You might be right about Spanish explorers, thats why I removed one of them and only added one to my list.
Alexander definitely has an argument to be no.1, my point is Timur came from literally nothing meanwhile Alexander started after inherited a kingdom.
Also another comparison would be Alexander tried to conquer India but failed because his men refused go there and mutinied before they could go. Meanwhile Timur conquered India.
"Truth is You Punjabi Muslims never ruled Punjab even in Sikh Empire, where tiny Sikhs ruled over hordes of Punjabi Musuluman"
Literally,
Adina Beg Arain
Sikhs are Panjabi lol
Panjabi identity was formed around the advent of Islam in the subcontinent. Panjabi language is a Muslim identity first and foremost. The Panjabi language formed during the dominant Muslim period. Panjabis are the most influential on the religion of Sikhi. Sikhi is inspired by Muslim Panjabi Sufism.
Mirza Sahiban
Heer Ranjha
All Panjabi Muslim texts are tenants of ancient Panjabiyat
your argument is baseless and ya'll got conquered by the Chola Dynasty of South India
Panjabis are the majority of Pakistan and rule Pakistan. Panjabi music rules Bollywood. Panjabi music is the most popular music form coming from South Asia as well as Panjabi dance. 1. Langah Sultanate of Multan (1450s–1526)
The Langah Sultanate, led by the Langah dynasty, was a Punjabi Muslim kingdom that ruled over Multan and surrounding areas.
Malik Rulers and Tribal Leadership in Western Punjab (Medieval Period)
Throughout medieval times, western Punjab saw independent Muslim tribal leaders and chieftains, especially among the Awans, Tiwanas, and Gakkhars.
During the rise of the Sikh Empire under Maharaja Ranjit Singh, Punjabi Muslims in some regions of western Punjab maintained semi-autonomous control, particularly in areas such as Multan and southern Punjab. Muslim leaders, including prominent families and local rulers, continued to exercise considerable authority over their communities, albeit under Sikh suzerainty.
4. The Role of Punjabi Muslims in Post-Mughal and Sikh Decline
After the decline of the Mughal Empire and amidst weakening Sikh rule, some Muslim tribal regions, particularly in Potohar and southern Punjab, functioned with local autonomy. Leaders in these areas had their own systems of governance and were able to rule without interference due to the power vacuum left by the declining empires.
5. Post-Partition Era (1947–Present)
The most significant instance of Punjabi Muslims ruling themselves came after the Partition of British India in 1947. The majority of Punjab became part of Pakistan, where Punjabi Muslims have governed their province as part of a Muslim-majority nation. Pakistani Punjab has since been administered predominantly by Punjabi Muslim leaders, who hold key political and administrative power.
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1. Dulla Bhatti (16th Century)
Strength: Known as the "Robin Hood of Punjab," Dulla Bhatti was a folk hero and symbol of Punjabi resistance against Mughal rule. A strong and skilled warrior, he led a rebellion against Emperor Akbar’s rule to protect the rights of local Punjabis and is remembered for his courage, strength, and defiance. He is also celebrated in Punjabi folklore, especially during the festival of Lohri.
2. Maharaja Gulab Singh Pathan of Gakkhars (1500s)
Strength: Gulab Singh Pathan was the chief of the Gakkhar tribe, a powerful Muslim warrior clan in Punjab. He held a reputation for physical strength, leadership, and resistance against the Mughals and later rulers who attempted to dominate his territory. His strength in battle and influence over his tribe made him a significant figure in the region's history.
3. Hari Singh Nalwa (19th Century)
Strength: Though Sikh, Nalwa’s origins were in the Punjabi Muslim Pathan tribes, particularly the Khattaks, on his maternal side. Known for his unmatched physical strength and military skill, Nalwa commanded Maharaja Ranjit Singh's armies, earning a reputation as one of the fiercest warriors of his time. He led campaigns against Afghans and Pashtuns and established Sikh control over the northwest frontier.
4. Nawab Muzaffar Khan of Multan (18th-19th Century)
Strength: As the last independent ruler of Multan before it fell to the Sikh Empire, Nawab Muzaffar Khan was a warrior and a strong administrator. He put up a valiant fight against Maharaja Ranjit Singh’s forces and resisted the Sikh annexation until he died in the battle of Multan Fort, demonstrating resilience, military strength, and tenacity.
5. Sultan Haider Ali of the Langah Dynasty (15th-16th Century)
Strength: A ruler of the Langah Sultanate in Multan, Sultan Haider Ali represented one of the few indigenous Muslim dynasties in Punjab. Known for his physical and military strength, he defended his realm against external threats and maintained an independent rule in Punjab.
Sikhs owed their rise in 18th century to Adina Beg Arain, a Punjabi Muslim noble in the service of Mughals. The latter was a saboteur and believed in “chaos is a ladder”. He used Sikh marauders to destroy the law and orderHe defeated the Afghans after rising to power and was recognised as the Nawab of Punjab by Mughal emperor Alamgir II, who also gave him title of Jang Bahadur.[1]
The Punjabi language, as we know it today, started to take shape around the 7th century AD as an Apabhramsha, a form of Prakrit
By the 10th century, it had become more stable and distinct
So, while the roots of Punjabi can be traced back earlier, it wasn't fully developed as a distinct language by 800 AD.
Panjabi Muslims have made more contributions as there are more Punjabi Muslims
With a population of over 112 million, Punjabi Muslims are the third-largest predominantly Islam-adhering Muslim ethnicity in the world, after Arabs and Bengalis1. The majority of Punjabi Muslims are adherents of Sunni Islam, while a minority adhere to Shia Islam
"Truth is You Punjabi Muslims never ruled Punjab even in Sikh Empire, where tiny Sikhs ruled over hordes of Punjabi Musuluman"
Literally,
Adina Beg Arain
Sikhs are Panjabi lol
Panjabi identity was formed around the advent of Islam in the subcontinent. Panjabi language is a Muslim identity first and foremost. The Panjabi language formed during the dominant Muslim period. Panjabis are the most influential on the religion of Sikhi. Sikhi is inspired by Muslim Panjabi Sufism.
Mirza Sahiban
Heer Ranjha
All Panjabi Muslim texts are tenants of ancient Panjabiyat
your argument is baseless and ya'll got conquered by the Chola Dynasty of South India
Panjabis are the majority of Pakistan and rule Pakistan. Panjabi music rules Bollywood. Panjabi music is the most popular music form coming from South Asia as well as Panjabi dance. 1. Langah Sultanate of Multan (1450s–1526)
The Langah Sultanate, led by the Langah dynasty, was a Punjabi Muslim kingdom that ruled over Multan and surrounding areas.
Malik Rulers and Tribal Leadership in Western Punjab (Medieval Period)
Throughout medieval times, western Punjab saw independent Muslim tribal leaders and chieftains, especially among the Awans, Tiwanas, and Gakkhars.
During the rise of the Sikh Empire under Maharaja Ranjit Singh, Punjabi Muslims in some regions of western Punjab maintained semi-autonomous control, particularly in areas such as Multan and southern Punjab. Muslim leaders, including prominent families and local rulers, continued to exercise considerable authority over their communities, albeit under Sikh suzerainty.
4. The Role of Punjabi Muslims in Post-Mughal and Sikh Decline
After the decline of the Mughal Empire and amidst weakening Sikh rule, some Muslim tribal regions, particularly in Potohar and southern Punjab, functioned with local autonomy. Leaders in these areas had their own systems of governance and were able to rule without interference due to the power vacuum left by the declining empires.
5. Post-Partition Era (1947–Present)
The most significant instance of Punjabi Muslims ruling themselves came after the Partition of British India in 1947. The majority of Punjab became part of Pakistan, where Punjabi Muslims have governed their province as part of a Muslim-majority nation. Pakistani Punjab has since been administered predominantly by Punjabi Muslim leaders, who hold key political and administrative power.
Now Cope
Post automatically merged:
1. Dulla Bhatti (16th Century)
Strength: Known as the "Robin Hood of Punjab," Dulla Bhatti was a folk hero and symbol of Punjabi resistance against Mughal rule. A strong and skilled warrior, he led a rebellion against Emperor Akbar’s rule to protect the rights of local Punjabis and is remembered for his courage, strength, and defiance. He is also celebrated in Punjabi folklore, especially during the festival of Lohri.
2. Maharaja Gulab Singh Pathan of Gakkhars (1500s)
Strength: Gulab Singh Pathan was the chief of the Gakkhar tribe, a powerful Muslim warrior clan in Punjab. He held a reputation for physical strength, leadership, and resistance against the Mughals and later rulers who attempted to dominate his territory. His strength in battle and influence over his tribe made him a significant figure in the region's history.
3. Hari Singh Nalwa (19th Century)
Strength: Though Sikh, Nalwa’s origins were in the Punjabi Muslim Pathan tribes, particularly the Khattaks, on his maternal side. Known for his unmatched physical strength and military skill, Nalwa commanded Maharaja Ranjit Singh's armies, earning a reputation as one of the fiercest warriors of his time. He led campaigns against Afghans and Pashtuns and established Sikh control over the northwest frontier.
4. Nawab Muzaffar Khan of Multan (18th-19th Century)
Strength: As the last independent ruler of Multan before it fell to the Sikh Empire, Nawab Muzaffar Khan was a warrior and a strong administrator. He put up a valiant fight against Maharaja Ranjit Singh’s forces and resisted the Sikh annexation until he died in the battle of Multan Fort, demonstrating resilience, military strength, and tenacity.
5. Sultan Haider Ali of the Langah Dynasty (15th-16th Century)
Strength: A ruler of the Langah Sultanate in Multan, Sultan Haider Ali represented one of the few indigenous Muslim dynasties in Punjab. Known for his physical and military strength, he defended his realm against external threats and maintained an independent rule in Punjab.
Sikhs owed their rise in 18th century to Adina Beg Arain, a Punjabi Muslim noble in the service of Mughals. The latter was a saboteur and believed in “chaos is a ladder”. He used Sikh marauders to destroy the law and orderHe defeated the Afghans after rising to power and was recognised as the Nawab of Punjab by Mughal emperor Alamgir II, who also gave him title of Jang Bahadur.[1]
The Punjabi language, as we know it today, started to take shape around the 7th century AD as an Apabhramsha, a form of Prakrit
By the 10th century, it had become more stable and distinct
So, while the roots of Punjabi can be traced back earlier, it wasn't fully developed as a distinct language by 800 AD.
Panjabi Muslims have made more contributions as there are more Punjabi Muslims
With a population of over 112 million, Punjabi Muslims are the third-largest predominantly Islam-adhering Muslim ethnicity in the world, after Arabs and Bengalis1. The majority of Punjabi Muslims are adherents of Sunni Islam, while a minority adhere to Shia Islam
Panjabi Muslims have made more contributions as there are more Punjabi Muslims
With a population of over 112 million, Punjabi Muslims are the third-largest predominantly Islam-adhering Muslim ethnicity in the world, after Arabs and Bengalis1
First is Arabs - 400 million+- , who's language is the lingua franca
Second is Turks, 180 million+-, who created the most Muslim dynasties
Third is Bengalis , who's region historically is biggest trade and economic hub and was by far the richest region of Subcontinent and contributed greatly to first industrial revolution and played a great role in textiles industry ( which is true till today)
You might be right about Spanish explorers, thats why I removed one of them and only added one to my list.
Alexander definitely has an argument to be no.1, my point is Timur came from literally nothing meanwhile Alexander started after inherited a kingdom.
Also another comparison would be Alexander tried to conquer India but failed because his men refused go there and mutinied before they could go. Meanwhile Timur conquered India.
First is Arabs - 400 million+- , who's language is the lingua franca
Second is Turks, 180 million+-, who created the most Muslim dynasties
Third is Bengalis , who's region historically is biggest trade and economic hub and was by far the richest region of Subcontinent and contributed greatly to first industrial revolution and played a great role in textiles industry ( which is true till today)
“Handed by Brits”
Uuuh no
Have you heard of the partition? Do you know how many millions died trying to come into Pakistan and India or leave it especially in the Bengal and Panjab region?
Yes. Turks are second.
By Turks It's more than just Turkey, including Central Asia, parts of Iran, Afghanistan, Russia, China and as well the immigrants all over the West
Handed by Brits”
Uuuh no
Have you heard of the partition? Do you know how many millions died trying to come into Pakistan and India or leave it especially in the Bengal and Panjab region?
Yes. Turks are second.
By Turks It's more than just Turkey, including Central Asia, parts of Iran, Afghanistan, Russia, China and as well the immigrants all over the West
Migration was just mostly voluntary movement of People.
British handed over Pakistan to you.
If they didn't give you options, you'll still ruled like Kashmiri Brahmins by Nehru or some Gujarati like Modi
They didn't lmao
They just set up trading spots in exchange for giving Local rulers protection
That's like saying USA conquered British and Poland because they have military bases there.
Pink is area of influence
Blue is their actual territory
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