General & Others Why didnt Elbaf do anything to Linlin for the past 6 decades?

[The DevilMaster]

Listen, the fact that Elbaf as a nation did nothing against Big Mom is already shameful enough, and the fact that they were willing to marry Loki, the prince of the nation, to one of Big Mom's daughters and thus provide all of the giants' military power to her makes it 100 times more shameful.

Big Mom needed Loki + All the giants + Her military power + Big Mom herself to take down the Yonko.

While the giants, without the help of Big Mom's military power and Big Mom herself, are already enough to take down LOKI.

 

[Law-sama]

This chapter just shows BM incompetence even more. What makes her think she can get the giants support through Loki when they don't even like him. Am I missing something?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I think Oda might have genuinely stolen some ideas from attack on titan concerning Elbaf

• Elbaf royalty has some legendary DF passed down through generations
• Elbaf is the strongest country, yet the royalty doesn’t actually do anything
• Loki killed the king, stole the DF, and now wants to end the world

I’m guessing the elbaf royalty had some long lasting principles of isolationism. Loki wanted to go against this and go to war with the WG. Harold didn’t let him, so Loki killed Harold.

 

[SkySanji]

This chapter just shows BM incompetence even more. What makes her think she can get the giants support through Loki when they don't even like him. Am I missing something?

The giants' hatred for Loki seems more recent, we see them cheering for him when he proposes to Lola in the flashback.

 

[Law-sama]

The giants' hatred for Loki seems more recent, we see them cheering for him when he proposes to Lola in the flashback.

Yeah but they said he dedicated his life to darkness. Him getting chained up was probably the last nail in the coffin for killing his father

 

[MUUGEN]

Reminder :
Giants around the world swore to the heavens to never allow her into Elbaf again and no to even pronounce her name loudly

They hate her badly but yet They never cared to fight her even once to avenge their village and the giants beaten by kid Linlin.
Even when the arrange marriage attempt failed, Loki didn't start a war against Linlin

Why did they even agree to the arranged marriage from someone they hate so badly?

Why is that?
Are they afraid to lose ?

For the.people who hate BM, they sure seem to Accept whatever plan she comes up with

@Ven437 @Buusatan94 @RayanOO

literally stated in manga they havent made any single moves in ove 100 years....

 

[Saint Wentorno]

They probably didnt hold a grudge against Linlin as they considered her a child with mental issues, despite destroying the village and mortally wounding one of the elder giants, I remember that one of them couldnt kill her as she was a kid.
They only resigned to exiling her, and never allowing her to step foot on Elbaph.

What she did to the orphanage kids and Mother Carmel is what should have pushed the Giants to take out Linlin, but I guess Streusen taking her away on their long pirate adventure made it difficult to track her down, and once she built Totto Land with her older kids, she was powerful and well established and very troublesome to attack, maybe the same justification that Lolda had given Whitebeard to not avenge Oden and attack Kaido.

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This chapter just shows BM incompetence even more. What makes her think she can get the giants support through Loki when they don't even like him. Am I missing something?

We don't know how long ago Loki and Lola were betrothed.
Remember that Lola ran away from the wedding some time before Thriller Bark.
This means that logically, King Haraldr's death and Loki becoming the Shame of Elbaph both happened within the last two years.
Unless Lolda introduced an inconsistency, idk.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

It's especially insane because Elbaf is clearly extremely prideful, the type to honor their warriors vehemently, and Big Mom killed their greatest warrior and is hated so much by them that they can't even say her name, yet they don't do shit about it, the only explanation is that they realize they'd get wiped out if they tried anything.

Exactly
These people are super prideful
Look at Road what he did to SHs?
He couldn't accept them leading Harujidin and so cause they're giants and can't be led by humans

So imagine now when they hate someone, they won't even dare to look at that person
Yet they didn't try once to fight BM

They literally almost married one of their princes to Big Mom for an alliance with her lmfao

Where is the “hatred” in that lmfao? Yonko fans hallucinating as always.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Big Mom hyped them up, everyone know them as mighty power of the world(the strongest nation).
Of course they are stronger than any Yonkou crew. I can even see Yonkou crews leaded by Kaido tried to take over Elbaf but failed hard.
Elbaf has probably their own powerlevel system:
A King who is the top tier
Top Commanders: who are above normal commanders, I mean Dorry and Brogy are already worth 1.8 and got hyped by Robin.
And these commanders are at least Dorry and Brogy lvl, if not even stronger which make them legit low top tiers.

And bunch of YC-Veteran lvl giants.
In total number they are far great than any other nation.
Big Mom know she wouldn´t have a chance if the attacked Elbaf, Kaido probably too.
I don´t even count Loki into the mighty power of Elbaf.

 

[Toonpiece]

It's especially insane because Elbaf is clearly extremely prideful, the type to honor their warriors vehemently, and Big Mom killed their greatest warrior and is hated so much by them that they can't even say her name, yet they don't do shit about it, the only explanation is that they realize they'd get wiped out if they tried anything.

Why didn't big mom just conquer elbaf? Why shanks don't get invited by royal family of elbaf and just sneak around ln some random unremarkable village? Isn't shanks a yonko and why he get disrespect like that? See? Elbaf is yonko level territory. Elbaf don't want to go to

war against big mom. Same reason why wg also don't want have a war against elbaf. Same reason big mom don't want smoke with elbaf too. Same reason why shanks won't attack bb territory. Elbaf should be the only wg rival and threat for several century well

before rise of rocks and yonko. You have to see elbaf as long term rival to wg. They have long life and know about sun god nika and world secret but don't get hunted down by wg for several century. It mean elbaf can held it own against wg thus proved their power.

 

[Blax Blah]

Because the only characters that are allowed to make the story move forward are Luffy, Blackbeard and some times Akainu.
Without them the world of One Piece is in some kind of permanent stalemate. Which lead to some kind of inconsistencies character wise.

So the giants never attacked Big Mom for the same reason Big Mom and Kaido did not saw each other for decades (even tho big mom knows exactly who King is).

Alrighty, however Crocodile was trying to rule Alabasta and find an ancient weapon, Fujitora was trying to dismantle the warlord system, the revolutionary army declared war on the celesteal dragons, Whitebeard and his crew and at least some of his fleets attacked Marineford, Whitebeard's crew fought BlackBeard, Big Mom was trying to ally with the giants and to get germa's science, and to ally with Kaido,

 

[Rivaille]

Alrighty, however Crocodile was trying to rule Alabasta and find an ancient weapon, Fujitora was trying to dismantle the warlord system, the revolutionary army declared war on the celesteal dragons, Whitebeard and his crew and at least some of his fleets attacked Marineford, Whitebeard's crew fought BlackBeard, Big Mom was trying to ally with the giants and to get germa's science, and to ally with Kaido,

And none of this thing have a real effect on the plot if Luffy or Blackbeard or Akainu are not involved.

For example Fujitora will to end the Warlord order worked only because the people save by Luffy push the idea at the reverie.

 

[The DevilMaster]

Because Kaidou would kill Loki the moment he touched WIGMON

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

He's a hypocrite.
Mihawk pissed in his territories for years, but Mr unstoppable war machine only sat around, drank and mobbed poor peasants.
Shanks has mostly jobber underlings, travels around and has most Intel about the one piece, yet Mr unstoppable war machine never dared to attack him or his territory.
Oldbeard only sat around and played grumpy gramps while holding the title strongest man in the world, yet Mr unstoppable war machine never dared to attack him until the bro was mentally distracted on his way to his own war.
Meme's HQs is a week of travel away. She kept making children and increased her manpower and also kept FMI as a keypoint under her reign (after Oldbeard), yet Mr unstoppable war machine never dared to either raid her shipments, take over FMI or anything else.

Bro only sat around, heavily PTSD'd from Oden. Yes he was strong. Really damn strong but he wasn't half as courageous as he claimed. All talk really.

Hanafuda's name didn't even drop in wano, indicating they had no relations at all. Kinda interesting, considering the guy was collecting ancient zoan. So they were rivals in terms of business but it needed someone else to take him out.

Big Moms crew still best crew in the verse

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The giants' hatred for Loki seems more recent, we see them cheering for him when he proposes to Lola in the flashback.

Elbaf> Big Mom
Elbaf=World Government

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Big Mom or Kaido wouldn't have taken Elbaf, I'll tell you that much lol.

Loki would split their cheeks open like a conquerors sky split

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WarLand is HUGE and doesn’t seem as unified as Wano-Kuni

 

[Blax Blah]

And none of this thing have a real effect on the plot if Luffy or Blackbeard or Akainu are not involved.

For example Fujitora will to end the Warlord order worked only because the people save by Luffy push the idea at the reverie.

It would have an effect on the plot, Crocodile would have at least destroyed part of Alabasta due to the issues he made, Kaido and Big Mom probably become pirate king together, and Fujitora may have found another way to abolish the warlord system, the seraphim's creation may have been enough, or maybe it would have been abolished when they grew into adults, I think Luffy BlackBeard and Akainu have a big effect on the plot, but they are not the plot,

 

[Rivaille]

It would have an effect on the plot, Crocodile would have at least destroyed part of Alabasta due to the issues he made, Kaido and Big Mom probably become pirate king together, and Fujitora may have found another way to abolish the warlord system, the seraphim's creation may have been enough, or maybe it would have been abolished when they grew into adults, I think Luffy BlackBeard and Akainu have a big effect on the plot, but they are not the plot,

-Alabasta being destroyed by Crocodile does not affect the world of One piece, it only affect the people of Alabasta (the same way Kaido destroying Wano did not affect the world). Luffy beating a warlord affect the world balance thus affect the world.
-Big Mom came to Wano because she was chasing after Luffy. The alliance came to be only because Luffy decide to raid WCI. If not, Big Mom and Kaido would be in their respective island without meeting each other.
-There was no other ways to abolish the system if the kings at the reverie did not vote to destroyed it. The warlord system was part of the trifecta that help the world balance. The WG was against it destruction and Akainu also. Without Luffy beating Crocodile and Doflamingo, the Warlord system would still be in place.
-MF happened because BB captured Ace
-Shanks met WB and the Gorosei because of BB
-Luffy and BB raiding ID is what make Buggy and Crocodile to link up => leading to the creation of Cross Guild
-Luffy beating Kaido (and the defeat of Big Mom by one of his direct allies) lead to Shanks making a move for the one piece and put Buggy in an emperor seat because the Warlord system abolition (which happened thanks to Luffy action) allows Crocodile to recruit Mihawk
-Akainu killed Ace which lead to the story to know a 1 month hiatus and the main characters to train for 2 years
-BB killing WB lead to the end of an era.
Etc…