Questions & Mysteries Why is Zoro much more relevant than Luffy to the fandom?

[ShishioIsBack]

Lets quickly compare Zoro's relevance to Shanks in Dressrosa
If Zoro wasn't there, Pica would have Killed Usopp, he would have killed King Riku, he would have Killed Nico Robin, bartolomeo, Grand Fleet won't be formed and worse of all Luffy would freeze in his tracks looking at Usopp or Nico Robin's death, Doffy kills him and story ends.

Now your turn, tell me what role Shanks played in Dressrosa? @Red Admiral

 

[HA001]

shishio you had people arguing zoro was mid diffing cracker or possibly beating katakuri .
suggesting that zoro was stronger than doffy, luffy, and law in dressrossa but was held back due to plot. That doesnt fly
and that is def overatted.

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so he does the same with zoro
hopefully with king so we can get the community back to what it was. cause he really hasnt had a challenge.

If zoro goes and solos king now they alk true. What then?

 

[ShishioIsBack]

shishio you had people arguing zoro was mid diffing cracker or possibly beating katakuri .
suggesting that zoro was stronger than doffy, luffy, and law in dressrossa but was held back due to plot. That doesnt fly
and that is def overatted.

Have you seen @Cinera 's thread and how good his Cracker < Dressrosa Zoro arguments are.
If there was no canon basis for Cracker < Dressrosa Zoro, how is it possible to format such great arguments with so much backing from manga?

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

If zoro goes and solos king now they alk true. What then?

then it easy to scale where he is like luffy post kat
yc1 or so
given that he is stronger after training in enma
its no longer inconsistent. one could argue he got to that level of strength after training.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Anyways I gotta work go back to work lol
Ya'll fucking crazy though entertaining as fuck. Especially @Red Admiral , I love it when he looses his shit

 

[HA001]

then it easy to scale where he is like luffy post kat
yc1 or so
given that he is stronger after training in enma
its no longer inconsistent. one could argue he got to that level of strength after training.

Thats cap.
Theres a huge gap from king to dressrosa doffy let alone luffy and law back then that saying its soley just because of the enma training is bollocks.
Youre basically saying zoro jumped from below yc3 to beat a yc1 (using these fanmade shit) in those 2 weeks.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Thats cap.
Theres a huge gap from king to dressrosa doffy let alone luffy and law back then that saying its soley just because of the enma training is bollocks.
Youre basically saying zoro jumped from below yc3 to beat a yc1 (using these fanmade shit) in those 2 weeks.

I mean how long did luffy take to jump from weaker than cracker to >=kat

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

But One Piece fan base is weird as fuck, actual feats like mountain busting, reacting to lightening, shit that would translate to other verses don't count but defeating name value opponents does..

That's funny because in any other verse, scaling is a widely used way of determining the strength of characters with little to no feats, but for some reason in doesn't apply in One Piece when it comes to vs battles involving characters scaled higher than Zoro. According to you guys nobody should be able to beat Zoro unless they have the feats to match his or greater. Scaling be damned.

 

[Balen]

cause Luffy fans are not insecure about him ... and don't use toxic shit to hype him up base on nothing

Luffy problem : he have too much achievement ... like when he beat Kata
Zoro Problem : he have shit

ok ... it's wired ... how can you type when you should be only 1 week old or something?

Zoro wank doesn't exist

:zorothink:

are you implying that zoro wank exists:queenhear:

 

[HA001]

I mean how long did luffy take to jump from weaker than cracker to >=kat

Luffy had 3 extreme fights to reach that level. All where he was pushed to g4.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

people are different fighters
you dont need to bust mountains to show you are stronger than x character
you do so by taking down stronger characters than the other person.

when feats are absent
we can defer to portrayal

 

[Balen]

Luffy had 3 extreme fights to reach that level. All where he was pushed to g4.

Kata would still kick the shit outta luffy

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Luffy had 3 extreme fights to reach that level. All where he was pushed to g4.

I would argue it took one day (from the time he met cracker to when he beat katakuri)
which is far less than how long zoro took training

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Kata would still kick the shit outta luffy

uh
strong doubt

 

[HA001]

I would argue it took one day (from the time he met cracker to when he beat katakuri)
which is far less than how long zoro took training

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uh
strong doubt

Be serious if he could grow that much in 2 weeks on his own hed be yonko level after 2 years training with mihawk.
Heck we see him training in the bamboo forest and its standard training yet somehow hes jumped 3 or 4 levels ?

 

[nik87]

Before Wano people complained that we wank Zoro based on nothing.
After Wano people will complain that we wank Zoro based on facts...
Zoro topic gets more traffic from non-Zoro fans than Zoro fans, at least on this forum.
Official polls always keep him close to Luffy, even in arcs where he isnt taking part, if that is not flexing I dont know what is.
Luffy fans dont want Zoro anywhere close to Luffy, Sanji fans want Zoro as close as possible to Sanji and both are wrong...

 

[Red Admiral]

are you implying that zoro wank exists:queenhear:

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Cause there is no rivalry with Luffy

With Zoro, you have Sanji fans who want to throw him with stones lol

You also have Luffy fans who want to keep Zoro in check

You have the Shanks/Mihawk agenda for Zoro

You have more and more


With Luffy? I mean there is not that type of tension

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Be serious if he could grow that much in 2 weeks on his own hed be yonko level after 2 years training with mihawk.
Heck we see him training in the bamboo forest and its standard training yet somehow hes jumped 3 or 4 levels ?

I am being honest
we witnessed luffy grow from < cracker to >= katakuri in a day did we not.
you also assume in this fight
zoro doesnt grow within the fight like luffy did
or doesnt have a warmup before hand.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Be serious if he could grow that much in 2 weeks on his own hed be yonko level after 2 years training with mihawk.
Heck we see him training in the bamboo forest and its standard training yet somehow hes jumped 3 or 4 levels ?

Training can only get you so far. Especially when it comes to Haki, as the only way to unlock stronger Haki is under extreme circumstances.

 

[HA001]

I am being honest
we witnessed luffy grow from < cracker to >= katakuri in a day did we not.
you also assume in this fight
zoro doesnt grow within the fight like luffy did
or doesnt have a warmup before hand.

Training can only get you so far. Especially when it comes to Haki, as the only way to unlock stronger Haki is under extreme circumstances.

Thats what im telling lanji.