Controversial General Political Discussion

[Monkey D Theories]

I don't think they have all the power, but a lot of it and perhaps the majority of it.

jewish elites are quite influential and play their role in American support of Israel. But as I said, there are multiple layers behind this.

• American opposition to Iran and its bid for supremacy in the middle east
• American Islamophobia and anti-Arab racism
• Christian fundamentalism(they want Jews to have Israel so Jesus returns)
• The military industrial complex

It’s not so simple as a handful of bad people plotting to destroy Palestine. If it was that simple, the conflict would be resolved decades ago.

 

[Zenos7]

I certainly don't regard people that doubt Mary's virginity and holiness as Christian.

doesnt matter what you regard as christian or jewish.

 

[NikaInParis]

A Zionist lobby running America? Lmao

Bruh you legit believe the Jews run the world nonsense. Downright Nazi propaganda

No? I kniw it's hard for a American-exceptionalism-bot to accept that american politicians do their best to appease certain lobbyists who in turn funnel billions of dollars to Israel but hey, you do you Mr. Gazans-need-to-die-because-somebody-told-me-gays-get-thrown-from-buildings-there.

And you talk about propaganda lmaoo

 

[Zenos7]

Your stats are BS. Research before posting.
In an email to Jewish Currents, Newport confirmed his methodology for reaching the 95% figure: He identified 128 people who described their religion as “Jewish” in the broader studies and used that subsample for his calculation. He estimated that the margin of error for his calculation was between 7 and 10%, explaining, “With small sample sizes, there is a significant margin of error on either side of the point estimate, so [the calculations] are just that—estimates.”
https://jewishcurrents.org/are-95-of-jews-really-zionists

well shit around 80-90% is still the majority though?

 

[Mathias]

people that doubt Mary's virginity

"Women don't poop" but unironically

 

[Blax Blah]

Well the election is 14 days away. Let's go over what a potential Trump or Kamala presidency would bring. Please note that this also takes into consideration their whole administration and political allies who wants them to win. It's not the candidates alone.

Trump
-Wants to continue Reagan's trinkle down economics strategy. More tax cuts across the board and more jobs, but higher inflation and easier wealth hording for the rich.
-Wants to further deregulate the market which means more power to capitalist
-Seeks to move away from Globalization and escalate tension with China but removing all support from the country(because China is on the road to replace America as the #1 superpower).
-Cracking down on not only illegal immigration, but immigration in general
-Wants do dismantle the liberal form of government(3 equal branches) by giving the Executive Branch more power. Schedule F(create by Trump), allows the President to fire anyone at will(and replace them with yes men).
-More executive power to the President also means they can change what's legal to their benefit
-Wants to criminalize gender expression and abortion as pornography, which allows jobs to refuse any LGBTQ person through technically legal means.

Kamala
-Wants to reduce inflation
-Wants to increase taxes across the board, and tax unrealized capital gains(investments), which would lead to higher unemployment.
-Wants to give financial support and tax credit to first time home buyers(something mentioned for years with negative results)
-Wants to reduce medical costs(done nothing about it for years)
-Wants to crack down on illegal immigration(spent years supporting it which gives Companies cheap labor, and an excuse to keep wages low).
-Flip flops between support and fighting against Trump's border wall
-No details on her social policy and just says the usual "I support all minorities and LGBTQ", despite anti-lgbtq laws being passed when she was VP.
-No presence and when she was sent to negotiate with Putin, he invaded Ukraine 3 days later.
-Pro globization, so increased amount of tax money being sent to foreign nations to fuel wars.


So with Trump, you could have a better economy but an erosion of social rights and what little democracy the U.S. has. Potential instability. With Harris, it would be business as usual with the democrats doing the opposite of what they claim but at a worse rate.

Hey, I have a suggestion, would you like to hold discussions about topics we chose, like @Uncle Van does in this message, the message being specifically about the election, and we can make polls on what to discuss and in what order, vote on them to decide, and when we discuss something, we can say what we think about ti, why we think that about it, and recommend resources and literature to learn more?,

@Mathias @Zenos7 @Monkey D Theories @NAMELESS @Roo @Brush D. Teeth @Rej @NikaInParis @Alexis2282AE @Logiko @Toby D. Dog @Mr. Reloaded @Daniel @Apollo @Adeer Ruckus @AL sama

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

jewish elites are quite influential and play their role in American support of Israel. But as I said, there are multiple layers behind this.

• American opposition to Iran and its bid for supremacy in the middle east
• American Islamophobia and anti-Arab racism
• Christian fundamentalism(they want Jews to have Israel so Jesus returns)
• The military industrial complex

It’s not so simple as a handful of bad people plotting to destroy Palestine. If it was that simple, the conflict would be resolved decades ago.

A lot of the influential people of the other groups are business partners and lobby with them so of course they don't bite themselves among dogs.

 

[Mathias]

Actual leftists are literal communists who want to abolish private property and think billionaires shouldn’t exist.

Thread is rich in casual trolling I see


But just for your culture. Redistribution wealth and land has been a thing for thousands of years way before the word communism was even uttered

Well the election is 14 days away. Let's go over what a potential Trump or Kamala presidency would bring. Please note that this also takes into consideration their whole administration and political allies who wants them to win. It's not the candidates alone.

Trump
-Wants to continue Reagan's trinkle down economics strategy. More tax cuts across the board and more jobs, but higher inflation and easier wealth hording for the rich.
-Wants to further deregulate the market which means more power to capitalist
-Seeks to move away from Globalization and escalate tension with China but removing all support from the country(because China is on the road to replace America as the #1 superpower).
-Cracking down on not only illegal immigration, but immigration in general
-Wants do dismantle the liberal form of government(3 equal branches) by giving the Executive Branch more power. Schedule F(create by Trump), allows the President to fire anyone at will(and replace them with yes men).
-More executive power to the President also means they can change what's legal to their benefit
-Wants to criminalize gender expression and abortion as pornography, which allows jobs to refuse any LGBTQ person through technically legal means.

Kamala
-Wants to reduce inflation
-Wants to increase taxes across the board, and tax unrealized capital gains(investments), which would lead to higher unemployment.
-Wants to give financial support and tax credit to first time home buyers(something mentioned for years with negative results)
-Wants to reduce medical costs(done nothing about it for years)
-Wants to crack down on illegal immigration(spent years supporting it which gives Companies cheap labor, and an excuse to keep wages low).
-Flip flops between support and fighting against Trump's border wall
-No details on her social policy and just says the usual "I support all minorities and LGBTQ", despite anti-lgbtq laws being passed when she was VP.
-No presence and when she was sent to negotiate with Putin, he invaded Ukraine 3 days later.
-Pro globization, so increased amount of tax money being sent to foreign nations to fuel wars.


So with Trump, you could have a better economy but an erosion of social rights and what little democracy the U.S. has. Potential instability. With Harris, it would be business as usual with the democrats doing the opposite of what they claim but at a worse rate.

That's funny because at first I read Kamala instead of Trump and was kinda confused...



And it's Harris not Kamala. She ain't a comrade lol.

 

[Uncle Van]

Thread is rich in casual trolling I see


But just for your culture. Redistribution wealth and land has been a thing for thousands of years way before the word communism was even uttered




That's funny because at first I read Kamala instead of Trump and was kinda confused...



And it's Harris not Kamala. She ain't a comrade lol.

Leftism=communism was all because of the Red Scare propaganda back in the 50s. It was very successful.

And I was originally gonna call them McDonald Trump and Kamala Kahn but I changed it lol.

 

[Roo]

No? I kniw it's hard for a American-exceptionalism-bot to accept that american politicians do their best to appease certain lobbyists who in turn funnel billions of dollars to Israel but hey, you do you Mr. Gazans-need-to-die-because-somebody-told-me-gays-get-thrown-from-buildings-there.

And you talk about propaganda lmaoo

American politicians do their best at “appeasing” Israel because is a strategic stronghold and wildly popular with their constituents.

did you even read my initial post? You retards want to insult people and accuse them of things without even understanding what they said. Did I say I think Gazans deserve to die? Or did I just said I agree with their culture being shit?

The fact that you take offense to that shows how fuck backwards your brain is lmao. If someone were to say “1800s southern U.S had a shit culture” I would be like “yeah, any culture that enables slavery is shit, let alone on race basis”

It says quite a lot you dumbasses will go to bat for such a shit culture. Maybe that Adeer guy wasn’t trolling and some of you are totally fine with such barbaric positions.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Leftism=communism was all because of the Red Scare propaganda back in the 50s. It was very successful.

And I was originally gonna call them McDonald Trump and Kamala Kahn but I changed it lol.

I spend time in leftist spaces

Perhaps it was a bit of stretch to call them all communists. But they are communist adjacent.

They don’t see communism as this evil boogeyman but an ideal that societies ought to aspire to achieve.

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As opposed to liberals, who are pro capitalism but may be socially progressive

 

[Roo]

I spend time in leftist spaces

Perhaps it was a bit of stretch to call them all communists. But they are communist adjacent.

They don’t see communism as this evil boogeyman but an ideal that societies ought to aspire to achieve.

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As opposed to liberals, who are pro capitalism but may be socially progressive

That’s because communism and socialism are quite interchangeable, and only recently the distinction has grown between the two

 

[Monkey D Theories]

That’s because communism and socialism are quite interchangeable, and only recently the distinction has grown between the two

Both communists and socialists self identify as leftists and do not see liberals as part of their community

The right calls liberals leftists in order to slander them.

 

[Blax Blah]

That’s because communism and socialism are quite interchangeable, and only recently the distinction has grown between the two

Hehe, recently relatively maybe so, I think the leninists originally made it,

 

[Roo]

Hehe, recently relatively maybe so, I think the leninists originally made it,

Yeah that’s what I mean by “recently”, Lenin was the guy who said communism is the ultimate goal of socialism. It’s only years later the distinction started to pick irrc. For example Castro used socialism and communism interchangeably

 

[Blax Blah]

Yeah that’s what I mean by “recently”, Lenin was the guy who said communist is the ultimate goal of socialism.

 

[Roo]

Both communists and socialists self identify as leftists and do not see liberals as part of their community

The right calls liberals leftists in order to slander them.

I know a few socialist who do not align with communism and thinks it just leads to authoritarianism. They lean more on the democratic socialist side

 

[Mathias]

I spend time in leftist spaces

Perhaps it was a bit of stretch to call them all communists. But they are communist adjacent.

They don’t see communism as this evil boogeyman but an ideal that societies ought to aspire to achieve.

Not really. You will find plenty of social democrats who are anti communist to the point of betraying and killing commies.

That’s because communism and socialism are quite interchangeable, and only recently the distinction has grown between the two

« Recently » as in more than a century ago

 

[Blax Blah]

Not really. You will find plenty of social democrats who are anti communist to the point of betraying and killing commies.



« Recently » as in more than a century ago

Relatively recent, actually I think if you look at the development of ideas of political theory, up until now, that happened 2/3 of the way through,

 

[Roo]

« Recently » as in more than a century ago

I’ve used Castro as an example, and he rose as a communist figure in the 60s lol