Character Discussion Zoro is Alpha, Sanji is an envious Beta as per the One Piece manga latest chapter

[Julius]

Both sides of the retard spectrum are reading too much into this.
Its a stupid joke to show how reckless both Luffy and Zoro are.
Luffy is not really feeding off of Zoro. He has always been like this.
Same way as Zoro has always been like this.
Its just another instance to show how similar Zoro and Luffy are in some regards.

@ThunderSupernova is haunted by Sanji being a M3 member and a guaranteed top tier EoS. 100% of his threads are Sanji related.

He can't stand how a cook who doesn't want to be strong and has no ambitions (according to blud's interpretation, obviously), keeps being treated with such respect in many different ways.

We are almost in 2025 and blud still thinks being a Supernova is relevant, when most all of them aren't even on Vergo's level and its all about getting 100 mi bounty before reaching the Grand Line to begin with. All my fellow @ThunderSupernova sees is that this and some other stuff makes Luffy and Zoro equal


But then if someone makes a thread about stuff only Luffy and Sanji share, him and his gang gonna tag each other and say its a leech from Luffy, and cope, headcanons.


The manga is gonna end and blud still wont be able to answer why did Zoro waited for Sanji to look down on him so he could land a hit on Lucci, for example..

Poor guy, all those years punching the air while our grandmaster himself sees the cook as a rival worth of competition... it must be tough my nikka..

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

The point









Your head

He learned to fight with his feet because hands are sacred for a cook.
And you criticise him for not using his hands.
Then why not criticise luffy for not using swordsmanship, or zoro for not having a fruit.

 

[ThunderSupernova]

Do you even like Sanji? He clearly isn't. From when he was a kid, to refusing to fight women to refusing to use his hands.

Sanji fanboys is all the same
They say Zoro is boring and shit and what not...

But they actually dream for Sanji to be the blonde version of Zoro!

 

[Doggo]

Sanji fanboys is all the same
They say Zoro is boring and shit and what not...

But they actually dream for Sanji to be the blonde version of Zoro!

But I want Sanji to have black hair, though.

 

[Buggy D Clown]

And you criticise him for not using his hands.

I wasn't criticising him for it you dumbass.
Again refer to this:

The point









Your head

 

[Chrono]

Kinda agree.

Also Luffy > Zoro >>>>> Sanji is BS
Zoro at this point dog walks Luffy.

He used to be pre timeskip. Post timeskip he has zero interest in fights or combat.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

I wasn't criticising him for it you dumbass.
Again refer to this:

Using your own words, mongoloid

Do you even like Sanji? He clearly isn't. From when he was a kid, to refusing to fight women to refusing to use his hands.

HE CLEARLY ISNT [fight oriented].
Follows by mentioning the only two things that are clearly defined by his fighting style.
1. Never hitting a woman
2. Never fighting with his HANDS
INTRODUCING, BLACK LEG SANJI (aka his title by the government is related to his fighting style, thing not even Zoro has, the pirate hunter).
Character is introduced for being fight oriented, and has had fights every arc he has been involved in.
Just because Zoro doesn't have any arc nor any depth doesn't mean other character have to be the same and be one trick pony.
In Sanji's case he fights, cooks and has also a narrative arc.

 

[BillSlipton]

Do you even like Sanji? He clearly isn't. From when he was a kid, to refusing to fight women to refusing to use his hands.

And? This doesn't mean his character isn't fight oriented

 

[trav]

Sanji being a M3

This headcanon fan made category was never relevant.
Sanji is lucky if he can manage to become Jozu level EoS.

 

[Buggy D Clown]

HE CLEARLY ISNT [fight oriented].
Follows by mentioning the only two things that are clearly defined by his fighting style.
1. Never hitting a woman
2. Never fighting with his HANDS
INTRODUCING, BLACK LEG SANJI (aka his title by the government is related to his fighting style, thing not even Zoro has, the pirate hunter).
Character is introduced for being fight oriented, and has had fights every arc he has been involved in.
Just because Zoro doesn't have any arc nor any depth doesn't mean other character have to be the same and be one trick pony.
In Sanji's case he fights, cooks and has also a narrative arc.

Cooking is his first and foremost, he is cooking oriented. That's literally what the whole no hands thing is about ya dumbass.
So much depth yet 90% of his fanbase are trying desperately to make him blonde Zoro

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Cooking is his first and foremost, he is cooking oriented. That's literally what the whole no hands thing is about ya dumbass.
So much depth yet 90% of his fanbase are trying desperately to make him blonde Zoro

Black pan sanji, that's what they call him.
In your headcanon.
Mr. Prince was clearly about cooking in alabaster, or remember against King and Queen!
Also, ironic that you talk about sanji fanbase in a thread written by zoro wankers against Sanji, lol.

 

[Buggy D Clown]

Black pan sanji, that's what they call him.
In your headcanon.
Mr. Prince was clearly about cooking in alabaster, or remember against King and Queen!
Also, ironic that you talk about sanji fanbase in a thread written by zoro wankers against Sanji, lol.

I'm talking about who Sanji is overall as a character. You are saying random shit.

Nami is about to die. The only way Sanji can save her is to either cut of his legs or cut of his arms? Which does he choose or does he let her die?
Bonus question. If he chooses to cut his legs of he has the option of punching the person responsible. Does he do it?

 

[Germinator]

We are almost in 2025 and blud still thinks being a Supernova is relevant, when most all of them aren't even on Vergo's level and its all about getting 100 mi bounty before reaching the Grand Line to begin with

2024 and glazing Supernovas is crazy

Post automatically merged: Oct 8, 2024

Pretty sad how Oda doubled Zorofans' workload online for 25 years just by making Sanji a thing

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Nah Zoro just gae
Sanji is based only str8 character in the verse

 

[ShishioIsBack]

This headcanon fan made category was never relevant.
Sanji is lucky if he can manage to become Jozu level EoS.

Lets not exaggerate now.
He can clear chance of reaching King level with few more artificial technology based buffs.

 

[LolonoisZolo]

He learned to fight with his feet because hands are sacred for a cook.
And you criticise him for not using his hands.
Then why not criticise luffy for not using swordsmanship, or zoro for not having a fruit.

Lol he didn't ''criticize'' Sanji for not using his hands, he just stated a fact to prove his point which was Sanji is, first and foremost, a cook.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Not a theory
Straight up from the very manga

"You should be ashamed!”

Bro... what?

Ashamed... of what? What should Zoro be ashamed of? Ashamed of being an Alpha male? Of being one of The Strong, the natural-born Conqueror Haki users who fear nothing?

This is easily why Luffy > Zoro >>> Sanji
This is why no CoC vs both Adv CoC, no Supernova vs both Worst Generation Supernovas and so on
Sanji will always be tiers below Zoro and Luffy

Luffy and Zoro just built different
Attitude and potential completely different

- Note how we see that from the very start
- Note how that's incredibly consistent from the very start to now, more than 1000 chapters later

Then

Now

What changed? Nothing
The Beta couldn't understand the two Alphas
The Beta still can't understand the two Alphas

This is also why Zoro and Sanji have their gags
Sanji is envious of Zoro, and Zoro doesn't want to be dragged down with Sanji


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[ShishioIsBack]

This is easily why Luffy > Zoro >>> Sanji

This is where you fucked up

 

[æFaye]

This alfa/beta thing gets really annoying especially when used for irrelevant reasons. But anyway I like Zoro’s adventurous side and I don’t see why it’s a problem for some. Sanji would always have a problem with Zoro on anything so why are people taking this seriously is beyond me.

It's always nice & fun to see how both sides of the fandom react to the chapter.

It adds variety & taste to the reading experience, rather than just boring flow like 99% of the Manga out there.

In Zoro's fandom, we got this.

In Sanji's fandom, the same scene made them insult Zoro "last chapter he said to prioritize finding the crew, this chapter he prioritize going on adventure".

But Zoro was still concerned and mentioned how they can’t see the sea and was trying to find a way out this chapter too. Him being interested in this dangerous mysterious entity doesn’t contradict with the priority of finding the crew.
In fact heading to confront the big enemy is one of the ways to ensure the missing crew members’ safety.

Sanji was mad at Zoro for being just like Luffy, asking for troubles. Luffy heard that a place is dangerous and forbidden so he couldn’t help himself. It had nothing to do with the missing crew but more so with Luffy and Zoro’s nature of disrespecting the place they go to and fall in trouble doing so (similar to skypia).

 

[Germinator]

Lets not exaggerate now.
He can clear chance of reaching King level with few more artificial technology based buffs.

Zoro fans hate the idea of science being another major source of power along with Devil Fruits & Haki -- they're already trying to convince everyone that swordsmanship is the third & the last in that dynamic

Unfortunately for them, this wasn't performed by some sword technique