Speculations Post Egghead Luffy doesn’t deserve a 4 billion berry bounty

#61
It hasn't felt like Luffy has deserved anything in a long time, since at least Whole Cake Island where his victory didn't feel earned or believable at all.
The amount of plot armor and exterior help that Luffy relies on has only increased with time, even more post-timeskip, and the fact that he doesn't have any competence other than fighting whereas Roger at least had some scholary attitude and interest in the Void Century doesn't help.
 
#62
It hasn't felt like Luffy has deserved anything in a long time, since at least Whole Cake Island where his victory didn't feel earned or believable at all.
The amount of plot armor and exterior help that Luffy relies on has only increased with time, even more post-timeskip, and the fact that he doesn't have any competence other than fighting whereas Roger at least had some scholary attitude and interest in the Void Century doesn't help.
Tbf it doesn’t matter if goofy is interested bc it is connected to the one piece and he has robin so that he will found out later anyway
 
#67
It hasn't felt like Luffy has deserved anything in a long time, since at least Whole Cake Island where his victory didn't feel earned or believable at all.
The amount of plot armor and exterior help that Luffy relies on has only increased with time, even more post-timeskip, and the fact that he doesn't have any competence other than fighting whereas Roger at least had some scholary attitude and interest in the Void Century doesn't help.
Luffy only has so much plot armor because Oda fuck him over the most .
Name one other character in series that every time they get power up it has a draw back .
Hell in egghead Oda did not even let him use the haki shit he did vs Kaido and was just mostly G5 spam .
To make his fights look harder he has lose over and over and that has been going on for 1000 chapters no matter how strong he gets .
Hell bounties not base on power alone and you can bet he still will have smaller bounty even with everything they blame on him and they know about him and it make no damn sense.
 
#69
After Wano, he should be +4M, so even with his poor performance in Egghead, he's just getting the rest he deserves after what he did in Wano, unless you think that he is in the same tier as Kid/Law.
I think a big part of the 3 billion berry bounty was to highlight that Luffy’s accomplishment was in fact comparable to Kid and Law’s.

Kid and Law 2v1ed BM with bombs

Luffy 1v1ed Kaido… with help from the scabbards, the supernova, and Yamato all while Kaido was tugging Onigashima.

Luffy is of course stronger than his rivals, hence he is a yonko. But he’s clearly not as strong as Teach or Shanks when he’s still going extreme diff with Kizaru.
 
#72
Extreme diff would mean they’re practically equals.

It’s more of high diff
Law and Goofy have been portrayed as true rivals and of the same D clan. Both generated the holes to send down the Yonko and both gave their top-tier opponents a high-diff at most but ultimately unable to win. And BB is arguably above Kizaru

I see no reason to put Goofy above given he couldn’t even take out Lunarians in G4 despite wielding ACoC/ACoA
 
#73
Law and Goofy have been portrayed as true rivals and of the same D clan. Both generated the holes to send down the Yonko and both gave their top-tier opponents a high-diff at most but ultimately unable to win. And BB is arguably above Kizaru

I see no reason to put Goofy above given he couldn’t even take out Lunarians in G4 despite wielding ACoC/ACoA
Teach vs Law being a high diff is impossible

Full strength teach is an island buster
 
#75
We’ve already seen what Luffy is capable of against Kaido and that performance & result is well deserving of 4bil bounty. If anything it’s surprising the he got a bounty so low. In hindsight however, Oda prolly did so with the events on Egghead in mind.

A non consequential fluff fight against Kizaru that was more akin to cat & mouse more than anything else and was never really going to bear any tangible result changes nothing imo. Kizaru is an admiral so he’s more than a worthy opponent for Luffy (he’s a bloody top tier & one of the WG’s strongest fighters for fuck sakes) notion that he isn’t a match for current Luffy was always a rubbish take but takes like Kizaru being just as durable as Kaido or stronger than Kaido coz of how he took a star gun are just as ridiculous.

Oda’s not thinking about PL and how PL scalers perceive shit when he writes this kinda crap. Chances are that he just wanted to draw Kizaru dizzy with stars around his head coz he thought it’d be funny. Moreover stargun is also a convenient technique to justify putting Kizaru down temporarily. We already know the result of that fight. Kizaru went down to star gun and Luffy also conveniently shriveled up from hunger resulting in a draw and the reason is simple Oda never really intended to write a proper outcome for that fight. Was just filler/fluff with no substance. So basing either Luffy or Kizaru’s PLs off this is a waste of time imo.

Just s disclaimer, I am neither a Luffy fan boy or a Kizaru or admiral downplayer just saying you don’t always have to look at every single ting through PL lenses coz let’s be honest Oda isn’t constantly thinking about shit like that.
 
#79
Luffy bounty should've been already 5B after defeating Kaido and having Nika Fruit.

Also, they should've sent one of the Gorosei summoning 4 while Luffy was fighting Kaido when they figured he has the Nika fruit.

But Gorosei are dumb.

:kayneshrug:
 
#80
Only 30% of Nika's reward is due to her power. Everything else is due to other circumstances.

And to think that there are still people who don't know about this story xd

+ Captain
+ D
+ Nika Nika
+ Dragon son
This dude who didn't even know the gender of the character and mocks others that they don't know about the story...infact, ironically this dude belongs to the group who don't know about this story..

 
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