing a random small rock to the freaking sun.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Imo

Level 1 - Zahard , V

Level 2 - Arie hon , Eduan , Yurin , Arlen

Level 3 - Blossom

Level 4 - Traumerei, Gustang

The gap between zahard and others maybe massive. I can see zahard beating 3 gustang's easily.

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[Shadowlord123]

Imo

Level 1 - Zahard , V

Level 2 - Arie hon , Eduan , Yurin , Arlen

Level 3 - Blossom

Level 4 - Traumerei, Gustang

The gap between zahard and others maybe massive. I can see zahard beating 3 gustang's easily.

Arlene was implied to have tried to stop Gustang in a similar way to current Baam, and she failed miserably/lost.

Granted, we don't know the specifics, but it certainly doesn't suggest she's past level 4.

Insane scenes discovered this chapter when you deep it ngl.


Blossom can potentially and casually one shot both Gustang and Traumerei along with Luslec together and yet she's still far below Arie Hon, Edhuan and most especially Urek in power.


People who were genuinely tweaking that Luslec was comparable to a family head in power are mad funny, it's like comparing a random small rock to the freaking sun.

I'm still trying to cope that the gaps aren't that big.

Blossom's flame is just a bad match-up for Traumerei's Disconnection. Traum also needs to absorb Levi, so he might be getting much stronger by the time he does that.

Gustang (I hope to God), might be capable of absorbing the power and abilities of his Head Librarians and fight on a well higher level if he goes all-out with everything. Traumerei's Disconnect also kinda counters his imagination powers a lot.

The chapter does suggest Blossom low diffs them though. Even with my cope, I can't argue for more than mid diff.

Rough week for my agendas man

 

[Cadis Etrama Di Urek]

I'm still trying to cope that the gaps aren't that big.

Blossom's flame is just a bad match-up for Traumerei's Disconnection. Traum also needs to absorb Levi, so he might be getting much stronger by the time he does that.

Gustang (I hope to God), might be capable of absorbing the power and abilities of his Head Librarians and fight on a well higher level if he goes all-out with everything. Traumerei's Disconnect also kinda counters his imagination powers a lot.

The chapter does suggest Blossom low diffs them though. Even with my cope, I can't argue for more than mid diff.

Rough week for my agendas man

Ngl yeah I understand, agendas of mine were both incredibly shattered this chapter while also incomparably rising through the roof in stocks.

Never been more conflicted in my life.


I swear SIU is a madman with making this kind of power chasm, even for me it's too much.




Right now I pray dearly that both Gustang and Traum can at least reach five percent of her when they recover every last bit of power they spread out.


This is how low my agendas have fallen, I'm in hell.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Arlene was implied to have tried to stop Gustang in a similar way to current Baam, and she failed miserably/lost.

Granted, we don't know the specifics, but it certainly doesn't suggest she's past level 4.



I'm still trying to cope that the gaps aren't that big.

Blossom's flame is just a bad match-up for Traumerei's Disconnection. Traum also needs to absorb Levi, so he might be getting much stronger by the time he does that.

Gustang (I hope to God), might be capable of absorbing the power and abilities of his Head Librarians and fight on a well higher level if he goes all-out with everything. Traumerei's Disconnect also kinda counters his imagination powers a lot.

The chapter does suggest Blossom low diffs them though. Even with my cope, I can't argue for more than mid diff.

Rough week for my agendas man

Hmm. Does Gustang say he personally beat her or his side beat her? Which chapter was it again?

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Gustang probably talking about Arlen fight against 10 FHs and Zahard. Nothing to do with him personally.

 

[Shadowlord123]

Hmm. Does Gustang say he personally beat her or his side beat her? Which chapter was it again?

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Gustang probably talking about Arlen fight against 10 FHs and Zahard. Nothing to do with him personally.

End of chapter 637. Sounds like something more personal to me. He said it as if the situation mirrored the present one with Baam.

 

[MonsterKaido]

End of chapter 637. Sounds like something more personal to me. He said it as if the situation mirrored the present one with Baam.

I read it. He never says anything about himself. Just that his mother was foolish and failed.

 

[Shadowlord123]

I read it. He never says anything about himself. Just that his mother was foolish and failed.

IIRC, he says Baam is trying to stop what he thinks is foolish for Gustang to do, just like her mother tried to do in the past (but failed).

 

[Worst]

Blossom's flame is just a bad match-up for Traumerei's Disconnection. Traum also needs to absorb Levi, so he might be getting much stronger by the time he does that.


The chapter does suggest Blossom low diffs them though. Even with my cope, I can't argue for more than mid diff.

Rough week for my agendas man

Yeah man Blossom probably one shots.....

Traum said that " Blossom's flame is not so calm and gentile this is just a little spark "

And that spark was probably going to fk him up she one shots both of them lol and that's CRAZY counter or not

 

[LogicoftheVI]

Arlene was implied to have tried to stop Gustang in a similar way to current Baam, and she failed miserably/lost.

I took what Gustang said about her as her going against Zahard and the 10 families not just Gustang himself.

Blossom's flame is just a bad match-up for Traumerei's Disconnection. Traum also needs to absorb Levi, so he might be getting much stronger by the time he does that.

I doubt that Traum is getting Levi back. That is Baam's power now.

 

[MonsterKaido]

I took what Gustang said about her as her going against Zahard and the 10 families not just Gustang himself.

Yeah. Gustang never mentions himself beating or denying Arlen. Plus Arlen seems to be the leader not V.

 

[Tai long]

Trau has dominated this fight more than Gustang except for parts of this chapter. I wonder if Gustang has more of his powers to show? (Or else very disappointing show imo)

but it always end in favor of gustang regardless of what trau does

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I believe Gustang would have defeated Traum with that final attack had Mazino not stepped in. I like the reveal of Blossom's spark and how we learned that it was given to him to protect Enne but he did not use it and that is what caused the rift between him and Blossom. Why is no one talking about that?

I am fine with having an unpopular opinion
Also, Gustang has never felt like much of a combatant to me, he always felt like Kuhn without the physical abilities. He is a tactician and a Wave Controller " a position where one HELPS their allies in battle." "There are Wave Controllers who recklessly attack the enemy and there are those who change the tide of the battle by subtly altering the flow of the Shinsu." I would say that Gustang falls into the latter category. So to be doing this well against Traum on his own speaks to how strong and knowledgeable he truly is.

Are people maybe expecting too much from him?

Mazino is a beast Luslec told him not to interfere and he already stopped them in this chapter. What happened to Luslec and what is next? I wonder where things go from here.

I do not agree with this, the Okbi is not "V's" power or weapon. It was made by the workshop and gifted to Gustang, it is very much a weapon for him and his use. Calling it anything else would be like saying that Yuri using the Black March is not part of her ability. Or like saying the Sword Arie Han uses is not part of their ability. The Okbi is Gustangs weapon and he has had it for thousands of years.

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Why should either get the W if Urek is meant to stop the fight? I do not understand the benefit or the reasoning here. How does letting Traum win enhance the story or make the writing better?

Like you said in your own message gustang would have won the fight if urek did not step in

 

[MonsterKaido]

but it always end in favor of gustang regardless of what trau does

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Like you said in your own message gustang would have won the fight if urek did not step in

This chapter was bad for Gustang. He will lose without the spark which he got from his wife which can only be used once. Gustang's own abilities are weaker than full power Traumerei.

 

[Worst]

This chapter was bad for Gustang. He will lose without the spark which he got from his wife which can only be used once. Gustang's own abilities are weaker than full power Traumerei.

We forget that there's Lulsec though I can't accept him being able to stop Urek after the man no diffed 2 Family Heads final attack lol

So if SIU doesn't smoke anything weird it's all up to Urek now

 

[MonsterKaido]

We forget that there's Lulsec though I can't accept him being able to stop Urek after the man no diffed 2 Family Heads final attack lol

Luslec is underrated. Even if urek remotely used any significant power , the fact luslec without going all out was able to hold his own is mad impressive. I won't be surprised if current luslec is stronger than Gustang/Traumerei.