Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1130 Spoilers Discussion

How Strong is Loki?


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Kizaru was scratchless at end of Egghead despite having outlasted G5, Shanks one shotted 3B berries Kid alongside with Killer as appetizer, Loki is seemingly extremely powerful so he could end up being above Kaido, let's not even get to importat Luffy fights like Akainu/Blackbeard, there's Dragon the most wanted man etc.
are u saying kizaru is stronger than kaido ? from wht i recall kizaru could only land one hit from a high distance did no damage n got toyed w in a 2v1
 
Buddy I never said he was stronger than them, are you okay? All I said was that characters being on that list doesn't necessitate them being stronger than him.
Once again, if you have an actual brain and can read, you will know that kaido has 0% chance of being equal to the legends lol. That's why they are legends.

And if 3 of the 5 characters are undoubtedly above kaido, and another one basically had kaido dead to rights were it not for a fake hostage situation, then that means the 5th one is also above kaido.

It's like yall can't even understand basic patter recognition or Portrayal. Or refuse to acknowledge it because of how deep you are entrenched in agenda.
 

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Still better than the flash movie tbh. Honestly outside of The Batman and The Suicide Squad, DC movies have been mid at best and shit on average now a days.
I dream with War of Light and Blackest Night.
Kinda wish they just did animated films of these, like the first flight and emerald knights.
Kinda bored of live actions.
Unless they bring Mark Strong back as Sinestro. That alone would carry my hype.
 
are u saying kizaru is stronger than kaido ? from wht i recall kizaru could only land one hit from a high distance did no damage n got toyed w in a 2v1
No kizaru defeated All out Luffy in their two pieces when he can't even dominate luffy with Saturn help
Shanks beating Kidd offguard means he's above Kaido

Everyone is above kaido yet everyone doing worse than him combat wise or haven't done much against someone on guard more impressive than kaido did
 
His bounty is justified by his feats and portrayal, they only can’t accept it because Shanks one shotted Kidd.
Even with this, if y’all actually read 1079, Oda repeatedly highlights Kid’s strength via his bounty in order to hype Shanks when Kid is ultimately defeated.

Shanks had two 1.8 billion berry fighters on his side on top of his already busted crew and none of them did shit until after Kid was defeated.
 
Linlin > Shanks
  • Both matched Kaido
  • One became Yonko due her strength and family mainly
  • The other became yonko mainly due to his leadership and commanders being famous
  • Linlin rivaled Roger and Primebeard to a point they feared her
  • She has higher bounty
Great pirate bounties shows thier hierarchy
Roger > wB > Kaido > BM > Shanks >= Teach > Luffy
It's not a coincidence that the 3 strongest guys who were once WSP at one point have the highest bounties
Save that same energy in case Shanks gets a bigger bounty than she has in the future please
 
"BM is mid top tier but Shanks is high top tier cause he beat Kidd (not plot armour) offguard "



Imu will have his attacks tanked by weak people in the final war
You'll be saying he's below Shanks

That's how retarded your scaling work
 
Impel down Luffy fucked up Teach
Same Teach who scarred Shanks
Same Teach who beats Rayleigh now (no, his haki and physicals didn’t change)

Gear2 Luffy casually stopped Crocodile, a 1.9bil pirate, from attacking Whitebeard, was that a retcon too
Alabasta Crocodile wasn’t retconned, the whole manga was retconned at those early stages
1.Lol Impel Luffy did not F up teach. He hit him once that got his shit push in. BB is known to be overconfident and taking first hit stop making shit up. Just cause they have blood on his face mean he is remotely close to his limit. Luffy at MF had Garp bleeding but common sense showed you aluffy was nowhere near his level.
2. Where tf you get Croc was 1.o Bill 2 years ago when he stop being a warlord back then. Like Jinbei he must of gotten a bounty after MF and traveling through NW for 2 years. CG is his updated bounty currently he been not a warlord. We seen people can get stronger like Lucci did.
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Once again, if you have an actual brain and can read, you will know that kaido has 0% chance of being equal to the legends lol. That's why they are legends.

And if 3 of the 5 characters are undoubtedly above kaido, and another one basically had kaido dead to rights were it not for a fake hostage situation, then that means the 5th one is also above kaido.

It's like yall can't even understand basic patter recognition or Portrayal. Or refuse to acknowledge it because of how deep you are entrenched in agenda.
Again, I never said Kaido was > Roger, Whitebeard or Xebec, if you could read, you'd have figured that out three posts ago.

No because the list isn't "five characters stronger than me", the list is "five characters I respect", the fact that three of them are stronger is just a coincidence that you're trying to twist into a pattern. Kaido beat Oden without using anything more than base and dragon lmfao.

Kaido is the strongest, that has been stated so many fucking times, and even in regards to Shanks specifically, Kaido and King both still consider Kaido stronger even after having fought the RHP on their way to Marineford lmao, your logic relies on believing that Kaido and King are either retarded or amnesiac, when in reality, it's just you that is delusional and refuses to accept very simple facts.
 
Marco slapped King around in every on panel exchange they've had. Oda made sure to not include a single panel where King with help from either another commander or fodder is shown pressing Marco or overpowering him.

It's crystal clear that King can't beat Marco 1v1. Wano is over. Accept reality.
you sound like the retards who keep crying BB cant beat Law and that Law lost to Teach and his nakama just because it was never on panel, ignoring all implication and contexts just because of useless agenda has never gotten anyone anywhere why you trying to push it?

You have panels of Queen leaving King and Marco to fight, you then have Marco beaten on the ground, anyone with a half working brain would understand Marco lost and Oda couldn't show King fighting before he fought Zoro but alas
 
Save that same energy in case Shanks gets a bigger bounty than she has in the future please
Unless he's newgen, which he isn't. Shanks fate was sealed when we got their bounties already in the same chapter

He also became Yonko mainly because of his leadership and commanders being famous & crew being balanced
Unlike BM, WB and kaido who all became Yonko because of their strength mainly. Especially Kaido.

Even when he defeated Kidd, Oda highlighted his leadership as good leader and crew being balanced once again
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Once again for the dumb ones, Quinn was busy with Chopper and Sanji:seriously:
Yeah Queen was busy with Chopper their but we find out Sanji fought King and Queen offscreen when Marco was exhausted in the same page you posted
 
Luffy hasn't used G5 better, he's used G4 better, and we have no idea if the drawback is entirely removed or how it actually compares to a full G4 transformation.

AP is one attribute, Kaido was also outperforming G5 repeatedly.

He was called the strongest by Kidd/Killer and King who aren't fodder, Oda in an SBS, many times by the narrator, in the databooks/vivre cards, Ace novel, and Kaido himself says he's the strongest after fighting Shanks, and obviously knowing about the strongest people alive at that time.

Luffy has not surpassed Kaido at all.

Kaido > Shanks/Dragon/Akainu/current Blackbeard is already stated, only one of them has been called the strongest alive.

Your opinion doesn't overwrite things stated within the manga and even by the author himself unfortunately.
In the end feats are important for me, Statements been said and only implied that Kaido was be said to be the strongest.

In fact we never hear a statement with said "Kaido is the strongest" but was said to be the strongest. Killer only repeat that line, Kid never called him the strongest.

And that is the point, Killer never saw someone like Kaido, since they never saw Shanks in first place. Oda tricked the community knowing it would hype people with Statements like"said to be the strongest". But he doesn't needed to confirm it, since in his mind he already have character in back up who gonna surpass Kaido.

We saw only two top tiers fight with Kaido, one vs Oden and the another vs Luffy.

And Luffy surpassed Kaido, G5 could toe toe against Kaido, yes he still Dominated him, but he couldn't knock out G5 anymore, he used all his strongest attacks and failed to put down Luffy. That is the point, G5 is above Kaido, since G5 can knock out Kaido(seen) but Kaido can't knock out G5.

Everyone can try to stall G5, but if someone can knock out G5, he show to have stronger AP than Kaido.

And that is the point.
Current Luffy is high diffing his EoW Luffy Version. We saw Luffy can now use G5 without transformig into a old men if he use it for short time. We saw him using now G4 far better.

Law can now use his awakening very casual, got haki boost after his battle against Big Mom.

Means they get stronger.
Luffy just needed two weeks and a extrem battle against Kaido, to jump from high high tier(Kata lvl) to mid/high top tier lvl(Kaido).

And you know how much time pass after his battle against Kaido was now one month(even longer) ago. Means he had 4-6 weeks to even grow more stronger. And before you coming up with stuff like he didn't had hard battles, he had a full battle day against Lucci,Kizaru and Gorosei.

Current Luffy got stronger.
He can easily high diff his EoW Luffy.
He is Kaido Level.
And if Loki can fight current Luffy equal, he is equal to Kaido.

Shonen manga never introduce one of the strongest characters few arcs early. They always show up one/two arcs before the final villian of the manga shows up.
 
All i can say is Dorry and Brogy having equal bounties is a foreshadow for Zoro and Sanji's bounties at some point

We already had Sanji having more than Zoro, Zoro having more than Sanji, and now Sanji being number 4th.

Having equal bounties is a matter of time :quest:
Why lanji fans are always so desperate?
 
I dream with War of Light and Blackest Night.
Kinda wish they just did animated films of these, like the first flight and emerald knights.
Kinda bored of live actions.
Unless they bring Mark Strong back as Sinestro. That alone would carry my hype.
Mark Strong did super well. And yeah LAs just don’t fit green lantern too much. Tbh since we got a good death of Superman animated movie I was so hoping we’d see emerald twilight animated and maybe finally Kyle Rainer can get some love outside of the comics since dudes imo the best legacy character for the green lanterns but just gets 0 screen time really
 
"Holding T-W-O pirates worth over 1 Billion is pretty tough"
- Marco, the birdie.

"Damn, it's tough to fight the T-W-O of them at the same time"
- Sanji, the leg.

oNce AGaIn fOr tHE dUmB oNes
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"Damn, it's tough to fight the T-W-O of them at the same time"
- Sanji, the leg.
Damn it, Sanji was fighting both of them :crazwhat: And what did Marco do and who beat him so that he was lying at King's feet? Unclear:quest:
 
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