Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1130 Spoilers Discussion

[Fujishiro]

Yes?
To put it into perspective, he neg diff'd Luffy in Round 1 and lost after 3x Rounds, with Luffy getting one revive after another, & using the equivalent of Kairoseki to Croc's DF.

If that's not plot armor... then what is it lol?

You do know that plot armor has been helping Luffy in every fight he ever fought, this doesnt change the fact that Crocodile seemingly seemed to be around Alabasta Luffys level physically and suddenly in MF hes not.

 

[ConquistadoR]

All of this is fine and dandy but you know what the most important thing is? Alabasta Luffy was overpowering him physically lol.

Luffy had enough raw power to one-shot Sea Kings in chapter 1.
He went on to make Magellan, Blackbeard & Garp bleed too.

That's handwaved as plot, but Croc is an exception?

 

[Fujishiro]

“It’s a retcon because my dumbass had a different opinion”

So you too believe Alabasta Luffy = Jozu in physical strength got you.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

So you too believe Alabasta Luffy = Jozu in physical strength got you.

Who on earth would believe that?

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

All of this is fine and dandy but you know what the most important thing is? Alabasta Luffy was overpowering him physically lol.

Who do you think would win an arm wrestling contest between Saint Shanks and fruitless Jesus Burgess? Hint hint, Burgess would body him.

Gear 2 Luffy would one shot A character around Alabastas level, Jozu is above that.

Prove it.

But thats the thing, he doesnt have haki and Jozu does therefore he hits harder.

No one said Jozu doesn’t hit harder than Alabasta Luffy. But you just assumed Jozu should be able to one shot Alabasta Croc and that assumption is based on literally nothing.

 

[Fujishiro]

Luffy had enough raw power to one-shot Sea Kings in chapter 1.
He went on to make Magellan, Blackbeard & Garp bleed too.

That's handwaved as plot, but Croc is an exception?

He couldnt do shit to Blueno with Tekkai, suddenly with G2 he could. Like just stop lol.

Who do you think would win an arm wrestling contest between Saint Shanks and fruitless Jesus Burgess? Hint hint, Burgess would body him.

Do you think Alabasta Luffy can still overpower Croc physically without Haki?

Prove it.

Are we really doing this bro, are you going to pretend Water Seven and Enies Lobby didnt exist?

No one said Jozu doesn’t hit harder than Alabasta Luffy. But you just assumed Jozu should be able to one shot Alabasta Croc and that assumption is based on literally nothing.

Well lets say he doesnt one shot him even though the man was getting manhandled by Alabasta Luffy. Doesnt that mean that Croc got physically stronger from Alabasta to MF.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

wtf are yall talking about?

Croc was clearly retconned into way higher level

That's an undeniable fact

 

[Fujishiro]

Who on earth would believe that?

The three stooges, Sakazouki, Lee and Conq think Alabasta Luffy cant be one shot by Jozu. Or at the very least seriously injured lol.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

wtf are yall talking about?

Croc was clearly retconned into way higher level

That's an undeniable fact

This the type of dude who thought the irrelevant elephant could defeat Dorry before this chapter lmfao

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

The three stooges, Sakazouki, Lee and Conq think Alabasta Luffy cant be one shot by Jozu.

Damn, Sanjikun's corrupted the forum.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

I do not know how to feel about ANY of this

 

[Fujishiro]

This the type of dude who thought the irrelevant elephant could defeat Dorry before this chapter lmfao

I dont know man, I think its easier to accept he was retconned physically rather then believe Alabasta Luffy can still fuck Croc up without Haki.

 

[SakazOuki]

Erm, Lorian gave up his legs to help his little brother lmfao. Losing his legs had nothing to do with the demon prince. Lorian literally bisected the strongest demon ever cleanly.



He is an OG lord level being, to be sure. He negged Artorias.



Yeah Ornstein actively worshipped the Nameless King and modeled his whole fighting style after him.

Lorian > Gwyn is literally Tairoji > Renpa
It’s the same tactic Lee just changes the verse lmao @TheKnightOfTheSea
I think Manus is clear of the 4 lords, a lot of the areas we visit in game would be pitch black or dark, but to make the game playable we get some light from what I understand, all the influence of Manus. He’s Gwyn’s counterpart basically

Nameless and Gwyn are like Thor & Odin, mighty warrior son, omnipotent (at one point) father who granted powers to his children

 

[Cross_Marian]

“It’s a retcon because my dumbass had a different opinion”

OP fans would argue with Oda

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

I do not know how to feel about ANY of this

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

The three stooges, Sakazouki, Lee and Conq think Alabasta Luffy cant be one shot by Jozu. Or at the very least seriously injured lol.

This punch was intended to kill Luffy

If Jozu one shots Alabasta Luffy, why couldn’t Sengoku himself do the same?

 

[sanjikun]

wtf are yall talking about?

Croc was clearly retconned into way higher level

That's an undeniable fact

No it fucking isn't. He was always a Warlord of the Sea. After his defeat the Gorosei specifically said they have to fill out the hole left by him or the balance of power would be off.

They said his absence could "shake the world".

 

[ConquistadoR]

The three stooges, Sakazouki, Lee and Conq think Alabasta Luffy cant be one shot by Jozu.

We said "Alabasta Crocodile >>>> pre skip Luffy" and the takeaway here is that we said "Alabasta Luffy can't be one shot by Jozu"

 

[MonochromeYoru]

“It’s a retcon because my dumbass had a different opinion”

Pre time skip no gears condom beat croc

how the fuck do you explain that?

Croc also didn't show a lick of haki even though this clown supposedly went up against Prime WB. What's your explanation for that?
Now he magically knows haki. Got any reason for that?

It's retarded to think oda didn't retcon stuff. He constantly does that