No offense taken.
There was a moment of derealization at one point indeed. It was a bad mental state conditionned by a stressfull period for me due to a number of personnal things that I won't developp. So this place of intense doubt was also helped by my mental state.
Now, it doesn't means that everyone must do what I did. Too much doubt is not good. Really not pleasant and difficult to recover from.
In a sence yeah.. but by the algorithms, this movement toward far right ideas was helped by a number a various things that I was seeing on youtube at the time. It lead me to be off on a large number of subjects.
Ignorance also helped. I had no knowledge of any political things at the time so I could be molded very easily.
Good idea ! I might. I already I understood a few important things because of this:
Stuff like this content might help us understand how to make a difference.
It wouldn't be surprising. That's why I often tries, instead of talking about facts, to talk about the values behind opinions or ask questions like "What would you need to question your belief system ?" which is a technique of street epistemology.
If they answer me "science".. then we have a common ground.. but when they don't take science seriously, there is not much to do..
Oh... this again ? This is tiring..
Mate, if you can't understand that similar political opinions and philosophical values are regrouped behind certains political groups or institutions, we are not gonna make any progress.
Talks down, yes. Maybe. i've said it, I take a volontary arrogant shape to protect myself.
Flooded with fallacies ? No. Sadly for you, not at all. What I say is the result of the work of other people. And i'm always careful to repeat this work with care, details and no fallacy. And when I don't know, like in the discussion that I have with Blax about anarchism and communism, I ask questions and do not assume anything. I can make mistakes, but those are exceptions.
I'm not smarter than Ravager or Nameless, i'm simply for informed on various political and scientific subjects. And on different of those subjects, there is no debate to have.
Fair. Then listen to the work of those I promote.
Yes. For things that need to be debate. We do not debate if the earth is flat, we debunk it. We do not debate if Gun create less violences, we debunk it.
When studies have proven some points, there is no debate to have.
Also, and that something that peple like you don't understand, debating with problematic ideas gives them a place and legitimize them as legitimate idea to debate. It displace the overton windows toward problematic vision and opinion and the marginalize more rationnal behaviors.
And this should not happen. All opinions should not be debated.
And that's the problem. There is none. When people refuse to listen to science, there is no common ground to debate on.
I never attack the personnal life of people. I only attack the opinion shared and the behaviors. And yes, when those opinions are negative, don't expect me to think that their way of life is positive.
Again, we don't live in a world where people with hardcore conservative ideas can just think outside of the box by themselves (the same works in reverse for people like me). Political opinions LIKE behaviors and experiences are the result of material conditions and environmental pressure.
It's time to stop believing in the myth of the lonely positive cow boy.
Indeed. Because I scratched the others possibility.
If people were coherent and indeed refused to listen to me while being rational people, they would be at least understanding the power of basic scientific researches. Those researches that I'm constantly flooding this thread with and which are all over
The Leftist library.
BUT
Those guys refuse those evidences. They refuse even to consider as scientific the study that I share.
Which means that the problem is not me not explaining well enough or my arguments being bad or my behavior being arrogant, it's the behavior of those people that are not willing to listen to anything remotely rationnal.
So.. yeah. People here have a problem at listening. Which is exactly what Mathias is saying when he says that it is sometimes explained that people, even in front of facts, will have hard time accepting it.
And here it's you not understanding that I do.
We can throw the ball at each others for hours like that.
So.. how do we stop this ? Well, we look at who has the facts on their side, and who refuses to listen.
My arrogance is only an excuse for you guys to protect yourself from self-questionning. You don't need me to refuse the data I provide. You have denied their legitimacy long before I arrive.
Oh ? That's new. Hypocrite on what exactly ? Do you understand the meaning of this word ?
I think you have an observation problem lol
Those guys actually keep on proving my point.
And the cat is green...
Mate, they are closer to you politically than you from me. Of course they will listen to you.
Well, that might be why I'm constantly attacked by those guys on my mental condition ?
or
Why people like you and them keep on gaslighting the F out of me and lying about most of the things I say btalantly or deforming things factually?
or
Why i've been insulted like CRAZY by guys like this on this forum or even had death threats sent to me while still trying to discuss ?
Poor snowflakes..
"I don't treat them as people" ?.. You guys see three labels and someone saying "you are wrong" and you panic. Meanwhile I have to tank the negativity of this forum and I STILL MANAGE TO NEVER INSULT ANYONE and be respectfull of not crossing any line and be empathic EVEN when a person is being the biggest deepsh*t toward me and completely and REALLY dehumanize me by literally question my personnal life and my existence.
Y'a un moment où il va falloir arrêter de se foutre de ma gueule.
The moment I will start to give you (my political opposant here) back
10% of what you ACTUALLY gave me on this forum when I was actually not trying to be respectfull, then yes, you will be able to tell that I'm negative or problematic or don't treat people as people. But this will be so violent that I will be
instant Banned.
You, Van, keep talking about my lack of self awareness but you don't even realize the CONTROL that I manage to developp everyday while replying here to people who are literally looking at me like a parasite.
It's ok. I don't mind. I signed this contract when I came on this forum with the mindset of doing something about the negativity. But really, you are not the genius you think you are by trying to make me look like someone who dehumanizes people here.
